Climate Change Kills 5 Million People Every Year

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Land developers go off and get local authorities to rezone flood zones into residential zones, then they build houses, then one day the area floods and people cry climate change…
 

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Not too many years ago we were encouraged to drain standing water to help prevent mosquito breeding. Now those spots are called habitat. Glad I kept all my old tires, makes me an environmentalist.
 

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........the changes occurs whether
we do anything or not.
Um, nope. Nature didn't get rid of all the marshes and swamps in the Penticton area that were home to a shipload of critters from turtles and newts to muskrats to red-winged blackbirds and other marsh birds. Humans did that. Nature doesn't pave over zoological and botanical habitat; humans do that.

Nature doesn't pollute inlets and streams with chemicals; humans do that.

Nature didn't deplete the ozone layer in the stratosphere; humans did that.

Nature didn't cause the devastating effects at Chernobyl or in the Gulf of Mexico.

:rolleyes:
 

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Um, nope. Nature didn't get rid of all the marshes and swamps in the Penticton area that were home to a shipload of critters from turtles and newts to muskrats to red-winged blackbirds and other marsh birds. Humans did that. Nature doesn't pave over zoological and botanical habitat; humans do that.

Nature doesn't pollute inlets and streams with chemicals; humans do that.

Nature didn't deplete the ozone layer in the stratosphere; humans did that.

Nature didn't cause the devastating effects at Chernobyl or in the Gulf of Mexico.

:rolleyes:

Green freak. Nature has focked over this planet ten thousand times worse than mankind could even imagine, including chemical poisonings atmospheric gas depletion and addition, repeated mass extinctions and terrestrial cataclysmic destruction of continental scope and of long long duration where any life of any kind was virtually impossible. Lava flows regularly pave over large areas of living breathing life. Sure we do our bit but it's the apex of human conceit to believe we can compete with the destructive power of nature and equally conceited to think we can stop any natural climatic change by even a fraction. Nature rules when it comes to environmental destruction.
Climate change is natural therefore the OPs title should be Nature kills five millions per year. There it don't sound so stupid now. Doctors kill more than that fer frock sake. How was Christmas Les?
 
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Um, nope. Nature didn't get rid of all the marshes and swamps in the Penticton area that were home to a shipload of critters from turtles and newts to muskrats to red-winged blackbirds and other marsh birds. Humans did that. Nature doesn't pave over zoological and botanical habitat; humans do that.

Nature doesn't pollute inlets and streams with chemicals; humans do that.

Nature didn't deplete the ozone layer in the stratosphere; humans did that.

Nature didn't cause the devastating effects at Chernobyl or in the Gulf of Mexico.

:rolleyes:
Nature does do those things but they're natural processes that can be fast or slow over millions of years. Sometimes nature gets a hand from a select slice of nature. We aren't separate from nature, we are part of nature.
 

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Green freak. Nature has focked over this planet ten thousand times worse than mankind could even imagine, including chemical poisonings atmospheric gas depletion and addition, repeated mass extinctions and terrestrial cataclysmic destruction of continental scope and of long long duration where any life of any kind was virtually impossible. Lava flows regularly pave over large areas of living breathing life. Sure we do our bit but it's the apex of human conceit to believe we can compete with the destructive power of nature and equally conceited to think we can stop any natural climatic change by even a fraction. Nature rules when it comes to environmental destruction.
Climate change is natural therefore the OPs title should be Nature kills five millions per year. There it don't sound so stupid now. Doctors kill more than that fer frock sake. How was Christmas Les?

Nature does do those things but they're natural processes that can be fast or slow over millions of years. Sometimes nature gets a hand from a select slice of nature. We aren't separate from nature, we are part of nature.
Well, sorry, but we've caused more damage in a couple hundred years than nature usually does. Outside of large comets smacking the planet, we've managed to do quite a bit in a relatively short period of time.
But you are quite right; nature can be pretty devastating. The thing is, we don't really need to screw it up even faster.
Like I said, we **** in our crib, we have to suffer through it.
 

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Well, sorry, but we've caused more damage in a couple hundred years than nature usually does. Outside of large comets smacking the planet, we've managed to do quite a bit in a relatively short period of time.
But you are quite right; nature can be pretty devastating. The thing is, we don't really need to screw it up even faster.
Like I said, we **** in our crib, we have to suffer through it.
Have we? We aren't and never will be top of the "threat to all life" heap. Bacteria has us beaten hands down.

If the macrobes don't get you, the microbes sure as sh*t will.
 

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ALL forms of life are under threat of inhilation because of microbes. Try and name one that isn't.
I agree but it isn't because microbes inhale. And as I said, microbes are mostly species specific. Species also have immune systems. Nothing that lives on the planet is immune to humans. And we kill anything that gets in the way, or even kill anything just for the sake of killing it.

On top of that, nature can balance microbes; it can't balance humans.
 

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I agree but it isn't because microbes inhale. And as I said, microbes are mostly species specific. Species also have immune systems. Nothing that lives on the planet is immune to humans. And we kill anything that gets in the way, or even kill anything just for the sake of killing it.

On top of that, nature can balance microbes; it can't balance humans.

And still you persist with your banker induced fear mongering. Humans are balance at all times by natural forces. Thee scales have tended to be a bit obscure in these later days, owing to all the bling and smoke, but nevertheless function perfectly according to natures dictate. I have a new kitten polydactyl polydactle polydactile, frokinstupidlanguage, seven toes. he eats and murders anything in his way all day., birds do it bugs do it. Just this mornin I chemically murdered a village in my armpit. You should get out in the woods, farther.
 

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And still you persist with your banker induced fear mongering. Humans are balance at all times by natural forces. Thee scales have tended to be a bit obscure in these later days, owing to all the bling and smoke, but nevertheless function perfectly according to natures dictate. I have a new kitten polydactyl polydactle polydactile, frokinstupidlanguage, seven toes. he eats and murders anything in his way all day., birds do it bugs do it. Just this mornin I chemically murdered a village in my armpit. You should get out in the woods, farther.
Perhaps.
perhaps also, you should quit abusing drugs. It may make you a wee bit more coherent and your opinions a wee bit more relevant.
 

petros

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We have limited observations on multi-decadal oceanic cycles but we have known for some time that they may act to slow down or accelerate the observed warming trend. In addition, we also know that changes in the surface temperature occur not just due to internal variability, but are also influenced by “external forcings”, such as changes in solar activity, volcanic eruptions or aerosol emissions. Combined, several of these factors could account for some or all of the reduced warming trend seen over the last decade – but this is an area of ongoing research.

if the oceans are the heating/cooling system for the planet you'd think that would have been the best place to start modelling from.

Why are they dragging their asses?
 

petros

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- but this is an area of ongoing research.
Yes, it is. If they were on the ball with modeling the here and now, predicting the current Mid West drought would have been an easy conclusion and would have given plenty of warning to prepare for the worst.