Fed up with Islam Yet???

petros

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On Saturday, Naama's family were visiting relatives out of town, and the 8-year-old girl, afraid to go back to school, asked not to go back to Beit Shemesh. "I'm afraid to be in Beit Shemesh and to go to school," she said. "I asked my mother if we could move to another city because those Haredis spat at me and cursed me, but we can't move and I'm afraid to go near the school. It happens all the time."

Naama's mother voiced outrage, saying, "They keep yelling and spitting and throwing stones, eggs and tomatoes. They spit on both of us, call us terrible names and curse at us. I thought it would all end two days after the school year began, but I see that it is ongoing, and [the government] keeps building homes for them like none of this ever happened. I take Naama to school every day and she is panicked. This is something that will stay with her for the rest of her life. At this point she starts crying just at the sight of an ultra-Orthodox person. I would expect these lawbreakers to be thrown in jail because they are criminals."
Israel Hayom | Nation rallies behind 8-year-old girl assaulted by religious extremists
 

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On Saturday, Naama's family were visiting relatives out of town, and the 8-year-old girl, afraid to go back to school, asked not to go back to Beit Shemesh. "I'm afraid to be in Beit Shemesh and to go to school," she said. "I asked my mother if we could move to another city because those Haredis spat at me and cursed me, but we can't move and I'm afraid to go near the school. It happens all the time."

Naama's mother voiced outrage, saying, "They keep yelling and spitting and throwing stones, eggs and tomatoes. They spit on both of us, call us terrible names and curse at us. I thought it would all end two days after the school year began, but I see that it is ongoing, and [the government] keeps building homes for them like none of this ever happened. I take Naama to school every day and she is panicked. This is something that will stay with her for the rest of her life. At this point she starts crying just at the sight of an ultra-Orthodox person. I would expect these lawbreakers to be thrown in jail because they are criminals."
Israel Hayom | Nation rallies behind 8-year-old girl assaulted by religious extremists
That's a very interesting if not dishonestly selective quote, lol...

Lets look at the whole story...

Extremist ultra-Orthodox men habitually spit, curse and throw objects at girls and women at Beit Shemesh elementary school • Netanyahu: Israel is a democratic, liberal country - there is no room for harassment or discrimination of any kind" • Mass demonstration against violence toward women scheduled for Tuesday.

It took a cute, blue-eyed little girl to alert an entire public to the abuse directed at women in Israel. The story of Naama, a religious second-grader in Beit Shemesh and recent immigrant from the U.S. who was assaulted by ultra-Orthodox men over what they termed "immodest clothing" prompted thousands to take action and even drew harsh condemnation from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Some 5,000 people joined a newly-formed Facebook page over the weekend to show their support for Naama and the other girls at her religious school, who are habitually subjected to humiliation and verbal violence at the hands of fanatic ultra-Orthodox men. The mass show of support was sparked by a Channel 2 report, which aired Friday, on the assault of the little girl.​
Ahh yes, the State has made it's position known.

Geez, lets compare that to...
Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Nov. 14 - A gay Iranian man was hanged in public on Tuesday in the western city of Kermanshah on the charge of sodomy.

Shahab Darvishi was charged with organising a “corruption ring”, deliberate assault, and “lavat”, which means homosexual relationship between two men or sodomy, the official news agency IRNA reported.

Darvishi was hanged in the evening in Kermanshah’s “Freedom Square” in front of hundreds of people, the report said.

Under Iran’s Islamic Penal Code, homosexuality between consenting adults is a capital crime and official Iranian sources express hostility to homosexual practices. A state radio commentary on March 7, 2005 criticised gay marriages in Western countries. Ayatollah Ebrahim Amini, an influential cleric, said in his Friday-prayer sermon in Qom that gay and lesbian marriages reflect a weakness of Western culture, state television reported on July 13, 2002. Ayatollah Ali Meshkini in his Friday-prayer sermon in Qom criticised the German Green Party for being pro-homosexual, state television reported on April 29, 2000.
Enjoy.

You should probably stick to just asking silly asinine questions Pete.
 

petros

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"They keep yelling and spitting and throwing stones (that would be STONING), eggs and tomatoes. They spit on both of us, call us terrible names and curse at us.

That's not funny is it?

also addressed the issue, telling Israel Radio that the extremist ultra-Orthodox sects that use violence against young girls and women are "vicious psychopaths who belong behind lock and key." Steinitz told Israel Radio on Sunday that Internal Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch should instruct the Beit Shemesh municipality to remove the discriminatory signs and added that if Aharonovitch fails to do so he will take action himself. Steinitz said that any mayor who refuses to take down the signs, which demand that women "walk quickly and modestly, without speaking to each other" and not tread on the same side as a synagogue, will be fired.
Yuval Steinitz the finance minister is right. They SHOULD put men from sects that use violence against young girls and women behind lock and key.

Yes Aharonovitch should instruct the Beit Shemesh municipality to remove the discriminatory signs which demand that women "walk quickly and modestly, without speaking to each other" and not tread on the same side as a synagogue but have they and why the **** did it take until Dec of 2011 to come to this realization?

What is their excuse for segregating, women in the first place?

Do the little girls make them horny and distract them from sitting around on their ass all day thinking about God?
 

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Apparently people here tend to think that unless women are stoned to death, they aren't abused.

Like I said, it's the relatively few people in a religion that use it as an excuse to do sh|t, regardless of the religion (and that includes Christianity however some people here ignore or deny it). The rest of us are pretty decent people.

And for someone whose religion took a millennium and a half to start being humanitarian, it's self-righteously unbalanced and one-sided to expect another to do the same in less that a millennium.
 

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Fair enough. Now contrast that to Islam, which was aggressive war mongering supremacist caravan raiding slave taking from day one, and then wonder why we see what we see. This is not a new war, it's been going on for 1600 years. The U.S. Navy was born as a response to Jihad in the 18th century. Same old.
 

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Fair enough. Now contrast that to Islam, which was aggressive war mongering supremacist caravan raiding slave taking from day one, and then wonder why we see what we see. This is not a new war, it's been going on for 1600 years. The U.S. Navy was born as a response to Jihad in the 18th century. Same old.
Yep. Religious bullsh|t flies from the people of both sides. IMO, it's pretty fu'cked to know that the people in one's own religion did some nasty sh|t in the past and then to moan n groan about people in another religion doing the same thing.
 

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Yeah, people are people. But still, the ideologies are very different. Far more different than just being at different stages of the same evolutionary path. Which was the point. :)
 

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Yeah, people are people. But still, the ideologies are very different. Far more different than just being at different stages of the same evolutionary path. Which was the point. :)
For instance? Doesn't Christianity teach that any other religion is BS? Doesn't it teach that the Christian god is the only true god? Doesn't it teach that people of other religions should be converted into accepting Jesus as their savior?
 

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For instance? Doesn't Christianity teach that any other religion is BS? Doesn't it teach that the Christian god is the only true god? Doesn't it teach that people of other religions should be converted into accepting Jesus as their savior?



Why are you asking? You seem to be the expert in all things religious.
 

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For instance? Doesn't Christianity teach that any other religion is BS? Doesn't it teach that the Christian god is the only true god? Doesn't it teach that people of other religions should be converted into accepting Jesus as their savior?

It's a complicated subject, Les, to which I don't pretend to have any answers, but I do have one question. Is it not possible that all religions worship the same jealous God, only they call Him by different names? Maybe that's the answer we all need before any further discussion of religion makes sense. (Come on take a stab at it, Gerry) :lol:
 

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For instance? Doesn't Christianity teach that any other religion is BS? Doesn't it teach that the Christian god is the only true god? Doesn't it teach that people of other religions should be converted into accepting Jesus as their savior?



Question #1...no
Question #2 ... no
Question #3 .... preferred, but not necessary.

your post, classic troll.
 

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It's a complicated subject, Les, to which I don't pretend to have any answers, but I do have one question. Is it not possible that all religions worship the same jealous God, only they call Him by different names? Maybe that's the answer we all need before any further discussion of religion makes sense. (Come on take a stab at it, Gerry) :lol:
When I was 10 or 12 (a long time ago) getting prepared for Confirmation, I asked the Bishop or maybe the priest, (I used to question everything, the same as I do now).....
If our religion has the one true God, and all the other religions don't, (and there are many in the world)? does it mean that all the other people are going to Hell?????
His answer; which I thought was cryptic at the time...."If all those people follow their religion as they are taught and die following all their laws, without hurting anyone else in the name of God ...do you think, a God that we believe is all loving, would deny them entry in heaven, simply because they were misinformed???

Actions speak louder than prayer...............