Harper seems to be slipping

gerryh

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oh. He did what he was accused of all right. even I remember the news casts of him giving th Trudeau salaute to the westerners that had the audacity to protest what the eastern bastards thought was good for us.


it's already been posted time and time again what these bigoted protesters were doing. A finger to them was not a finger to all of western Canada.
 

#juan

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oh. He did what he was accused of all right. even I remember the news casts of him giving th Trudeau salaute to the westerners that had the audacity to protest what the eastern bastards thought was good for us.

Oh yeah. "Let those eastern bastards freeze in the dark"

We should remember that before Leduc #1, Alberta was a have not province that was continually bailed out
by the federal government. How soon they forget.

Where do westerners come from?

Mainly, from the east.....:roll::smile:
 

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Too funny.. The Libs haven't even formally elected a leader and here is the CBC - ole faithful - reporting that the Liberals will be forming the next gvt.
Can someone tell me again why Canadian taxpayers give these idiots $1 billion every year?[/QUOTE

Because Canadians are masochists and nice .
 

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Nik Nanos polls indicate a bit of a change:

Liberal 35.4% (+6.3)
Conservative 31.3% (-0.2)
NDP 23.6% (-3.6)
BQ 4.8% (-0.4)
Green 4.2% (-1.7)
*Undecided 11.2% (-17.1)


Justin Trudeau's Liberals in this poll, have climbed out of second place.

Federal Liberals lead Conservatives in new poll


Nanos poll suggests NDP drop to third as number of undecided voters plummets

By Laura Payton, CBC News

Posted: Apr 12, 2013 5:07 AM ET

Last Updated: Apr 12, 2013 5:04 AM ET

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A new poll by Nanos Research shows the Liberals ahead of the Conservatives and NDP. The Liberal Party will announce Sunday who won the vote to become the next leader. Marc Garneau, who dropped out of the race, looks on as hopefuls Martha Hall Findlay, Justin Trudeau and Martin Cauchon take part in a debate in Halifax on March 3. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)





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The federal Liberals have topped the Conservatives for the first time in years, with the NDP dropping to third, a new Nanos Research poll suggests.
The poll, which comes more than two years before the next federal election, has the Liberals in first place at 35.4 per cent. The Conservatives are 4.1 percentage points back, at 31.3 per cent and the NDP are at 23.6 per cent.
The difference between the Liberals and Conservatives is greater than the margin of error for the poll. The numbers are considered accurate to within 3.3 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
That puts the Liberals up several percentage points from the last poll two months ago, when they sat in second place at 29.1 per cent. The Conservatives were ahead in that poll with 31.5 per cent and the NDP in third at 27.2 per cent.
The number of people polled who said they were undecided has plunged since the last survey, from 28.3 per cent last February to 11.2 per cent this month.
The Liberal Party has had substantial media coverage in the past few months as they ramp up to reveal their next leader this weekend.
"It is too early to tell whether this increase in Liberal support is the new trend or a direct result of the focus on the Liberal Leadership race," Nik Nanos, the president and CEO of Nanos Research, told CBC News.
"What is clear is that the focus on the Liberal leadership is having reverberations on the political landscape," he said.

All very predictable.

When Dion was elected leader of the Lib's they then polled ahead of the Con's.
When Iggy was elected leader of the Lib's they then polled ahead of the Con's.
When the Dauphin is coronated this weekend the Lib's will then poll consistently ahead of the Con's.

But Harper still polls ahead of all others as the first choice of Canadians to lead the country.

The Dip's have nothing to the left of them and the Con's have nothing electable on the right of them.
The Dip's and the Con's both will move further to the center over the next two years and apply a squeeze play to the Lib's.

Mini-me Trudeau got very few registered leadership voters in Quebec, roughly the same number of registered voters as in Alberta.
Thus Quebec is showing very little interest at all in Trudeau's pending leadership.
And without Quebec the Lib's cannot form a majority government.

The next two years and the following election campaign will be tougher on Trudeau than many think.

Personally I think minority governments are the wave of the future.
 

L Gilbert

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I don't care about polls. And I think any fool that wants Turdeau as a leader is a much bigger fool than one who wants the beancounter. I haven't seen the Gliberal party stand for anything other than popularity and pretending to be frugal for decades.
 

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And Turdeau wouldn't be? lol

As much as he is a puppet, the Libs are already miles better than Cons.

But anyway, I keep forgetting there's people on this forum that actually genuinely like the CPC so I'll go back to PC mode.

I would be perfectly fine with a CPC minority because the other two parties are actually agreeable on many items (especially with the NDP moving toward the center) and you would have the odd fiscal decision from the Cons that might make some inkling of sense being passed through.

 

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I don't care about polls. And I think any fool that wants Turdeau as a leader is a much bigger fool than one who wants the beancounter. I haven't seen the Gliberal party stand for anything other than popularity and pretending to be frugal for decades.

Who was the guy who promised us new arctic patrol ships, who promised new fighters to replace the F-18s? I think his name was Harper. Shipyards in B.C. were to get a lot of work......Are they? Why are we better off with Harper? Didn't he just try to steal money
from our soldiers?
I see no reason here not to give Trudeau a chance.
 

L Gilbert

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As much as he is a puppet, the Libs are already miles better than Cons.
Baseless opinion.

But anyway, I keep forgetting there's people on this forum that actually genuinely like the CPC so I'll go back to PC mode.
Apparently you also forget that I don't like parties period, but we are stuck with them and I don't see one I'd chance replacing the Cons with. Certainly not the Gliberals.

Who was the guy who promised us new arctic patrol ships, who promised new fighters to replace the F-18s? I think his name was Harper. Shipyards in B.C. were to get a lot of work......Are they? Why are we better off with Harper?
And you think the Gliberals were all angels? Who reduced the Canadian Forces down to the point where the Mongolian Navy (if Mongolia even has one) could have whupped us in the first place? Who ripped the rugs out from under the provinces healthcare and education budgets without warning just in order to balance the budget for a couple years?
Didn't he just try to steal money
from our soldiers?
Nope. That was a committee of bureaucrats that have probably been doing that same thing since long before Harpy became PM. And they weren't trying to steal it in the first place.
I see no reason here not to give Trudeau a chance.
lol Well, that's not my problem, it's yours.
 
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Who was the guy who promised us new arctic patrol ships, who promised new fighters to replace the F-18s? I think his name was Harper. Shipyards in B.C. were to get a lot of work......Are they? Why are we better off with Harper? Didn't he just try to steal money
from our soldiers?
I see no reason here not to give Trudeau a chance.[/QUOTE]

There's an old saying.........."the acorn doesn't fall very far from the tree"!-:)

I don't care about polls. And I think any fool that wants Turdeau as a leader is a much bigger fool than one who wants the beancounter. I haven't seen the Gliberal party stand for anything other than popularity and pretending to be frugal for decades.

Personally I don't think we need either, like a choice between arsenic and strychnine.
 

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I wonder if they polled anybody old enough to remember the finger the old man flipped the West.

I imagine there arent many there. The wests population has grown a lot since then. The new people either werent born yet or werent there at the time.
 

WLDB

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I don't care about polls.

Unfortunately the media does. They pay more attention to polls than to platforms or candidates which is annoying. Its all about the polls and strategy. The people by and large seem to like it that way for some reason.

I remember it, but it's not as if giving people the bird was the worst that Turdeau senior ever did.

True. At least he was honest about it. I liked that about him and Mulroney. Different in almost every way but they didnt mind pissing people off. Politicians today try to hard to please everyone and wind up pleasing nearly no one.