Sciense is a religion by itself.

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Situation.
Please, look at 10 points again.
At first I speak about Vacuum, Photon, Electron by formulas .
Today we don't know what Vacuum, Photon, Electron are.
Therefore is possible many speculations speaking about them.
Take my work as one more speculation and try to understand
what Vacuum, Photon, Electron are.
Forget about God Souls and Religion.
I don't speak about God and Souls in any of my points.
But I say The God and His Souls are hidden in these formulas.
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If I, a simple peasant , understood the scheme of God's plan of existence,
so everybody ,using usual human logic, can understand too.
socratus.
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Not sure if the above anecdote is real or not, but the teacher was wrong...two blue eyed parents can have a child with brown eyes. It's not a likely outcome, but it is in fact a possibility. The teacher here isn't that well versed in genetics, and the ignorance of the teacher made for an unfortunate reality at home.

Science by itself is most certainly not a religion, in fact that statement makes zero logical sense. Though cases like the above can happen; a little science and a lot of confidence can be a recipe for ignorant disaster.
 

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Situation.
Please, look at 10 points again.
At first I speak about Vacuum, Photon, Electron by formulas .
Today we don't know what Vacuum, Photon, Electron are.
Speak for yourself.
Therefore is possible many speculations speaking about them.
Take my work as one more speculation and try to understand
what Vacuum, Photon, Electron are.
Exactly, your ramblings are speculative.
Forget about God Souls and Religion.
Really? And then you say stuff like the following?
I don't speak about God and Souls in any of my points.
But I say The God and His Souls are hidden in these formulas.
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If I, a simple peasant , understood the scheme of God's plan of existence,
so everybody ,using usual human logic, can understand too.
socratus.
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You say don't speak of it, and then you speak of it.
 

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Questions.
1. What is Vacuum ?
2. Which particles can exist in Vacuum ?
3. What is reason their movement ?
4. What is a Photon ?
5. What is an Electron ?
6. Where does consciousness come from ?
7. Is this consciousness staty or can develop ?
8. Who am I ?
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The answers to these questions must be given using physical laws and formulas.
Philosophy without physical laws and formulas is a market's talk.
And we can see the market's talk on many forums.
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socratus
 

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Questions.
8. Who am I ?
socratus
You are photons, electron and protons in space. Consciousness comes from the collective, the Universe. You are but a figment of your imagination, a hologram of an image you project onto space. Time is a product of your perception of what you imagine is a linear sting of events. the meaning of those events is just so much mental masturbation we call science. Who is actually doing the imagining is another question all together.
 

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Philosophy without physical laws and formulas is just philosophy. Science is necessary but not sufficient to understanding things, there are other ways of knowing and we need them too.
 

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Sciense is a religion by itself.
Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Here is the scheme of His plan.
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God : Ten Scientific Commandments.
1. Vacuum: T=0K, E= ∞ , p= 0, t=∞ .
2. Particles: C/D=pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, e^i(pi)- -1.
3. Photon: h=1, c=1, h=E/t, h=kb.
4. Electron: h*=h/2pi, E=h*f , e^2=ach* .
5. Gravity, Star formation: h*f = kTlogW : HeII -- > HeI -- > H -- > . . .
6. Proton: (p).
7. The evolution of interaction between Photon/Electron and Proton:
a) electromagnetic,
b) nuclear,
c) biological.
8. The Physical Laws:
a) Law of Conservation and Transformation Energy/ Mass,
b) Pauli Exclusion Law,
c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Law.
9. Brain: Dualism of Consciousness.
10. Practice: Parapsychology. Meditation.
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Questions.
1.
Can Vacuum ( Vacuum: T=0K, E= ∞ , p= 0, t=∞ )
be fundament / basis for the Universe as a whole?
2.
Can virtual / ideal / potential particles with such parameters as
: C/D=pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, e^i(pi)- -1.
exist in the Vacuum ( Vacuum: T=0K, E= ∞ , p= 0, t=∞ )
3.
How can the virtual / ideal / potential particles begin to be ative ?
4.
Can Photon have such parameters: h=1, c=1, h=E/t, h=kb.?
5.
etc . . . . etc . . . etc
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Whatever Sheelock... everybody in Canada who went to school has known that since they finished the third year of university.


Now, here's the situation... do you have a plan to have kids? Do you want them to be better off than if they were born in Sudan? Do you or do you not want to maintain a civilization on this planet or are you so convinced it's all going to be bought up and sold off you might as well make your way straitaway to a refugee tent?

Have you ever been to Alabama? They'd get their own planet and currency upon the return of the Almighty except they lost the civil war.

Here we have the situation of a French people with double the population of Norway and a bit bigger than Sweden and with lots of good resources, such that she does indeed qualify for independent nation status.

I can't speak French, but I have access to ... technology ... enabling me to "understand" French ... but when I use it ... I feel an emotional ... situation ...

... Specifically ... there are some planets in need of conquest, but ... only Quebec has the ... uhh ... we're not going to talk about it but ... ever dealt with Russians on a busted icrebreaker in need of poutine?

Anyway... here's what I'm really here to talk about...

How come Bombardier can't build drones?

I don't belive you can't.

We have some gazillion miles of empty land up there to partol in order to maintain claim over the potential resources, and who other than Quebec could not be f*ckholded like Avro, and you *****ing* Frogs can't build a drone better than Uncle Sam???

I don't belive it!

*hick*

I take it back.

I apologize for my rudeness.

Aircraft fabricators in BC exist too.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Philosophy without physical laws and formulas is just philosophy. Science is necessary but not sufficient to understanding things, there are other ways of knowing and we need them too.

Your statement reminds me of a quote from Albert Einstein:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
 

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Sciense is a religion by itself.
Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Here is the scheme of His plan.
=.
God : Ten Scientific Commandments.
§ 1. Vacuum: T=0K, E= ∞ , p= 0, t=∞ .
§ 2. Particles: C/D=pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, e^i(pi)= -1.
§ 3. Photon: h=1, c=1, h=E/t, h=kb.
§ 4. Electron: h*=h/2pi, E=h*f , e^2=ach* .
§ 5. Gravity, Star formation: h*f = kTlogW : HeII -- > HeI -- > H -- > . . .
§ 6. Proton: (p).
§ 7. The evolution of interaction between Photon/Electron and Proton:
a) electromagnetic,
b) nuclear,
c) biological.
§ 8. The Physical Laws:
a) Law of Conservation and Transformation Energy/ Mass,
b) Pauli Exclusion Law,
c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Law.
§ 9. Brain: Dualism of Consciousness.
§ 10. Practice: Parapsychology. Meditation.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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I must be asking for a tenth time ....who / what is god .Many of you are using this word so I really would like to know how and where does the word fits and what does it mean when you are using it in your letters .
Thanks in advance for your exp.
 

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Philosophy without physical laws and formulas is just philosophy.
Science is necessary but not sufficient to understanding things,
there are other ways of knowing and we need them too.


Just philosophy - just debates - lust discussions -
I say - You say- She says -
- in my opinion - in your opinion -
you think - they think = a market's talks
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Philosophical debates / discussions about science's ideas,
about religion's ideas, about metaphysical ideas
without physical laws and formulas is a market's talk.

socratus
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Questions.
1. What is Vacuum ?
An area of very low gaseous or no pressure. physics.org | Explore | What is a vacuum?
2. Which particles can exist in Vacuum ?
Particles of matter and energy. physics.org | Explore | What is a vacuum?
3. What is reason their movement ?
Momentum. physics.org | Explore | Momentum and its Conservation
4. What is a Photon ?
Photon is the name given to a quantum of light or other electromagnetic radiation. physics.org | Explore | Photon
5. What is an Electron ?
A particle of an atom. http://www.physics.org/explorelink.asp?id=3887&q=electron&currentpage=1&age=0&knowledge=0&item=2
6. Where does consciousness come from ?
The brain. You really want me to list all the chemicals, energies, and their interactions in the brain? I don't have the time nor the inclination. You can start reading here, though: Mind & Brain Science News, Articles, and Information from Scientific American
7. Is this consciousness staty or can develop ?
It starts developing fairly early in the first stages of human life. Again, you may want to consult the chemicals and electromagnetic activity of the brain.
8. Who am I ?
You are what you eat. The Digestive System A book on dietary chemistry may help because I am not going to list all the chemicals and activities involved.
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The answers to these questions must be given using physical laws and formulas.
Philosophy without physical laws and formulas is a market's talk.
And we can see the market's talk on many forums.
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socratus
As well as the desperate need to read more science and chatter less.

Your statement reminds me of a quote from Albert Einstein:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
He had some interesting opinions. Some were lame, though. :D I'd have said "Science without curiosity is lame, curiosity without science is blind." Religion is the antithesis of curiosity in that it advocates belief without knowledge.

I must be asking for a tenth time ....who / what is god .
A creation of the imagination. Usually what people refer to when they are too ignorant about something and cannot say stuff like "I don't know so let's check it out".
Many of you are using this word so I really would like to know how and where does the word fits and what does it mean when you are using it in your letters .
Thanks in advance for your exp.
You're welcome.
 

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well I don't know, that takes the cake, trying to cuddle science up with religion is like saying that

a lemon wedge squirted into one's mouth tastes the same as a chocolate truffle in one's mouth.
 

socratus

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Your statement reminds me of a quote from Albert Einstein:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."


Albert Einstein also said:
‘All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. ‘
Question :
What is the name of this tree ?
I say :
The answer is hidden in ‘ The Theory of Vacuum and Quantum of Light ‘.

socratus
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