But we don't hear any whining about that, now do we?Most of the taxes go to the international banks.
Generally speaking, Canadians pay over 50% of their incomes in overall taxes. So, for every dollar Canada gives out to its citizens for whatever reason, they get it back in taxes of one sort or another. So, out of the $32 Billion paid out to OAS, $16 billion will probably end up back in general revenue. Where does the rest go to: personal rent, utility bills, car payments, increased health costs, etc. All of it taxable.
Sorry, it is 41.5% according to Stats Can in 2011. But I don't think that includes stuff like manufacturing taxes, import taxes and such that are tagged onto the retail prices of most items.Generally you are wrong on the total tax paid.
Sorry, it is 41.5% according to the Fraser Institute in 2011. But I don't think that includes stuff like manufacturing taxes, import taxes and such that are tagged onto the retail prices of most items.
lol I have no problem with that, but what gov't seems to have twisted it into is "ask not what your gov't can do for you but ask what you can do for your gov't".Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.
You beat me to it.
There's a difference between calling you an "idiot" and calling what you post "an idiotic idea".
Oh, I forgot the amount that the gov't charges in taxes, levees, fees, etc. to foreign interests. But wherever Canada gets its dough from is irrelevant; it's Canadian revenue and belongs to Canadians.
OK Cliff, let's play your game, have you looked at the General Revenue for the Canadian government? Of course not, here take a look at the latest numbers: Federal general government revenue and expenditures (Revenue)
It clearly shows that in 2009 the federal government has general revenues of $237.357 Billion from various sources, of which only $12.878 Billion come from "investment income" the vast majority comes from taxes ($197.183 Billlion).
So your arguement that OAS doesn't cost the taxpayer anything is pure hogwash. OAS pensions total about $32 Billion every year so even if we move every cent, or is it nickle now, of the investment income it still leaves a shortfall of $19.122 Billion that taxpayers must pay every year. AND this amount is growing every year!!
Let's see $32 Billion in OAS payments means that 12.6% of the general revenue goes to pay OAS?
Now let's take a look at the expenditure side where there isn't any category that is over $30 Billion but one...can you guess which one that one is?????? Social Services! So even the government classifies OAS as a social service program.
$32 Billion is more than we spent on healthcare in Canada in 2009!!! ($26 Billion)
This is how debating is done with fact and figures not name calling and abuse.
Semantics. It's a closed system anyway. Money just recycles around the planet.Ah, negative, the banks come first with no exceptions, that revenue legally belongs to the banks, so does the currency.
The question is whether OAS should be the single highest output of money the federal government makes. Aren't there other priorities where this money could be more beneficial to all Canadians including our seniors. Thinking about healthcare or infrastructure for example?
Bank of Canada History
The Bank of Canada, unlike the Federal Reserve in the U.S., is wholly owned by the people of Canada. It was nationalized in 1938 and was used very successfully to fund infrastructure, social programs, health and education for the benefit of all Canadians. It was used to bring us out of the depression; it funded our WWII effort, built highways such as the McDonald-Cartier freeway, public transportation systems, subway lines, airports, the St. Lawrence Seaway, our universal healthcare system, and our Canadian Pension Plan. Unfortunately, since Canada adopted Milton Friedman's theory of Monetarism in 1974, Canada has gone through the private banking sector to finance its needs causing the federal debt to increase nearly 3000%.
After 1975, our federal debt grew for the next 12 years at more than 20 percent per year. It broke the 100 billion mark in 1981 and 200 billion in 1985. While the growth slowed in 1988, our federal debt continued to climb breaking 300 billion in 1988, 400 billion in 1992, 500 billion in 1994. It peaked in 1997 at 556 billion per year. Today our debt is approximately 500 billion. Canada pays approximately 31 billion in interest every year; 171 million dollars a day.
Monetary Reform Campaign
Semantics. It's a closed system anyway. Money just recycles around the planet.
Canada pays approximately 31 billion in interest every year; 171 million dollars a day.
Monetary Reform Campaign
You foil hatter you!
I've been asking for years why this happened and nobody can give me an answer. Who is holding a gun to our government's head to prevent them from using our own bank?
I'm thinking that that may be a good thing. I asked the question on another thread a few weeks ago "who does Canada owe this debt to?" and the answer I got was mainly the citizens of Canada, so it sounds to me like Canadians are making about 5% on their investment. Much higher than treasury bills or G.I.C.s.