Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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Why is the birth rate in Israel's Ethiopian community declining? Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Why is the birth rate in Israel's Ethiopian community declining?
Women say that while waiting in transit camps in Ethiopia they were coaxed into agreeing to injections of long-acting birth control drugs.

Women who immigrated from Ethiopia eight years ago say they were told they would not be allowed into Israel unless they agreed to be injected with the long-acting birth control drug Depo Provera, according to an investigative report aired Saturday on the Israel Educational Television program "Vacuum."

The women say that while waiting in transit camps in Ethiopia prior to immigration they were placed in family planning workshops where they were coaxed into agreeing to the injection - a charge denied by both the Joint Distribution Committe, which ran the clinics, and the Health Ministry.

"We said we won't have the shot. They told us, if you don't you won't go to Israel And also you won't be allowed into the Joint (American Joint Distribution Committee) office, you won't get aid or medical care. We were afraid... We didn't have a choice. Without them and their aid we couldn't leave there. So we accepted the injection. It was only with their permission that we were allowed to leave," recounted Emawayish, who immigrated from Ethiopia eight years ago.

Emawayish was one of 35 women, whose stories were recorded by Sebba Reuven, that relate how they were coaxed and threatened into agreeing to receive the injectable birth control drug.

The birth rate among Israel's Ethiopian immigrant population has dropped nearly 20 percent in 10 years.

According to the report, the women were given the Depo Provera injections in the family planning workshops in transit camps, a practice that continued once they reached Israel. The women who were interviewed for the investigation reported that they were told at the transit camps that having many children would make their lives more difficult in Ethiopia and in Israel, and even that they would be barred from coming to Israel if they refused.

The Joint said in a response to "Vacuum" that its family planning workshops are among the services it provides to immigrants, who learn about spacing out their children's birth, "but we do not advise them to have small families. It is a matter of personal choice, but we tell them it is possible. The claims by the women according to which 'refusal to have the injection will bar them from medical care [and] economic aid and threaten their chances to immigrate to Israel are nonsense. The medical team does not intervene directly or indirectly in economic aid and the Joint is not involved in the aliyah procedures. With regard to the use of Depo Provera, studies indicate that is the most popular form of birth control among women in Ethiopia," the Joint said.

In its response to "Vacuum," the Health Ministry said it did not "recommend or try to encourage the use of Depo Provera, and that if these injections were used it was against our position. The Health Ministry provides individual family counseling in the framework of its well baby clincs and this advice is also provided by the physicians of the health maintenance organizations."

The Jewish Agency, which is responsible for Jewish immigration from abroad, said in response that it takes a harsh view of any effort to interfere in the family planning processes of Ethiopian immigrants, adding that "while the JA has never held family planning workshops for this group in Ethiopia or at immigrant absorption centers in Israel, the immigrant transit camp in Gondar, as the investigation noted, was previously operated by other agencies."

Administering birth control without consent (either by coercing them with threats that they won't be allowed into Israel or by telling them they were just inoculations) as a form of population control falls under the definition of genocide, yes.
 

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ISLAM is anti-Jew..............a concept you can't seem to grasp, despite the written words.

IF (and I do mean IF) the Israelis engaged in ethnic cleansing, then so did the Arabs, and it evens out.

Time for the Arabs to take care of their own, as Israel did.

And, as always, the question comes down to this:

Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in ANY Arab country??

The answer should inform you on which side you should be on......

In fact, you could ask Israeli ARABS, would you rather be an ARAB in Israel, or an ARAB in any Arab country, and a significant number would choose Israel.

Colpy: ISLAM is anti-Jew..............a concept you can't seem to grasp, despite the written words

Jews and Muslims lived together in peace for centuries. Jews fleeing discrimination, oppression and genocide in Europe at the hands of Christians often fled to Muslim majority countries.
History of the Jews in the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

During the Holocaust Albania's Muslims helped Jews
Holocaust | The Nazis, the Holocaust and Muslims

During that time of systematic persecution (Nazi domination of Europe), it is nearly impossible to accept that there was one country in Europe that saw its Jewish population grow. But that is exactly what happened in Albania and Kosovo - Jews were safe there. Muslims ignored the grave risks to themselves and sheltered not only their Jewish neighbours, but also thousands of Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi terror. “During the Nazi occupation of Albania,” states Johanna Neumann of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, “there is not one confirmed instance of a Jew being handed over to the Nazis by a Muslim Albanian.”
When Muslims Saved Jews | Feature Articles | Features | January 2010 | emel - the muslim lifestyle magazine

I suspect that Colpy refers to certain anti-semitic passages in the Qur'an, which quoted out of context can be twisted to support Colpy's point that Muslims are antisemitic. I could also use the same technique to twist the meaning of Christianity to claim Christians are antisemitic too:
Antisemitism and the New Testament - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But it would be far easier and more valid to point out centuries of Jewish suffering as a result of Christian oppression and injustice, including in the Holocaust. Many Nazis responsible for the Holocaust were Christians.
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/paul_23_4.html

Muslim countries have no such record of extreme antisemitic oppression, injustice or genocide.

Rising antisemitism in Muslim countries is yet another consequence of Zionist ethnic cleansing, oppression and injustice as well has a series of wars. 1.4 billion Muslims have 1.4 billion unique viewpoints. Some Muslims are antisemitic and some aren't, just like Christians, Hindus, atheists... Only an Islamaphobic racist would believe that all Muslims are antisemitic.

Colpy: IF (and I do mean IF) the Israelis engaged in ethnic cleansing, then so did the Arabs, and it evens out. Time for the Arabs to take care of their own, as Israel did.

Two wrongs never make a right. (I oppose all ethnic cleansing)

People should only be held accountable for their own actions, not the actions of others. (Palestinians are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of about 10,000 Jews from the West Bank)

Jews experienced rising antisemitism in many Muslim majority countries only after Zionists started their ethnic cleansing war against Muslims and bombed neighboring Muslim majority countries. That would make Zionists partly responsible for Jewish suffering in Muslim countries.

Any Jews in Arab countries at war with Israel that supported Zionism were considered enemy collaborators. Try giving money and material support for Canada's enemies and you will likely face similar consequences as Jews in Arab countries that supported Zionism. Prosecution for supporting the enemy isn't antisemitism.

Many Arab and Muslim majority countries were/are corrupt and some people in these countries took advantage of the situation to seize Jewish property. I am unaware of any Palestinians that profited from the Jewish exodus of Muslim countries. If any Palestinians played any role at all in the mass Jewish emigration, it was likely very minor. People should only be held responsible for their own actions. Since Palestinians were not involved, they are not responsible.

Some Muslim countries protected their Jewish citizens from discrimination:
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/iran.html

Its misleading to claim all Jews who emigrated from Muslim majority countries, after Zionists started their ethnic cleansing war, lost everything or even suffered ethnic cleansing. Many Jews from Muslim majority countries sold their property and immigrated to Israel for the same reasons as Canadian and American Jews who also sold their property and immigrated to Israel at the same time.

Many Jews immigrated to Israel for religious reasons but also many were attracted to Israel because of Israel's many discriminatory laws which favor Jews over non-Jews. Many Jewish immigrants to Israel are beneficiaries of Zionist ethnic cleansing. They moved into Palestinian homes and acquired Palestinian property that Zionists stole from Palestinians. This process continues today:


Palestinians are responsible for their actions and Zionists are responsible for their actions. So far Zionsts have gotten away with 60+ years of oppression and injustice in support of their efforts to cleanse the holy lands non-Jews.

The Harper government unshakably supports Zionist oppression, injustice and their many war crimes. Canada must treat all war criminals equally. Canada must treat all nations which practice ethnic cleansing equally.

Colpy: Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in ANY Arab country??

The answer should inform you on which side you should be on......

In fact, you could ask Israeli ARABS, would you rather be an ARAB in Israel, or an ARAB in any Arab country, and a significant number would choose Israel.


Palestinians like all human beings want fundamental human rights.

The same argument Colpy makes in support of Zionist oppression and injustice was also used to justify slavery. Its also true that many blacks also had a better life as slaves on a prosperous plantations than many free blacks. Many black slaves would choose the relative security and prosperity of life of a slave than take their chances as free men.

Non-Jewish Israelis want the same rights and freedoms as Jewish Israelis.

Instead they suffer discrimination, oppression and injustice. Just like the bad old days of slavery in the US south, Israeli Jews have little fear of criminal prosecution if they commit acts violence, rape and murder against Arabs:

November 2008
...Violent attacks by Jewish residents in the Israeli city of Acre last month have left 14 Palestinian families, a total of 72 people, homeless. All 72 are Israeli citizens who had their homes destroyed. For the more than 1 million Palestinian citizens of Israel, the Jewish “riots” in Acre are only the most extreme example of the systematic discrimination they face within the Zionist state..
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http://directaction.org.au/issue6/acre_pogrom_highlights_zionist_anti_arab_racism
So far no criminal prosecutions...

I can literally cite hundreds of examples of Israelis getting away with committing violent crimes against their religious minorities. Here is a summary from AI's 2011 annual report:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/israel-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-2011#section-67-7

The fundamental cause of violence in the region remains while the Zionist State of Israel continues their ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from the holy lands and denies millions of people citizenship, the right to food, clothing, shelter and medicine, freedom of movement...

Until Palestinians have freedom and justice, Israelis won't know peace. That's an observation regarding human nature, not a wish.

Since I support freedom and justice for everyone (including Jews and Israelis), I cannot support the Zionist State of Israel's continued oppression, injustice and ethnic cleansing of its religious minorities... including those without citizenship.
 
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Palestinians like all human beings want fundamental human rights.
Then start posting about Hamas' brutality. Because Palestinians are trying to immigrate to Israel to get those human rights.

I see you didn't answer his question though.

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I see you didn't answer his question either, lol.

I didn't think either of you would, but I didn't think his question or me pointing out that none of you are comfortable with answering the question, was so troubling that it would cause you to neg me, lol.
 
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Hezbollah fighters taking an oath in 2000.

WHO is acting like Nazis?????????
 

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see post #845

How well the slave master treats the slave is beside the point. The slave is still a slave.
 

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Slave owners gave the exact same justification for slavery as Colpy gave for Israelis to continue denying Palestinians citizenship, fundamental human rights, freedom and justice.

Look how good I treat some of my slaves, they are happy and well fed. Never mind the ones I whip or rape.

Look how good the Israelis treat a few token Palestinians. Never mind their lack of freedom and justice, their reduced rights, travel restrictions, walls, the abduction, torture and murder with impunity, ethnic cleansing....

Why does Canada "unshakably support" Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity again?
Amnesty International 2012 Annual Report
The Israeli authorities continued to blockade the Gaza Strip, prolonging the humanitarian crisis there, and to restrict the movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). In the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, the authorities continued to construct the fence/wall, much of it on Palestinian land, and to expand settlements, breaching international law. They demolished Palestinian homes and other facilities in the West Bank, and homes of Palestinian citizens inside Israel, especially in “unrecognized” villages in the Negev. The Israeli army frequently used excessive, sometimes lethal force against demonstrators in the West Bank and civilians in border areas within the Gaza Strip. Israeli military forces killed 55 civilians in the OPT, including 11 children. Settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank increased, and three Palestinians were killed by Israeli settlers. Israeli settlers and soldiers accused of committing abuses against Palestinians generally escaped accountability. The authorities failed to conduct independent investigations into alleged war crimes by Israeli forces during Operation “Cast Lead” in 2008-2009. The Israeli authorities arrested thousands of West Bank Palestinians. More than 307 were administrative detainees held without charge or trial; others received prison terms following military trials. Israel held more than 4,200 Palestinian prisoners at the end of 2011. Reports of torture and other ill-treatment of detainees continued.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/israel-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-2012
 
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When the Luciferian cult of Israel is destroyed later this year will you follow them into the desert and camp close to them?
The humour of you avoiding the question as well, aside...

Luciferian?

You do realize that Lucifer isn't the devil or even demonic don't you?

Maybe you could take a little time away from praying for the genocide of Jews and educate yourself a little.

That would be nice.
 

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The humour of you avoiding the question as well, aside...

Luciferian?

You do realize that Lucifer isn't the devil or even demonic don't you?

Maybe you could take a little time away from praying for the genocide of Jews and educate yourself a little.

That would be nice.

I answered the question weeks ago.

I am not praying for the end of the Jews. I love my enemies like the book suggests. It drives them crazy. They can't handle love beams.

You should move to Israel and join the IDF.