All religions want war, they are a menace to society. They should no longer get tax breaks from the govt. They are a biz like any other, and a bad one too.
Fed up with Religions Yet?
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The argument was over the claim that Naziism was Christian, or at least led by Christians.
I said no, it was pagan.
To prove the assertion you quoted this:
Now, if you say that the central figure was not a Jew, then remove Judaism from the Bible, make the text racist, and glorify in it the "free Nordic spirit" and return to the "Nordic peoples' fables" you have done two things:
1) You have removed the reality of Jesus Christ from the religion.
2) You have radically altered the entire foundation of the religion.
Therefore, what you have left is NOT Christianity, but paganism.
Game, Set, Match.
I am not winning the argument, I have won it, by your own words.
Fail? No delfection, just truth. As for the Sikhs they themselves said it and you can find similar articles in Google.
Nazis were pagans? Now, you're really off your rocker:
I can post DOZENS more of these for you if you wish.
Therefore, it is YOU who fail.
I shake hands with my dog.
That doesn't make me a Cocker Spaniel.
I can post dozen of pics, of Hitler hanging with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, does that make Hitler a Muslim?
Don't you love it when they do that? LOL.
From the horse's mouth....
" It's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Adolph Hitler
as quoted in
Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy by Eric Metaxas. pp. 165
" It's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Adolph Hitler
as quoted in
Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy by Eric Metaxas. pp. 165
Yeah, well I see no reason in following what Hitler said about Christianity and more than I see any sense in following what the pope (or any other religious dingbat) says. Religions are founded upon surreal grounds to begin with.
Yeah but Hitler claimed to be of the same persuasion with that dog on the pic.
Christopher Hitchens who became such a darling for right wingers later in life proves the case that Hitler was Catholic-Christian:
christopher hitchens hitler was catholic - YouTube
Even if I CLAIMED to be a dog, shaking hands with one would not make it so......
I actually like Christopher Hitchens.....but he was VERY wrong on this matter.
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Extreme politics is more of a threat than any Religion..Probably a Good thing Rich extremists are an extremely minor Force in the Whole of everything.
Although they do hold a lot/Too much of the media/politics under that/their influencial power..$$$$$$..(especially during election time)
Good thing is ; Spirituality is present in ALL..
That's what God is..The Whole of All, in 1..
We either Make it "there", or we Blow ourselves up...
1 Peace, or in pieces?
Peace
Although they do hold a lot/Too much of the media/politics under that/their influencial power..$$$$$$..(especially during election time)
Good thing is ; Spirituality is present in ALL..
That's what God is..The Whole of All, in 1..
We either Make it "there", or we Blow ourselves up...
1 Peace, or in pieces?
Peace
What are you disputing here? The citation from Mein Kampf, the loyalty oath, the Lateran Treaty, the words on the belt buckle, Hitler's birthday celebrations, what? Seems pretty clear that whatever Hitler and his National Socialism movement were, atheism was not part of it. Arguing he was Catholic might be problematic, but he WAS a believer. I've read Mein Kampf and I can vouch for the accuracy of the first item at least, Hitler did state that he believed he was doing god's work. You wouldn't read that from an atheist or a deist, at the very least he was a theist.
I would say Most believe in God(hold faith/hope ( in something Greater/Wholly/1 Peace)..
All believe in God(Hold faith, hope)when faced with their own mortality...
It's what 1 believes iITt. is/was/should be, that is the problem...(when 1/few/ try to FORCE others to believe the same as they do/in pursuit of their own interests( usually boils down to $$$$$$))
No 1 really knows exactly what iITt(GOD)is ...Is plain Ignorant, to think otherwise..(Perhaps J.C., and few others, came as close as humanly/philosophically possible, to understanding GOD/Spirituality; still not knowing Who or What EXACTLY GOD IS...
God = THE Whole of ALL, in 1.... God ...
Only iITt, would Truly know what iITt was/is/should/will be.
However, having said that...iITt.(God), would need outside observers to 1st Prove/Acknowledge iITt.s exsitence; before it could/would Truly Know iITts'self ....Only THEE 1 and only GOD knows ALL as well as iITt.s Self.. ..
.....WOW!..Existencialism..Makes My Brain Hurt...
Easier just to believe.( have faith/hold hope)....
Everything is Energy and Information ..The rest, is recycable(0 waste) ...lol...
Peace
All believe in God(Hold faith, hope)when faced with their own mortality...
It's what 1 believes iITt. is/was/should be, that is the problem...(when 1/few/ try to FORCE others to believe the same as they do/in pursuit of their own interests( usually boils down to $$$$$$))
No 1 really knows exactly what iITt(GOD)is ...Is plain Ignorant, to think otherwise..(Perhaps J.C., and few others, came as close as humanly/philosophically possible, to understanding GOD/Spirituality; still not knowing Who or What EXACTLY GOD IS...
God = THE Whole of ALL, in 1.... God ...
Only iITt, would Truly know what iITt was/is/should/will be.
However, having said that...iITt.(God), would need outside observers to 1st Prove/Acknowledge iITt.s exsitence; before it could/would Truly Know iITts'self ....Only THEE 1 and only GOD knows ALL as well as iITt.s Self.. .
......WOW!..Existencialism..Makes My Brain Hurt...
Easier just to believe.( have faith/hold hope)....
Everything is Energy and Information ..The rest, is recycable(0 waste) ...lol...
Peace
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He also claimed to be kindred with Muslims.
No doubt.
But he didn't follow a Christian doctrine. He sought to rewrite it.
This thread is loaded with assumptive terms like "traditional christianity" there isn't any unless you count Santa Claus and he's mostly holly-wood with a smatering of pagan green. "Christian doctrine" there are many, consider those world famous religious nuts the Irish who butchered each other over the interpretation of the same book. Religion isn't the problem it's the dealers. The experiment in religious self regulation failed very early on, in fact early enough for us to have forgotten the tragic results and stupidly applied them to corporations, the results are the same though, an unworkable crooked mess.
Holy crap, did you just come to that on your own?
I doubt you'll find a single poster on this board that hasn't already said that.
Your grasp of the already established obvious, is nothing less than breathtaking.
Slowly so you can understand CDNBore. The thread title>fed up with Religions Yet? Dealers is not mentioned in the title nor in the thread with the one exception which is my contribution. Out of twenty five words in your above rebuttle you got one correct idea, I am "breathtaking" devastating so, they say and that is a matter of considerable popular shared opinion about the villiage. I'v often been asked why I haven't takin employment modeling underwear. idiot war mongers
Your delusions of grandeur are only surpassed by your delusions of adequacy, lol.
The sad truth is religion and the Bible is more about politics than a spiritual movement
That has been the case since the New Testament was conceived. The Bible as we
know it turned out to be a compromise among the four leaders of the church Mathew,
Mark, Luke and John. The compromise was four versions of the Jesus story to satisfy,
the political views of the leaders rather than the intent of their supreme leader.
Spirituality is manipulated by the ebb and flow of the politics that followed through the
middle ages with the fall of Rome right through until today.
Every whack job claims God's on our side. If there is a supreme Master of the universe
he or she would be too ashamed to associate with any of the groups we have on earth
doing Gods' bidding. God, or Jesus or what ever is not the problem. its the people who
claim to represent him that constitutes the problem.
That has been the case since the New Testament was conceived. The Bible as we
know it turned out to be a compromise among the four leaders of the church Mathew,
Mark, Luke and John. The compromise was four versions of the Jesus story to satisfy,
the political views of the leaders rather than the intent of their supreme leader.
Spirituality is manipulated by the ebb and flow of the politics that followed through the
middle ages with the fall of Rome right through until today.
Every whack job claims God's on our side. If there is a supreme Master of the universe
he or she would be too ashamed to associate with any of the groups we have on earth
doing Gods' bidding. God, or Jesus or what ever is not the problem. its the people who
claim to represent him that constitutes the problem.
