Idle No More -Where is the Leadership?

[CDNBear]

I didn't make any agreements.

Doesn't matter. You entered the contracts.

Enjoy.

I would certainly remember signing such an agreement or contract.

Geezus, how many times are you going to keep posting that idiotic and erroneous excuse?

You don't have to sign anything to enter a contract.

If you knew as much about contract law as my kids, I wouldn't have had to tell you that as many times as I have.

Are you sure it was me or am I just some white guy you point the finger at because we all look the same to you?

LMAO!!! The irony aside, given your generalizations of all First Nations.

So that's a yes, you actually have to say something stupid in everyone of your posts, got it.

Are you trying to say indian chicks are just guys in drag?

Nope. You should probably take my advice and learn how to read.

 

[Goober]

I didn't make any agreements. I would certainly remember signing such an agreement or contract. Are you sure it was me or am I just some white guy you point the finger at because we all look the same to you?

Are you trying to say indian chicks are just guys in drag? That is not a very nice thing to say about your bretheren sisters.

This is getting beyond idiocy and repugnant to say the least - the Crown did - It is Law - it is and has been upheld by the SCoC - It ain't gonna change. It is the law. Now can we move on from the same old same old.

Your beliefs and those of radicals within FN Peoples will lead to violence-

 

[Mowich]

That was generous.

Ya think? ;-)

 

[CDNBear]

Now can we move on from the same old same old.

Probably not. That silly and completely idiotic excuse is the center piece of his nonsensical beliefs.

Without it, his whole nutty belief system might fall apart.

He won't let that happen.

Your beliefs and those of radicals within FN Peoples will lead to violence-

That's what happens when extremists square off.

I wonder if PN even knows he's the exact same as the extremist Natives at MNN.

Ya think? ;-)

Yes, lol.

 

[gerryh]

Ya think? ;-)

once in a while he does.

 

[Goober]

once in a while he does.
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Yes Bear has been known to have a brain fart every now and again.

Fart Sounds - YouTube

 

[PoliticalNick]

Doesn't matter. You entered the contracts.

Prove it.

You don't have to sign anything to enter a contract.

No I don't, but if it is disputed it would be YOUR burden to prove I did if you want me to be bound by it. You should have got me to sign something.

 

[gerryh]

Prove it.

No I don't, but if it is disputed it would be YOUR burden to prove I did if you want me to be bound by it. You should have got me to sign something.

only one explanation, you're stupid.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Not the ones that don't exist anymore. Those tribes aren't doing anything but becoming fertilizer.


I don't hate anyone. I dislike people living in the past and thinking the people of the present should pay for things that happened to their ancestors. I dislike whiners who cannot just get on with taking responsibility for their own lives. Race doesn't enter the equation for me until the whiners bring it up.

The North American Indians want their race to mean something in this argument and think it should entitle them to some special standing. Same for the Jews, most think that entitles them to some special standing in the world, well it doesn't.

I am Jewish and built a very successful life for myself without ever once asking for a hand-out or any special favor or status because of my heritage. I feel sorry for those that don't have the gumption to do the same and despise those that think their heritage is an excuse for their lack of success in life.

So Indians should get over the Residential Schools, the stripping of their heritage and murder of their people and Jews need to forget the Holocaust and quit whining about it. You would have done well in Dachau, you could have run a lucrative business removing the gold from the teeth of the dead before they were sent to the crematoriums.

 

[PoliticalNick]

So Indians should get over the Residential Schools, the stripping of their heritage and murder of their people and Jews need to forget the Holocaust and quit whining about it. You would have done well in Dachau, you could have run a lucrative business removing the gold from the teeth of the dead before they were sent to the crematoriums.

People don't need to forget the wrongs done in the residential schools or in the holocaust but they do need to get over it. The holocaust and Hitler's plan is not a reason to displace and abuse hundreds of thousands of Arabs. The League of Nations certainly didn't have any foresight in creating Israel and the global problems that have arisen from it, or maybe they did which is even worse to think.

So let me ask you this Mark...Did you send anyone to a residential school? Did you strip someone of their heritage? Did you murder any Indians? If you haven't done any of those things why would you be willing to accept responsibility and pay restitution for those events?

 

[Cliffy]

People don't need to forget the wrongs done in the residential schools or in the holocaust but they do need to get over it. The holocaust and Hitler's plan is not a reason to displace and abuse hundreds of thousands of Arabs. The League of Nations certainly didn't have any foresight in creating Israel and the global problems that have arisen from it, or maybe they did which is even worse to think.

So let me ask you this Mark...Did you send anyone to a residential school? Did you strip someone of their heritage? Did you murder any Indians? If you haven't done any of those things why would you be willing to accept responsibility and pay restitution for those events?

Man, you are thick. It is not about paying retribution. It is about paying for the land and resources from the people who were first here. How many times do you have to be told before it sinks in?.

 

[Locutus]

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Silencing those Aboriginals Who Disagree with "Idle No More"


Red Deer resident Anthony Sowan is a full status Cree Indian. And he doesn't agree with Idle No More whatsoever. So he expressed his opinions publicly and this is what happened. Here's his original Facebook posting that started the ball rolling.

When republished on the Huffington Post Canada, one Idle No More supporter inadvertently let the cat out of the bag about the real purpose of the movement:

Idle No More is about forming a socialist government, in equal partnership with Indigenous people and settlers, where building community, culture, and sharing is the common goal, not a capitalist selfishness, that borrows off the less fortunate. It's a reverse way of thinking, contribute to my community FIRST, ask for what I need last. Not everyone gets it yet!



Anthony Sowan: It's Embarrassing How the #IdleNoMore Protest is Being Handled


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[Trex]

Looks like the Idle All the Time thing has run its course.
Harper has defined how future negotiations with AFN will be run.
Atleo looks like he has picked up the reins again.
Coup plotting Manitoba Chiefs are now threating to take their toys, go home and sulk.
The insurrectionist Palmater has been absent from the CBC news set.

And it's now 30 below in Ottawa and Spence has suddenly decided to discuss returning home to "heal" after her ordeal.

Reminds me of the Occupy Wall Street fizzle.

 

[petros]

And in the meantime...

 

[PoliticalNick]

Man, you are thick. It is not about paying retribution. It is about paying for the land and resources from the people who were first here. How many times do you have to be told before it sinks in?.

They may have been here before the explorers but hoe do you know they were first? Can you tell me for sure they didn't arrive here and wipe out some other culture? The whole thing is hogwash now anyway. I think on a planetary scale and we all own the resources as much as the next person for the betterment of humanity. All this BS about it was mine and you have to buy it makes me sick. There are good June to be had and revenue to be shared by all. Hell, the natives had no friken idea what oil or aluminum or nickel were til the white man started mining & drilling long after the treaties were done.

 

[Goober]

And in the meantime...

Things are heating up.

Idle No More: Band set to remove Spence if she doesn’t drop hunger strike, reports says | Canada | News | National Post

A band council delegation from the beleaguered Attawapiskat community is reportedly slated to fly into Ottawa to hand-deliver an ultimatum to Chief Theresa Spence on Wednesday afternoon, threatening to oust her from office unless she ends her liquid-diet protest.

Negotiations to end the fast — which began more than 40 days ago when she left her northern Ontario community to set up camp on Victoria Island — had already ramped up earlier this week, but the Aboriginal Peoples Television Network is reporting that Ms. Spence now faces pressure from within her own council.

“They are coming in tonight,” a source close to Ms. Spence told APTN. “Then it will end.”
Ms. Spence’s spokesperson, Danny Metatawabin, confirmed that Liberal interim leader Bob Rae and First Nations leaders are in the midst of talks to end the liquid diet, although he would not comment on the preconditions. According to the Canadian Press, Ms. Spence wants opposition parties and First Nations supporters to sign a 13-point declaration, in part promising to maintain pressure on the Conservative government to amend its omnibus legislation and also to demand on-reserve housing and education improvements.

Sources — who don’t want to be quoted because they negotiations are at a critical point — say a resolution could be reached as early as Thursday.

 

[petros]

They finally decided to let her know she is just embarrassing herself?

 

[DaSleeper]

They finally decided to let her know she is just embarrassing herself?

And them>>>>>

 

[CDNBear]

Prove it.

You're here, in Canada, knowingly benefiting from the contract, lol.

No I don't, but if it is disputed it would be YOUR burden to prove I did if you want me to be bound by it.

You're bound by it, because you're here, lol.

You should have got me to sign something.

Don't have to.

They may have been here before the explorers but hoe do you know they were first?
Can you tell me for sure they didn't arrive here and wipe out some other culture?

Weak, lame, idiotic, irrelevant red herring.

The whole thing is hogwash now anyway.

Your posts certainly are.

I think on a planetary scale and we all own the resources as much as the next person for the betterment of humanity. All this BS about it was mine and you have to buy it makes me sick.

Says the guy that says he'd shoot By-Law officers for trespassing on his property, lol.

There are good June to be had and revenue to be shared by all.

Oh so true. But you don't want to share.

Remember?

Hell, the natives had no friken idea what oil or aluminum or nickel were til the white man started mining & drilling long after the treaties were done.

1, In North America, the early European fur traders found Canadian First Nations using bitumen from the vast Athabasca oil sands to waterproof their birch bark canoes.

2, We mined calumet.

3, Native Americans were the first to mine and work the copper of Lake Superior and the Keweenaw Peninsula of northern Michigan between 5000 BCE and 1200 BCE.

Are there any other moronic statements you'd like to make that exposes how uneducated you are?

They finally decided to let her know she is just embarrassing herself?

Do you think she'll get it?

 

[Mowich]

via sda

Silencing those Aboriginals Who Disagree with "Idle No More"


Red Deer resident Anthony Sowan is a full status Cree Indian. And he doesn't agree with Idle No More whatsoever. So he expressed his opinions publicly and this is what happened. Here's his original Facebook posting that started the ball rolling.

When republished on the Huffington Post Canada, one Idle No More supporter inadvertently let the cat out of the bag about the real purpose of the movement:

Idle No More is about forming a socialist government, in equal partnership with Indigenous people and settlers, where building community, culture, and sharing is the common goal, not a capitalist selfishness, that borrows off the less fortunate. It's a reverse way of thinking, contribute to my community FIRST, ask for what I need last. Not everyone gets it yet!



Anthony Sowan: It's Embarrassing How the #IdleNoMore Protest is Being Handled


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"Clarify what you are protesting for, or against. I've never seen such a passionate group of people go forward in protest in such disarray, and without clearly stating what it's all about. If it's generally about your need to be consulted, respected, justified for being mistreated, or the preservation of your culture, then let's be out with it and start a constructive discussion."

Indeed. A single voice. A coherent message. Rock on Anthony.