Israeli court rejects US activist's family lawsuit

earth_as_one

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That's called a bump, My sarcasm seems lost on you CB. Did you play the music as you read about an ISM "terrorist mission" in post 277....

Past ISM campaigns have used the following non-violent tactics:

Accompanying Palestinians to minimize alleged harassment by Israeli settlers or soldiers, for example ensuring that queues at Israeli checkpoints are processed efficiently and providing witnesses and intermediaries during annual olive harvests, which are often disrupted by settlers and police.

Removing roadblocks. These are large unmanned mounds of earth and concrete on roads throughout the West Bank, and sometimes placed at the entrances of Palestinian villages by the IDF, thereby isolating those villages' inhabitants by preventing traffic in or out.


Attempting to block military vehicles such as tanks and bulldozers.


Violating Israeli curfew orders enforced on Palestinian areas in order to monitor Israeli military actions, deliver food and medicine to Palestinian homes, or escort medical personnel to help facilitate their work.


Interfering with the construction of the West Bank barrier and placing political graffiti on the wall.


Entering areas designated as "closed military zones" by the Israeli military. This is not really a 'strategy' as such, but is a prerequisite for ISM being able to conduct many of the above activities as areas in which the ISM is active are often summarily designated as "closed military zones" by the IDF.


Attempting to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip by supporting and participating in initiatives to send vessels through the naval blockade to Gaza.


Acting to deter military operations. Some ISM volunteers object to the use of the term human shield to describe their work because, they argue, in a Palestinian context the expression more usually refers to forced use of captive Palestinians by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) when searching Palestinian neighborhoods. They argue that the IDF is far more likely to shoot the darker skinned Palestinian civilians than white western looking activists, given the difference in international response. This tactic is colloquially referred to as the "white-face defense".
 

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That's called a bump....
Why do you need to bump an active thread?

You don't, which is why I think you're lying, in an attempt to save face.

It wouldn't be the first time you've been caught lying.

... My sarcasm seems lost on you CB
It wasn't sarcasm, it was just another lie, in your long history of dishonesty.

Did you play the music as you read about an ISM "terrorist mission" in post 277....
Nope. It was a silly and lame troll, followed by spam and more of your defence of a terrorist front.

acting to deter military operations. Some ism volunteers object to the use of the term human shield to describe their work because, they argue, in a palestinian context the expression more usually refers to forced use of captive palestinians by the israel defense forces (idf) when searching palestinian neighborhoods. They argue that the idf is far more likely to shoot the darker skinned palestinian civilians than white western looking activists, given the difference in international response. This tactic is colloquially referred to as the "white-face defense".
lol...
 

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That's called a bump, My sarcasm seems lost on you CB. Did you play the music as you read about an ISM "terrorist mission"....
Oh we both caught the sarcasm- Did you catch mine- We always catch things such as sarcasm, incontinent positions, and the big 2 - Racism and Liars. Are you familiar with the last 2.

Still waiting for the definition of an Alternative Tourist. I must admit is has us stumped. Checked all over the net - no one has ever heard of it.
 

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You people actually pay to be dhimmi's?

LOL!!!

Not that that is what the folks in the picture were. They were soon to be ISM leaders, posing with terrorists. Holding automatic weapons.

Non violent pacifists, don't usual vogue with Kalashnikov's, under any circumstances. Unless like you, they're prone to moral relativism and putting Palestinian violence, in context, lol.
 

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The ISM offers political activist tourists the opportunity to act non-violently against oppression and injustice, by harvesting a Palestinian farmer's olives so he can retain ownership of his farm. Sounds threatening... (sarcasm alert)
 

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The ISM offers political activist tourists the opportunity to act non-violently against oppression and injustice, by harvesting a Palestinian farmer's olives so he can retain ownership of his farm. Sounds threatening... (sarcasm alert)

Yeah- Only a group that supports Terror Organizations could come up with a term "Alternative Tourist" and have Dumb Fuks buy into it.
 

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The ISM offers political activist tourists the opportunity to act non-violently against oppression and injustice, by harvesting a Palestinian farmer's olives so he can retain ownership of his farm. Sounds threatening... (sarcasm alert)

You claimed your Grandmother was Jewish- then it changed again - So how far back to a Jewish ancestor do you have to go. Or is that another one of your many lies.
 

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The ISM offers political activist tourists the opportunity to act non-violently against oppression and injustice, by harvesting a Palestinian farmer's olives so he can retain ownership of his farm.
Hey, that's just like how you defend Hamas and The Muslim Brotherhood.

Ya sure, they do all sorts of bad, but hey! The build schools and hand out scholarships.

Your moral relativism and selective morality is funny as hell, and as always a ample supply of proof to support my observations about your true beliefs and motives.

Non violent pacifists do not pose with terrorists, while brandishing AK 47's, full stop.

Anyone that tries to whitewash that, is a dishonest dhimmi.

Sounds threatening... (sarcasm alert)
Your post sounds dishonest, and idiotic to me... (honesty alert)
 

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Our news does not report the fundamental injustice of a system which seizes people's land because they aren't the right religion and offers it to others because they are the right religion. Zionists call this property theft "redeeming" the land. I call it ethnic cleansing.

CB and Goober apparently aren't capable of recognizing Palestinian oppression and injustice issues which motivate the ISM. You can tell they are getting their asses handed to them when they attempt to stifle debate by changing the topic, personal attacks and snide remarks.

Meanwhile ES still refuses to accept that picking olives for a Palestinian farmer isn't an act of terrorism and continues to cling to his belief that photos of newly arrived alternative tourists mugging for the cameras with firearms actually proves something about the ISM.
 

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Our news does not report the fundamental injustice of a system which seizes people's land because they aren't the right religion and offers it to others because they are the right religion. Zionists call this property theft "redeeming" the land. I call it ethnic cleansing.
Yes it does. I supplied proof of that.

You on the other hand, have yet to prove your claim.

CB and Goober apparently aren't capable of recognizing Palestinian oppression and injustice issues which motivate the ISM. You can tell they are getting their asses handed to them when they attempt to stifle debate by changing the topic, personal attacks and snide remarks.


Says Mr, Goalpost shuffler, who resorts to the lie above.

In fact, the above paragraph is a prime example of what you always do, when you get tired of having your crap completely refuted, over and over. While you're exposed for what you really are, lol.

Meanwhile ES still refuses to accept that picking olives for a Palestinian farmer isn't an act of terrorism and continues to cling to his belief that photos of newly arrived alternative tourists mugging for the cameras with firearms actually proves something about the ISM.
While you dishonestly use that singular act as if it all that the ISM does.

Is that act of solidarity why ISM fears being placed on the US terrorist watch list?

Please, go on, this all simply proves my observations, and I love that.
 

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Our news does not report the fundamental injustice of a system which seizes people's land because they aren't the right religion and offers it to others because they are the right religion. Zionists call this property theft "redeeming" the land. I call it ethnic cleansing.

CB and Goober apparently aren't capable of recognizing Palestinian oppression and injustice issues which motivate the ISM. You can tell they are getting their asses handed to them when they attempt to stifle debate by changing the topic, personal attacks and snide remarks.

Meanwhile ES still refuses to accept that picking olives for a Palestinian farmer isn't an act of terrorism and continues to cling to his belief that photos of newly arrived alternative tourists mugging for the cameras with firearms actually proves something about the ISM.

BBC News - Scuffles erupt as Israel police remove Migron settlers
 

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I know some will jump in to defend israel,which i see nothing wrong with,but when a few bad apples do these kind of things,no matter who they are,palestinians or israelis,its cowardly to do so.


PS the allege "real medias" won't report that,since they are "brown tongues"

Ahhh....they were punished.

How many Hamas are punished for using the population as human shields???

Let me answer: they are not. Instead, Hamas brags about it.

And therein lies the difference.
 

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Ahhh....they were punished.

How many Hamas are punished for using the population as human shields???

Let me answer: the are not. They brag about it.

And therein lies the difference.
Let's not forget they get roads, schools, squares and so on, named after them.
 

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I attacked ES's reference to Kaplan, who appears to be a satirist as I doubt any rational person would take them seriously.

He's a satirist so you say.



1) Kaplan (ES's source) admits the US and Israeli security forces do not consider the ISM a threat.
(that's from your link), therefore they are NOT a terrorist or terrorist supporting organization

Yet now you reference him in support?

Are you reaching for straws EAO?

2) ES claims ISM newbies couldn't just show up unannounced without ISM training. I posted a link giving directions for ISM newbies to find their way to the ISM Ramallah office where they can get their ISM training where new recruits learn among other things not to handle weapons or anything resembling a weapon.

They learn not to handle weapons? Is it difficult to train people NOT to handle weapons? Who's doing the training? Anything resembling a weapon... like AK-47's?

Here are some ISM Members brandishing AK-47's.



Meanwhile ES still refuses to accept that picking olives for a Palestinian farmer isn't an act of terrorism

What on earth are you talking about?


and continues to cling to his belief that photos of newly arrived alternative tourists mugging for the cameras with firearms actually proves something about the ISM.

You mean ISM members... which is what they are. It proves alot.
 

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He's a satirist so you say.





Yet now you reference him in support?

Are you reaching for straws EAO?



They learn not to handle weapons? Is it difficult to train people NOT to handle weapons? Who's doing the training? Anything resembling a weapon... like AK-47's?

Here are some ISM Members brandishing AK-47's.





What on earth are you talking about?

You mean ISM members... which is what they are. It proves alot.


EAO is the type of person that if an adult in NAZI Germany would state- Well I supported some polices but not all that other stuff.

Now we all know that this is his only outlet for that hatred he has. He would be shunned in everyday life if he spouted his Racism at work, in the neighbourhood. He would be essentially known as a freak and I use freak as I am trying to be polite.
 

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I support universal human rights, freedom and justice. Clearly I'd have sided with the people suffering state sanctioned oppression and injustice in the 1930's, just as I have consistently side with the people suffering state sanctioned oppression and injustice in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories today.

Goober, has never once spoke up against injustice or oppression suffering by Palestinians. He's never criticized a single Israeli war crime or crime against humanity. Its pretty clear Goober supports oppressive and unjust Israeli policies which discriminate against people based on their race/religion.

The people most likely to support state sanctioned injustice and oppression in Nazi Germany in the 1930's, are those like Goober who support Israeli State sanctioned injustice and oppression today. People like Goober who embrace deceptive hate propaganda against Palestinians and Muslims today are not that different than those who embraced deceptive Nazi hate propaganda against Jews, Roma, Jehovah Witnesses, Blacks, Slavs, homosexuals... in the 1930's.

Zionist Israel and Nazi Germany are the only examples I know where governments classified people and awarded rights based on level of Jewishness.

From my viewpoint, the laws passed by Nazis in the 1930's which took away people's homes and livelihoods because they were Jewish aren't that different in principle from laws in Israel which take away people's homes and livelihoods because they are not Jewish.
 
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