Muslim Extremists protest in Britian

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Burn down your own house before somebody else does? What if there was no intention of burning your house down? Who still has a house in the end?

Who says you have to burn down your own house? That would not make a heck of a lot of sense to me.
 

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Why go after the Jews? They aren't attempting a takeover of Britain. The Islamists who are attempting to turn Britain into a Sharia state are the ones who are the problem.

I have no beef with the EDL, WDL and SDL heroes.

My issue is with the scum of the UAF, the left wing fascists like those who attacked Farage in Edinburgh the other day who verbally abuse and intimidate those who disagree with their bigoted, anti-white views.

It's no suprise that at almost every EDL rally the the vast majority of those who are arrested are the UAF, who turn a peaceful EDL march into a riot.

Those Muslims that state their is no law etc to adhere to are not following the Koran. Mohammed specifically states that Muslims are to adhere to the laws of the country they reside in and when they cannot. It is quite clear.

An Europeans are and have treated Muslims and others as below their class.

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Muslims are generally obliged to abide by the laws of the land and the country they live in, whether it is a Islamic state (al-khilafa), Muslim countries, or non-Muslim countries such as those in the west, as long as they are not ordered to practice something that is against Shariah. If they are forced by the law to commit a sin, then in such a case, it will not just be unnecessary to abide by the law, rather impermissible.

Some Muslims are under the impression that it is permissible to violate the laws of countries that are not an Islamic state (al-Khilafa), which is totally incorrect. Muslims must adhere to the laws of any country they live in, whether in the west or the east, as long as the law is not in contradiction with one’s religion.

Sayyiduna Abd Allah ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “It is necessary upon a Muslim to listen to and obey the ruler, as long as one is not ordered to carry out a sin. If he is commanded to commit a sin, then there is no adherence and obedience.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 2796 & Sunan Tirmidhi)

The above Hadith is general, in that it does not distinguish between Muslim and non-Muslim lands, although the understanding of the scholars is that it generally applies to Muslim lands.
 

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Anyway, all I can see coming of this is increased tension between Muslims and the rest, which will no doubt end up in violence, and the Muslims will moan and groan about bigotry and being oppressed, which will likely bring on more and more police action, and on and on it goes. Shows stupidity a large lack of foresight on the Muslim extremist end as I can see innocent people of both factions getting hurt.
 

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Most times, moving the darned place costs more than just burning it down so the guy who evicted you can't make any more than scrap value from it....

Worst extremist of all: Nasty drunk neighbour ;-)

Ahhh... I got ya. A good topic but probably for another thread. I did get a kick out of people stripping their houses clean of copper and any improvements before the eviction or final foreclosure. I knew a woman who sells houses and she said many, many foreclosures are becoming so. It is still their house and they are losing it so there is no law that says they can't gut their house of any value before the banks take it.
 

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Burn down your own house before somebody else does? What if there was no intention of burning your house down? Who still has a house in the end?
no but in order to save your house you do burn...you create a back burn and when the fire reaches your house it goes around it instead of through it so yes, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

Yep. It's called freedom of speech.

I think they're reprehensible. But I'm not in the business of deciding what speech is "worthy" and what isn't. I leave that to the self-righteous.
agreed and I encourage their freedom of speech as it clearly illustrates exactly what they think but to compare this to what happened to the Jews is ludicrous... you say you don't think this will amount to anything on the part of the Muslims and then say that people expressing concern are going to create another Jewish Holocaust which is frankly ridiculous. But I then say to you perhaps we are the next victims, not the Muslims.

Maybe we should speak up before things get out of proportion.


And they're free to speak as they will, too. And I'm free to point them out as what they are.
Oh, I hope you can appreciate the double standard you are using... :smile:
 

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no but in order to save your house you do burn...you create a back burn and when the fire reaches your house it goes around it instead of through it so yes, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.


agreed and I encourage their freedom of speech as it clearly illustrates exactly what they think but to compare this to what happened to the Jews is ludicrous... you say you don't think this will amount to anything on the part of the Muslims and then say that people expressing concern are going to create another Jewish Holocaust which is frankly ridiculous. But I then say to you perhaps we are the next victims, not the Muslims.

Maybe we should speak up before things get out of proportion.


Oh, I hope you can appreciate the double standard you are using... :smile:

What? There was never a "Jewish Holocaust" in Britain. What are you talking about?