How about them Canucks!

talloola

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Am glad to see the Islanders beat Pittsburg. Like you keep saying, there is very little difference in the talent and capability of teams today. With the exception of the Canucks, I generally root for the underdog. In the case of the Wild I don't think it would do much good. -:)

Yeah, I think the wild need to get much wilder to win this series, they have met a very tough
competitor.
 

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I think the Sedins are saving themselves for their world hockey team. They can probably be in Stockholm by Friday.
 

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Canucks better get Gillis out of there this summer, before he signs some other dumb contract or leaves the team with no prospects at all.
 

#juan

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Canucks better get Gillis out of there this summer, before he signs some other dumb contract or leaves the team with no prospects at all.

And yet another "almost a contender" Canucks team is toast. Not to worry though, the Canucks just signed a couple more
Swedes nobody has heard of. I think Vancouver has little chance of winning the next two games to stay in contention and then winning the next two games to win the series.........What are the odds????
 

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Canucks better get Gillis out of there this summer, before he signs some other dumb contract or leaves the team with no prospects at all.

I would think if they are knocked out soon, they all will be gone, management and coaches. I saw an interview
with vineault yesterday, and for the first time, I noticed he was quite tense and not able to easily
answer the questions.

but after saying that, the last game would have been over if hanson's empty net try had of gone in, and
the whole mood would have been different, there isn't much difference between these teams, and there
is no way anyone should have 'expected' canucks to automatically win the series.
san jose did a good job of trading at the trade deadline, made their team much faster, as they were a bit
long in the tooth and a bit slow', now they are not.

Our first game was the dissapointment for me, and kesler had the flu, I just wonder when canucks will
ever have 'him' healthy for a whole season, seems it is always something with him.
He was great in the second game.

And yet another "almost a contender" Canucks team is toast. Not to worry though, the Canucks just signed a couple more
Swedes nobody has heard of. I think Vancouver has little chance of winning the next two games to stay in contention and then winning the next two games to win the series.........What are the odds????

well, knowing that san jose only lost 4 home games all season, certainly makes the outcome look bleak.

I think the Sedins are saving themselves for their world hockey team. They can probably be in Stockholm by Friday.

The sedin's are beyond their peak, that was 2 years ago, they aren't going to dazzle anyone any more,
and its not their fault, that is just the life of any athlete, their best is behind them.

The team has to be managed better next year, gillis is OK, but he is only 50/50 with the deals he has
made, some good, some not good at all.

I would like to see a change in management and coaches,(unless of course they go on to win the cup,
this year, lol)
 

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And yet another "almost a contender" Canucks team is toast. Not to worry though, the Canucks just signed a couple more
Swedes nobody has heard of. I think Vancouver has little chance of winning the next two games to stay in contention and then winning the next two games to win the series.........What are the odds????

#Juan- There is an old saying coined by Yogi Berra, works for baseball, should work for hockey............"It ain't over till it's over"- :) They still have a score to settle with Chicago. Wouldn't that be lovely? -:)
 

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I would think if they are knocked out soon, they all will be gone, management and coaches. I saw an interview
with vineault yesterday, and for the first time, I noticed he was quite tense and not able to easily
answer the questions.

but after saying that, the last game would have been over if hanson's empty net try had of gone in, and
the whole mood would have been different, there isn't much difference between these teams, and there
is no way anyone should have 'expected' canucks to automatically win the series.
san jose did a good job of trading at the trade deadline, made their team much faster, as they were a bit
long in the tooth and a bit slow', now they are not.

Our first game was the dissapointment for me, and kesler had the flu, I just wonder when canucks will
ever have 'him' healthy for a whole season, seems it is always something with him.
He was great in the second game.



well, knowing that san jose only lost 4 home games all season, certainly makes the outcome look bleak.



The sedin's are beyond their peak, that was 2 years ago, they aren't going to dazzle anyone any more,
and its not their fault, that is just the life of any athlete, their best is behind them.

The team has to be managed better next year, gillis is OK, but he is only 50/50 with the deals he has
made, some good, some not good at all.

I would like to see a change in management and coaches,(unless of course they go on to win the cup,
this year, lol)

Yes, winning the cup would bring a lot of forgiveness.
Who knows? I know I expected a lot more from this team...maybe more than I should have.
 

talloola

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Yes, winning the cup would bring a lot of forgiveness.
Who knows? I know I expected a lot more from this team...maybe more than I should have.

you know juan, its a bounce here or a bounce there, some luck or not, kesler 'not' having the flu
in the first game, and canucks could be up two to none. Its not really all that different,
it is a fine line.

The overtime in the second game could have been anyone's, but the edler boo boo, coughed up the puck,
and thats all she wrote.

Luongo has been very good, kept them in both games early on, and their goalie has been very good too.

Canucks definitely had a poor first period in the first game, other than that period, its a toss-up,
and if san jose lost this series, their coaches would be fired too, the records for each team are so similar, and actually canucks have the run to the finals two years ago, which san jose does not
have, so that gives canucks the nod, but if you know the players on 'each' team, and follow them
along thru the season, very similar to canucks, and expectations very similar.

I definitely give the nod to san jose 'now', after the two games they won, as they are home now, big
home ice advantage, so if canucks can pull off two wins in their barn, I will eat my shirt.

Having home ice for canucks, doesn't seem to be an advantage at all, just the opposite, they are
building a label for themselves of home ice 'losses' in playoffs.
 

Kreskin

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They are certainly being out-coached. The present regime is stale. San Jose was very smart to get Larry Robinson as an assistant. He's the reason the Canucks barely get a scoring chance.

I honestly can't watch much of the Canucks anymore. Anytime I do I see the likes of Mason Raymond turn a promising situation into some goofy mistake .. trips over the blue line. Their entire offense plan consists of chipping in it at the red line. Vigneault just shuffles the deck of the Titanic every couple of periods. When they do score a goal the rarity ranks up there with witnessing a comet.
 

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i'm not going to the sarcasm game here, just a bit of realistic opinion post game.

I mentioned how san jose was so good on home ice, well, they are and they were tonight.

Losing the first two games was not a wise thing to do for that very reason.

Game was OK for two periods, but canucks ability to score was difficult, and so it was for
san jose.

that power play goal by san jose right at the end of the penalty, right at the beginning of the third
period, was a big dissapointment, and it immediately frazzled the canucks, and it also opened the
flood gates.
The team lost their composure, 'and that is a weakness we have seen before', can't do that.

The top line will no longer be the top line once this season is over. But having said that, I am very
dissapointed in higgins, roy, raymond, hanson, who are the support players, and are expected to pop in
a goal here and there, there has been nothing from these players in these games, and that surprised me,
as I thought they would make the team deep through the forward lines, and they didn't.

fourth line played fine, lots of energy, did their job, and the defense was good too, even edler, who
has been shaky in first two games, played fine tonight.

Frankie Corrado is a breath of fresh air, what a good young player, and next year when he is playing,
and tanev is back, those are two top end young players to shore up the defense.

so, even though canucks could win the next, and even the one after that, they aren't going to win this
series, and after this is all over, we will see some changes.

the team needs a new approach from management re: drafting, trading etc., and some players
who have been seen as top end players on the canucks need to be given a second
look as a possibility of moving.

These coaches have had a very good run, a good job for the most part, but not the success that was hoped for, the team has been a high end team for
some time now, but certain players are getting older, and the cup hasn't been won, so I do think they
will give new people a chance to do it, and that is fair, after all this time, it is time to move
forward, that is life.
I do think that gillis also should move on, and let a new g.m. put his touch on this team and see
how he can do, new blood, a new start, it can be fresh and energy building for everyone.

These guys have taken the team through two presidents' cup victories, and a good run for the cup, and
although the cup wasn't won, doesn't matter to me, it is the process, the level of play, and performance
in the playoffs, which was not what it should have been, cup or no cup.
 
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talloola

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They are definitely making it tough for themselves, but hey it ain't over yet!

won't be long jlm, maybe next game or the one after, canucks might win one or two. San Jose are flying high right now, have the next
game at home 'to win the series', there is nothing stopping them, and actually, good for them, more
power to them, if they are better they deserve to win.
 

Kreskin

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As one of the Sharks said before game one, he had never seen a coach pay so much attention to detail like Robinson.

You can see it in their play. They are giving up next to nothing for scoring chances.
 

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won't be long jlm, maybe next game or the one after, canucks might win one or two. San Jose are flying high right now, have the next
game at home 'to win the series', there is nothing stopping them, and actually, good for them, more
power to them, if they are better they deserve to win.

The odds are you are right, BUT I say if San Jose can win 3 in a row the Canucks can win three in a row, then it's anyone's series. The next opponent will likely be easier. "Go Canucks go".

P.S. They just have to win one game at a time.
 

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won't be long jlm, maybe next game or the one after, canucks might win one or two. San Jose are flying high right now, have the next
game at home 'to win the series', there is nothing stopping them, and actually, good for them, more
power to them, if they are better they deserve to win.

No, it won't be long now. The Sharks do so many things better than the Canucks, including their team speed and their mastery
of the short, accurate pass, but mostly, they work harder.
 

talloola

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The odds are you are right, BUT I say if San Jose can win 3 in a row the Canucks can win three in a row, then it's anyone's series. The next opponent will likely be easier. "Go Canucks go".

P.S. They just have to win one game at a time.

yeah, if both teams were playing close and even I would agree, now its a task I wouldn't ever expect them
to achieve, but maybe one or two games, we'll see. Ask yourself this, will the sharks 'lose' four in
a row, the way they are playing, someone would have to put something in their gatorade, me thinks.
They are getting positive play from their top line right through the team, so if one line faulters
the other three are still delivering, not so with the canucks, the whole team is fractured right now,
and the twins cannot play through the sharks deep defensive play.

As one of the Sharks said before game one, he had never seen a coach pay so much attention to detail like Robinson.

You can see it in their play. They are giving up next to nothing for scoring chances.

robinson is doing what he loves to do, and he is great with the young players, always positive and happy,
and as he is in charge of defense, he has taught them well.
When he coached the devils, nerves got to him, he felt the pressure 'too' much and decided to walk
away, but this is perfect for him, let the head coach sweat and fume, while he can teach, teach teach,
and he does it well.
 

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you know juan, its a bounce here or a bounce there, some luck or not, kesler 'not' having the flu
in the first game, and canucks could be up two to none. Its not really all that different,
it is a fine line.

The overtime in the second game could have been anyone's, but the edler boo boo, coughed up the puck,
and thats all she wrote.

Luongo has been very good, kept them in both games early on, and their goalie has been very good too.

Canucks definitely had a poor first period in the first game, other than that period, its a toss-up,
and if san jose lost this series, their coaches would be fired too, the records for each team are so similar, and actually canucks have the run to the finals two years ago, which san jose does not
have, so that gives canucks the nod, but if you know the players on 'each' team, and follow them
along thru the season, very similar to canucks, and expectations very similar.

I definitely give the nod to san jose 'now', after the two games they won, as they are home now, big
home ice advantage, so if canucks can pull off two wins in their barn, I will eat my shirt.

Having home ice for canucks, doesn't seem to be an advantage at all, just the opposite, they are
building a label for themselves of home ice 'losses' in playoffs.

San Jose is starting to look like a steam roller. The Canucks have been half way respectable for most of this
half year. Vancouver's "home ice advantage" disappeared in a flash and we are now cringing at that terrible
word: SWEPT!! It will take a miracle to bring the Canucks back from three games down.....possible but
not a good bet...:roll:
 

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San Jose is starting to look like a steam roller. The Canucks have been half way respectable for most of this
half year. Vancouver's "home ice advantage" disappeared in a flash and we are now cringing at that terrible
word: SWEPT!! It will take a miracle to bring the Canucks back from three games down.....possible but
not a good bet...:roll:

They came back from it once in '94 against Calgary and damn near did the same thing against the Rangers, mind you different team, different coach, different arenas!
 

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Canucks should've waved the towels ala Neilson after the Bieksa call. Reffing is pathetic.