Canadians naive about banks, money....

china

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Then I think you should put on a seminar for the bumblers like Harper and Obama. -:)
Here you go again JLM ....blaming someone else ...that must be the Canadian way .
......seminars????.........how about some action not words .It seems that the whole country is based on words , what we have done and what we will do ...................what are we doing now ?.... complaining .
 

darkbeaver

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As we can read we may have to consider that Canadians are also ignorant about governments. This coupled with simplistic lunatic ideas about armed and thieving international bankers means a bleak hard future for Canada ultimately leading to hostile amalgamation with feudal NWO trade sectors specializing in wholesale body parts and mindless slaves to fill uniforms.
Government stupidity is directly proportional to electorate stupidity. We are doomed.
 

Cliffy

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Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever

The Illuminati were amateurs. The second huge financial scandal of the year reveals the real international conspiracy: There's no price the big banks can't fix




By Matt Taibbi
April 25, 2013 1:00 PM ET

Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything.
 

china

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Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever

The Illuminati were amateurs. The second huge financial scandal of the year reveals the real international conspiracy: There's no price the big banks can't fix




By Matt Taibbi
April 25, 2013 1:00 PM ET

Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything.
In Canada people don't like to face the facts ....and that's a pity . ( perhaps it's only the people in the forum and don't like to face the facts ).
 

Jonny_C

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"The Bank is made up of a Governor, Deputy Governor and twelve directors. The directors are chosen by the Minister of Finance with the approval of the Governor in Council and the twelve directors are responsible for the appointment of a Governor and Deputy Governor with the approval of the Governor in Council."

I think it's pretty clear who runs the show.
 

Zipperfish

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Gotta stay away from those paranoid conspiracy theory sites, China. I found your post #6 word for word at four other sites--you really should credit your sources too--none of which impressed me as having a good grip on reality. Even on a casual read, without doing any research, I noted half a dozen major errors of fact and misapprehensions in it, which pretty much destroys its credibility for me. The author clearly, for instance, has no idea what the phrase "Her Majesty in right of Canada" means in legal terms, does not understand that the Queen is Canada's head of state, not a foreign monarch, and has no concept of the historical devolution of executive and legislative power from the Crown to Parliament in a constitutional monarchy. He's an ignorant loon tilting at straw men.

I'm not much of a conspiracy theory kind of guy myself, but I do get the overwhelming feeling that international banks, international banking organizations and international invenetsment banks have, in cahoots with billionaires and politicians, gamed the system to suit themselves and, as a corollary, screw me.

This run on private saving sin Cypress probably upped that feeling by at least one DefCon level.
 

darkbeaver

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Anyone calling "conspiracy theory" on six thousand years of systemic bank fraud is a thirty third degree idiot or a banker or a bankers mother or Satan himself.insert smiley
 

L Gilbert

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Jeeezez. He who has the gold makes the rules. Moan and groan about it, accept it or not, it ain't gonna change. Figure out a different path, point your horse, and go.
Personally, we use the rules as far as we want to and have become pretty independent of the parts we don't want. It's hard work and takes time and a lot of thought, but it's possible.
 

darkbeaver

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Jeeezez. He who has the gold makes the rules. Moan and groan about it, accept it or not, it ain't gonna change. Figure out a different path, point your horse, and go.
Personally, we use the rules as far as we want to and have become pretty independent of the parts we don't want. It's hard work and takes time and a lot of thought, but it's possible.

So are you saying slavery usury and permanent war are acceptable ways to get the gold. It will change as it has in the past by brave strong leadership intent on honest government and free peoples.

The Fight Against USURY by  Jüri
Almost 3,700 years ago the ruler of Babylon, Hammurabi (1848-1805 B.C.). who was descended from the Amorite dynasty, forbade through his legal acts (containing 93 paragraphs) the taking of interest on interest, which meant that the borrower had to give in addition to the assets he had borrowed the same amount in goods or money. Anyone who broke the rule was severely punished, though very few abided by it. The 282 statutes of Hammurabi, written in Akkadian, were found in 1901-02 at excavations at Susa in ancient Elani (now Iran).
The tribune Tiberius Gracchus of the Roman Empire tried in 133 B.C. to reduce the power of the moneychangers through stricter laws against usury and to limit the legal land ownership to lugeri (about 600 acres) per family. He was murdered the same year.
In 48 B.C. Julius Caesar deprived the moneychangers of the right to coin money and had it done himself. With a larger money supply he was able to erect many public buildings. Common people adored Caesar for his contribution to making money more available. After the murder of Caesar there was an end to the abundance of money. The money supply was reduced by 90 percent. Taxes rose sky-high. As a result most people lost their land and their homes. The slander of Caesar goes on even today.
 

L Gilbert

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So are you saying slavery usury and permanent war are acceptable ways to get the gold. It will change as it has in the past by brave strong leadership intent on honest government and free peoples.
Nope. Not what I was saying at all. What I was saying was that we accept that there will always be people who want power, money, etc. and we've developed a life that is pretty much unaffected by it. Money is only a small part of our life and for the most part, irrelevant.
 

darkbeaver

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Nope. Not what I was saying at all. What I was saying was that we accept that there will always be people who want power, money, etc. and we've developed a life that is pretty much unaffected by it. Money is only a small part of our life and for the most part, irrelevant.

Congratulations on the development your bubble. There isn't a living organism on earth that isn't affected by murderous poisonous international private banking. You are the biblical archetype of the blind.
I didn't say dumb or deaf.
 

china

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Friday, September 11, 2009

Corruption in Canadian Brokerage and Banks

The CTF received this letter from Larry Elford and received his permission to reprint. His assertions are beyond our ability to corroborate, but his insights and comments seemed worth passing on.


If I could speak with my prime minister, here is what I would like to say.

In 2004 I resigned my career of twenty years inside the brokerage industry, mostly working with major bank owned brokerage firms. I resigned because of my failure to have an impact on raising the matter of ethical failures. Failures which I witnessed each and every day within my industry. Ethical failure I found to be standard industry practice, despite codes of ethics, codes of conduct and rules to the contrary. Virtually none of the rules are enforced when they interfere with revenue.
My efforts to support change fell on deaf ears and I failed to bring anything like “best practices” into my own industry. I failed. I left.

I took on personal project to inform and educate the public about financial abuse by people claiming “trusted financial advisor” status. I was dealing in crimes and abuses which earned millions of dollars within every investment office that I knew of.

In 2005, after a fund company employee took his own life, in circumstances of management retaliation so brutal they can only be described as “corporate and legal torture”, I decided that I needed to inform yourself and others of the magnitude of the crimes against Canadians, the ease with which they were perpetrated and the lack of enforcement in Canada. I failed to gain your attention to the matter, and I failed to interest your Parliament in addressing these types of crimes.

At that time I was then dealing with an example where financial abuse of customers had placed over $800 million into the pockets of the investment firm. This case is on file with the standing committee on finance. It failed to raise an eyebrow within your government.

In 2007 or 2008, the market for toxic ABCP investments imploded, catching everyone with their pants down. It left $32 billion missing in action from our Canadian economy. The supposed authorities who now claim to investigate this matter, were in fact well documented participants in the legal tricks that allowed this $32 billion to disappear in the first place.* I ask how you can preside over a system which lets conflicted regulators aid financiers and then allows the same conflicted regulators to investigate the damage done? GET YOUR MONEY BACK! Misconduct and malpractice. Investment industry "best and worst practices". Information to improve public protection. Expert witness services for industry and investors. Forensic investment analysis. • View topic - ABCP's of st

I testified in Ottawa to a standing committee on finance on these matters, and yet I still have failed to properly engage those at the top. No change. No response. I failed.

I add up the crimes against Canadians, against our economy, and I conclude that clever, cunning white collar fraudsters are putting more money in their pockets each year in Canada, than the economic damage done by each and every other crime in the entire country, combined. http://www.investoradvocates.ca/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=179

Here is where you have failed as leader. Failed to set aside political self preservation in favor of the public interest. Failed to protect Canadians from abuses by rich and powerful parties. Failed to protect our economy from infection by financial pandemic.

The very best you have done is to hire one securities commission head, to begin work on a new national securities commission. Hired from one of the very securities commissions who participated in the legal “tricks” that allowed each of these crisis to infect Canada. Perhaps will allow them to infect Canada for years to come. Even Richard Nixon was known to say, “you cannot trust the people who made the mess, to clean it up.”

You have failed to understand that allowing the foxes to guard the henhouse is an example of “worst practices”. You have failed to give us anything that looks like “best practices”. You are failing on giving us a modern, honest, unconflicted securities regulation. The industry makes more money on dirty, dishonest, and conflicted.

We deserve better. We deserve a leader who understands this and does not fail to act, when our entire economy, our financial future, and the financial health of Canadians is at daily risk from financial predators.

With respect for your position, you have failed us and you have failed the position.
Each and every Canadian, with exception of fraud artists and banksters, are now paying the price. Fraud artists and banksters are toasting what a great country Canada is to commit white collar crime.

Larry Elford
Executive director of www.investoradvocates.ca
(former CFP, CIM, FCSI, Associate Portfolio Manager, retired)
Lethbridge AB​