Royal Bank not very Canadian

tay

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Royal Bank of Canada (RBC) is firing dozens of its employees in Canada and replacing them with lower-paid temporary foreign workers. RBC is forcing their soon-to-be-unemployed Canadian employees to train their own replacements. RBC made $7.5 billion in profits in 2012.

Also about a year ago, they increased their service fees.


The RBC website insanely claims that it is:
  • One of Canada’s “Best 50 Corporate Citizens”
  • One of Canada’s “50 Most Socially Responsible Corporations”
  • One of the “Best Workplaces in Canada”
  • Canada’s 10 Most Admired Corporate Cultures
Don’t be confused into believing this latest scandal is the end of their treachery. If RBC gets away with stabbing Canadian workers in the back this time, they will repeat it over and over, and other companies will follow suit. Even if they temporarily back down due to bad publicity, they will do it again later unless we keep up the pressure. Maybe your workplace is next.

This is further proof that the Conservative temporary foreign worker program is not meant to address the phony “skills shortage” problem in Canada. The Harper-Conservatives’ goal is to kill Canadian jobs and lower wage levels and working conditions across the country. A few Conservative politicians are faking concern and claiming there will be an investigation, but they are only saying this because they were caught.

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Here is the contact information for some of the traitors who helped make this happen.

RBC contacts

RBC complaint form: http://www.rbc.com/customercarehttp://www.rbc.com/customercare

RBC form to contact the board of directors: https://www.rbc.com/governance/contactus.htmlhttps://www.rbc.com/governance/contactus.html

Key figures who are responsible include:
  • Gordon M. Nixon, RBC president and chief executive officer
  • Janice R. Fukakusa, RBC chief administrative officer and chief financial officer
  • Zabeen Hirji, RBC chief human resources officer
Their personal email addresses are not listed on the RBC website, but the RBC email address pattern is firstname.lastname@rbc.com

RBC public affairs manager: mark.hamill@rbc.com

RBC media relations contacts: http://www.rbc.com/newsroom/contact.html#regionalhttp://www.rbc.com/newsroom/contact.html#regional

Canadian government contacts

Stephen Harper, prime minister: stephen.harper@parl.gc.ca and pm@pm.gc.ca

Jason Kenney, minister of citizenship, immigration and multiculturalism: jason.kenney@parl.gc.ca and minister@cic.gc.ca
Lisa Rait, minister of labour: lisa.raitt@parl.gc.ca and lisa.raitt@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca

Diane Finley, minister of human resources and skills development: diane.finley@parl.gc.ca and diane.finley@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca

Christian Paradis, minister of industry: christian.paradis@parl.gc.ca and minister.industry@ic.gc.ca

Their office phone numbers can be found by clicking on their names at:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainCabinetCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current
 

Machjo

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Now one issue I do see has to do with foreign laws being imposed on Canada. I can agree with international laws applying to Canada, but not the laws of another country.

From my understanding, RBC has an agreement with Travelocity for its points redemption, and as a result cannot book Cuba and sometimes faces issues with other destinations.

Certainly any company having business dealings with any Canadian company should conform to Canadian law in Canada, no?

Now in a sense Travelocity is not violating Canadian laws since when the client is booking online it's through a company in the US. But still, certainly this is one are where NAFTA could be revised. If a US citizen comes to Canada and from Canada goes to Cuba, that ought to be none of the US' business. After all, Canadians should not be subject to Canadian laws in the US, right?

Royal Bank of Canada (RBC) is firing dozens of its employees in Canada and replacing them with lower-paid temporary foreign workers. RBC is forcing their soon-to-be-unemployed Canadian employees to train their own replacements. RBC made $7.5 billion in profits in 2012.

Also about a year ago, they increased their service fees.



The RBC website insanely claims that it is:
  • One of Canada’s “Best 50 Corporate Citizens”
  • One of Canada’s “50 Most Socially Responsible Corporations”
  • One of the “Best Workplaces in Canada”
  • Canada’s 10 Most Admired Corporate Cultures
Don’t be confused into believing this latest scandal is the end of their treachery. If RBC gets away with stabbing Canadian workers in the back this time, they will repeat it over and over, and other companies will follow suit. Even if they temporarily back down due to bad publicity, they will do it again later unless we keep up the pressure. Maybe your workplace is next.

This is further proof that the Conservative temporary foreign worker program is not meant to address the phony “skills shortage” problem in Canada. The Harper-Conservatives’ goal is to kill Canadian jobs and lower wage levels and working conditions across the country. A few Conservative politicians are faking concern and claiming there will be an investigation, but they are only saying this because they were caught.

————————————————————————————————-

Here is the contact information for some of the traitors who helped make this happen.

RBC contacts

RBC complaint form: http://www.rbc.com/customercare

RBC form to contact the board of directors: https://www.rbc.com/governance/contactus.html


Key figures who are responsible include:
  • Gordon M. Nixon, RBC president and chief executive officer
  • Janice R. Fukakusa, RBC chief administrative officer and chief financial officer
  • Zabeen Hirji, RBC chief human resources officer
Their personal email addresses are not listed on the RBC website, but the RBC email address pattern is firstname.lastname@rbc.com

RBC public affairs manager: mark.hamill@rbc.com

RBC media relations contacts: http://www.rbc.com/newsroom/contact.html#regional

Canadian government contacts

Stephen Harper, prime minister: stephen.harper@parl.gc.ca and pm@pm.gc.ca

Jason Kenney, minister of citizenship, immigration and multiculturalism: jason.kenney@parl.gc.ca and minister@cic.gc.ca
Lisa Rait, minister of labour: lisa.raitt@parl.gc.ca and lisa.raitt@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca

Diane Finley, minister of human resources and skills development: diane.finley@parl.gc.ca and diane.finley@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca

Christian Paradis, minister of industry: christian.paradis@parl.gc.ca and minister.industry@ic.gc.ca

Their office phone numbers can be found by clicking on their names at:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainCabinetCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current

I'll agree that what thye've done was a little tactless with their own employees, but you seem to be less concerned with the ones losing their jobs and more so with the fact that the ones replacing them are 'evil foreigners'. RBC could have adopted an attrition policy instead, but other than that you seem to be suggesting that if they were outsourcing to another province, then it would have been no big deal.
 

Nuggler

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You have to love how the Star spins facts, lol.



Check out Facebook - Boycott RBC

A lot of people are pissed off

Probably won't change anything, but, they is !!

Talking about mass withdrawls, closing accounts, etc.

Probably will go on for a few days as in Occupy, or Idle no More, then status quo.
 

Kreskin

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This is such a joke. Banks do banking, not software and IT development. They aren't a technology company, and technology moves way too fast. Of course banks, and any other company who needs state of the art tech, will seek out tech companies. Do a google search on credit union outsourcing and check out all the outsourcing companies making their wares from the so-called locals. It's the same reason McDonalds hires a bank to do their banking. Same with or Microsoft and Apple. Companies do what they do, and get third-parties to operate the things that they don't do.

What do you expect the banks to do when they need new computers? Design and manufacture them with their Canadian labor departments?

People need to give their heads a shake.
 

Andem

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You mean they're not hiring pure-bloods? Oh my! They should no better than to hire the best qualified for the job. They're supposed to stick to their ingroup. Goddy gee wiz batman.

This is where the bleeding heart comes in pounding his chest.

It obviously makes sense for the country to allow a bunch of unskilled foreigners into the country to perform the tasks of locals who will be pushed out and thus rendered unemployed. Those unemployed will then be collecting some kind of benefit because of their predicament, yet the entire family (upto 160 members) may also be collecting benefits because of their "unique migrant background". </sarcasm>

The cost of production will still go up, consumer prices will increase, the amount of people on payrolls will decrease vs. population and the cost of living will increase at a rate more rapid than inflation.

Goody gee wiz batman., indeed. Obviously basic economics, nor mathematics, was your strong suit in school/university if you attended.

There are far more qualified unemployed people than enough in Canada to completely negate your absurd assumptions, which actually seem rather racist.
 

Nuggler

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You don't like the free market?

After the FTA, many northern companies moved to Mexico only to move back once they realized how expensive it was to train the staff. This can happen only to a degree, and remember that many Canadians are probably profitably employed in india and elsewhere in teh world. I realise harper seems to view working abroad as being treason, but I don't. I do believe in reciprocity though.


So go work in India. 250,000,000 untouchables can't be wrong.

When the last Canadian worker has been laid off, and we fight at the garbage dump for something to eat, then maybe people like you will be happy.

I believe if we have highly educated & highly trained people who can contribute to other countries then let them go work there. I also believe if other countries have highly trained & educated people to contribute to Canada then let them work here. What I don't believe is that cheap, unskilled labour should be imported to replace Canadians so a corporation can save a few bucks. There is a cost to doing business and in Canada that cost should include hiring Canadians even if they cost more.


But but but...............our Great Leader supports, encourages, and allows this. How??!!8O can it be wrong.???

so you think it is perfectly fine if you go into work tomorrow and they introduce you to a new person from India, tell you to train them and tell you your job is done in a month and goes home with the person you are training...that's okay with you?

It's called outsourcing and you are supporting it.


May as well save your keypad, Sal. You'll never get these dullards to understand how their country is being parceled up and given away.

and how is it you don't have a choice? What does walmart carry that you can't get any where else?


Very true Gerry. We can buy Indian/Chinese made goods at Canadian Tire..........TSC.........Home Hardware..........wow.

Ah yes in-sourcing, lay off already trained people and bring in citizens from another country to fill the positions left vacant by the laid off Canadians. Shouldn't we have some laws against that sort of chicanery?


NOpe!! El Haroisto loves it. Can't be wrong.
 

mentalfloss

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As far as I understand it, our temporary foreign worker program is meant to bring in high skilled labour from other countries because businesses aren't equipped to fill those jobs with Canadians due to skills shortages.

Except under the program we're hiring people at McDonald's, A&W, Tim Hortons and Subway???

Foreign worker program wrongly fills low-skill jobs | CTV News


I wonder what they're actually paying these people.
 

JLM

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Dozens of employees at Canada’s largest bank are losing their jobs to temporary foreign workers, who are in Canada to take over the work of their department.

“They are being brought in from India, and I am wondering how they got work visas,” said Dave Moreau, one of the employees affected by the move. “The new people are in our offices and we are training them to do our jobs. That adds insult to injury.”



RBC replaces Canadian staff with foreign workers - British Columbia - CBC News

I've heard quite a bit of chatter on the radio about this, but from what I've heard I've been unable to determine if employees were actually fired or if the foreigners were hired to take care of extra business in peak periods. If Canadian residents who are employed by the Bank were indeed fired, I think every account holder should change banks pronto. If the Royal Bank thinks they can improve their "bottom line" by hiring East Indians then I would suggest they move their H.Q. to Calcutta.
 

taxslave

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That's why I proposed I'd support higher taxes for universal compulsory education and skills training for the unemployed, since these would be efficient ways of redistributing wealth without insulting the unemployed by handouts.

Retraining only works if there are actually jobs in that field and more important for many is a job where they live. Colleges turn out many "graduates" in overcrowded fields just because they make money doing it.
 

Machjo

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Retraining only works if there are actually jobs in that field and more important for many is a job where they live. Colleges turn out many "graduates" in overcrowded fields just because they make money doing it.

Of course it has to be well-planned.
 

SLM

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In some cases, a pittance of what they're actually worth.

It's been going on for a long, long time. There were a few industries admittedly where skilled workers were sometimes hard to find, so this kind of thing makes sense in that regard. But it's being used by every industry, not just the banks. I currently know of 3 restaurants that are looking at overseas hiring and it's going through too. Now, how much of a skilled shortage can we have in those fields?
 

CDNBear

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Now, how much of a skilled shortage can we have in those fields?
Very little.

What we do have though is, a shortage of humility, and a surplus of entitlement...



 

damngrumpy

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I checked back with some friends that said the would cancel their stuff and accounts with
the Royal Bank. Five of the six are already gone and one is having some difficulty with a
few investments. Funny I thought they were venting.
Walmart is a huge volume buyer and prices can be kept low but we do have the choice of
buying else where and paying more or looking for products made somewhere else.
I try to do that, there are a few things I get at Walmart but I try to stay away from them as
they are the destroyers of local business. Yes I am prepared to pay a little more to support
local.
Some say we can't worry as much about the third world in tough times, we are about to be
the third world if we allow some of the things happening to continue.
 

JLM

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I checked back with some friends that said the would cancel their stuff and accounts with
the Royal Bank. Five of the six are already gone and one is having some difficulty with a
few investments. Funny I thought they were venting.
Walmart is a huge volume buyer and prices can be kept low but we do have the choice of
buying else where and paying more or looking for products made somewhere else.
I try to do that, there are a few things I get at Walmart but I try to stay away from them as
they are the destroyers of local business. Yes I am prepared to pay a little more to support
local.
Some say we can't worry as much about the third world in tough times, we are about to be
the third world if we allow some of the things happening to continue.

Actually when it comes right down to it, Walmart is as local as most of them, they hire local people, pay local taxes etc. I suppose RONA is local but provide crappy service, Hudson Bay is local but expensive, Home Hardware is local and actually good quality at a good price, Canadian Tire is local and a good place to buy paper clips. We are in the process of getting Target which is actually no more local than Walmart.

I checked back with some friends that said the would cancel their stuff and accounts with
the Royal Bank. Five of the six are already gone and one is having some difficulty with a
few investments. Funny I thought they were venting.
Walmart is a huge volume buyer and prices can be kept low but we do have the choice of
buying else where and paying more or looking for products made somewhere else.
I try to do that, there are a few things I get at Walmart but I try to stay away from them as
they are the destroyers of local business. Yes I am prepared to pay a little more to support
local.
Some say we can't worry as much about the third world in tough times, we are about to be
the third world if we allow some of the things happening to continue.

Actually when it comes right down to it, Walmart is as local as most of them, they hire local people, pay local taxes etc. I suppose RONA is local but provide crappy service, Hudson Bay is local but expensive, Home Hardware is local and actually good quality at a good price, Canadian Tire is local and a good place to buy paper clips. We are in the process of getting Target which is actually no more local than Walmart.