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The snide remark. Still won't admit Kaplan is an Israeli propagandist.

FYI: Anyone who can make it to Ramallah can get their mandatory ISM training on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Even you ES. In fact if you go with a group, maybe you too could initiate a photo-op with AK-47s with the newbies. What are the odds, one or more of the greenhorns might think cool and pose with you? .

Why would I want to spend any time with a hate group like the ISM?

They got busted now matter how much silliness you post. Moving the goal post won't save you.

"Your mission Mr. Eaglesmack should you decide to accept it is to help harvest Palestinian olives in occupied Palestinian Territory. The farmer's livelihood depends on your success. As always, should you or any of your I.S.M. Force be caught or killed, the I.S.M. will disavow any knowledge of your actions" This message will be understood as sarcasm in five seconds.

Good luck, Eaglesmack"

Wow! You needed to use big RED font on this one.

The pictures of ISM members holding AKs must have really struck a nerve.
 

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Israeli soldiers who used boy as human shield set free — RT

I know some will jump in to defend israel,which i see nothing wrong with,but when a few bad apples do these kind of things,no matter who they are,palestinians or israelis,its cowardly to do so.
Nope, no one here would defend that act.

What we will do though, is point out how the act is illegal, and carries a sentence of up to 3 months in jail.

Now, the moral relativists will say that that is simply not enough, this is window dressing, they were set free without serving the maximum.

But they have no problem defending the use of human shields by Hamas and other terrorist groups, by putting it in context.

There is no context that justifies the use of human shields.
 

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But they have no problem defending the use of human shields by Hamas and other terrorist groups, by putting it in context.

There is no context that justifies the use of human shields.

None at all. They turn a blind eye to it. As long as Joos are being killed that is all they care about.
 

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You will know who your enemies are because you are not allowed to criticize them. Voltaire
Was he speaking of Islam or the ISM?

Have you ever read Haaretz?

Israel's oldest and third largest daily news publication?

It's extremely critical of Israel.

You're hatred and lust for genocide, isn't criticism.
 

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Was he speaking of Islam or the ISM?

Have you ever read Haaretz?

Israel's oldest and third largest daily news publication?

It's extremely critical of Israel.

You're hatred and lust for genocide, isn't criticism.
Bookmarked that site,still interesting that north american medias do not mention/report it when stuff like that happen,guess again its cause they're scared sh*tless of the jewish groups in Canada and the USA.
 

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Bookmarked that site,still interesting that north american medias do not mention/report it when stuff like that happen,guess again its cause they're scared sh*tless of the jewish groups in Canada and the USA.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

NorAm media outlets like the CBC consistently publish and/or broadcast Israeli critical pieces. Even to their own peril, re: Journalistic integrity.

CAMERA is forever challenging NorAm media to be more accurate, when they publish/broadcast Israeli critical pieces, without fully vetting the stories, or glossing over the facts. In a manner unfriendly to Israeli interests.

The silly notion that NorAm media, is somehow afraid to, or pressured not to accurately, openly or fully cover news from the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, is absolutely ridiculous.

Haaretz is allowed to criticize idiot, it,s owned by them who you ain,t allowed to criticize.
 

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

NorAm media outlets like the CBC consistently publish and/or broadcast Israeli critical pieces. Even to their own peril, re: Journalistic integrity.

CAMERA is forever challenging NorAm media to be more accurate, when they publish/broadcast Israeli critical pieces, without fully vetting the stories, or glossing over the facts. In a manner unfriendly to Israeli interests.

The silly notion that NorAm media, is somehow afraid to, or pressured not to accurately, openly or fully cover news from the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, is absolutely ridiculous.


The worlds first zionist bear eating at the Tel Aviv dump again.
 

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Geeze, for someone that claimed they don't support the ISM 100%. You do defend them 100%...lol.
I attacked ES's reference to Kaplan, who appears to be a satirist as I doubt any rational person would take them seriously.

Why would I want to spend any time with a hate group like the ISM?They got busted now matter how much silliness you post. Moving the goal post won't save you.Wow! You needed to use big RED font on this one.The pictures of ISM members holding AKs must have really struck a nerve.

1) Kaplan (ES's source) admits the US and Israeli security forces do not consider the ISM a threat.
(that's from your link), therefore they are NOT a terrorist or terrorist supporting organization

2) ES claims ISM newbies couldn't just show up unannounced without ISM training. I posted a link giving directions for ISM newbies to find their way to the ISM Ramallah office where they can get their ISM training where new recruits learn among other things not to handle weapons or anything resembling a weapon.

3)Kaplan is deliberately manipulative and I gave this example which proves it:

Kaplan claims the people in the photos "are" ISM leaders".
The ISM claims these people just showed up in Jericho and hadn't received their ISM training at the time of the photographs.

eao: likely both statements are correct. The people were newbies at the time of the photograph and their actions don't reflect accurately ISM rules. The people are ISM leaders now. Kaplan's portrayal of a newbie's gaff as proof ISM policy includes handling firearms is deliberately misleading. Its then used to create a perception by similar deceptive techniques to allege the ISm is a terrorist organization.

The ISM uses non-violent methods to legally interfere with poor treatment of Palestinians. The ISM Olive Harvest helps Palestinian farmers retain ownership of their farm land. Israeli laws, rules and security measures prevent Palestinian farmers from tending their land. The Israeli state expropriates abandoned Palestinian land, even if Israeli laws, rules and security measures prevent Palestinian owner access. Land expropriated by theIsraeli government becomes available for Jewish only ownership/development.

ISM volunteers tend the crops on behalf of Palestinian farmers in order to help them retain ownership. Kaplan's attmpts to portray ISM volunteers that pick olives on behalf of Palestinian farmers as violent terrorism are ridiculous. The ISM appears to be a non-violent organization which acts for Palestinian Freedom and Justice....

Palestinian Land Expropriations
Palestinian citizens of Israel constitute approximately 20 percent of the population but their local authorities use and control only 3.4 percent of the land.vi Approximately 76 percent (1,113 km2) of their privately and collectively owned land was expropriated between 1948 and 2001. 93 percent of the land in Israel has been nationalized, while the discriminatory land regime managed by the Israel Land Administration (ILA) and the Jewish National Fund (JNF) denies Palestinian citizens equal access to land and bars land restitution in court.[/I]
Confiscation and Discriminatory Distribution of Land
 
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I attacked ES's reference to Kaplan, who appears to be a satirist as I doubt any rational person would take them seriously.
What does that have to do with the energy you put into defending a terrorist front that you claim not to support 100%?

1) Kaplan (ES's source) admits the US and Israeli security forces do not consider the ISM a threat.
(that's from your link), therefore they are NOT a terrorist or terrorist supporting organization
So which is it EAO, his link is not credible or is it?

You can't have it both ways.

Similarly, I asked you about your link, which also support our position. Is your link credible or not?

2) ES claims newbies couldn't just show up unannounced without training. I posted a link giving directions to office in Ramallah and their training schedule, proving anyone including ES could show up unannounced and join the ISM after two days of training, where new recruits learn not to handle firearms or anything resembling a firearm.
The picture disproves that notion.

Kaplan claims the people in the photos "are" ISM leaders".
No, he said they were ISM members posing with Hamas terrorist leaders.

The ISM claims these people just showed up in Jericho and hadn't received their ISM training at the time of the photographs.
Nobody just shows up in Ramallah and suddenly decides to join the ISM

The people are ISM leaders now.
Glad you can admit that.

Kaplan's portrayal of a newbie's gaff as proof ISM policy includes handling firearms is deliberately misleading.
He made no such assertion.

Its then used to create a perception by similar deceptive techniques to allege the ISm is a terrorist organization.
No, it's then used as evidence showing their connection with terrorists.

The rest of your usual demonization of Israel, isn't worth responding to with any effort.
 

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"Your mission Mr. Eaglesmack should you decide to accept it is to help harvest Palestinian olives in occupied Palestinian Territory. The farmer's livelihood depends on your success. As always, should you or any of your I.S.M. Force be caught or killed, the I.S.M. will disavow any knowledge of your actions"

This message will be understood as sarcasm in five seconds. Good luck, Eaglesmack"


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Call to action: Olive Harvest 2012
18 August 2012
International Solidarity Movement
West Bank

At a time of increasing settler violence in the West Bank, the International Solidarity Movement is issuing an urgent call for volunteers to participate in the 2012 Olive Harvest Campaign at the invitation of Palestinian communities.

The olive tree is a national symbol for Palestinians. As thousands of olive trees have been bulldozed, uprooted and burned by Israeli settlers and the military – (over half a million olive and fruit trees have been destroyed since September 2000) – harvesting has become more than a source of livelihood; it has become a form of resistance.

The olive harvest is an annual affirmation of Palestinians’ historical, spiritual, and economic connection to their land, and a rejection of Israeli efforts to seize it. Despite efforts by Israeli settlers and soldiers to prevent them from accessing their land, Palestinian communities have remained steadfast in refusing to give up their olive harvest.

The olive tree is a national symbol for Palestinians. Photo by Jonas Weber, ISM.

Palestinian and ISM volunteers join Palestinian farming communities each year to harvest olives, in areas where Palestinians face settler and military violence when working their land. Your presence can make a big difference. It has been proven in the past to deter the number and severity of attacks and harassment. The presence of activists can reduce the risk of extreme violence from Israeli settlers and the Israeli army and supports Palestinians’ assertion of their right to earn their livelihoods and be present on their lands. International solidarity activists engage in non-violent intervention and documentation and this practical support enables many families to pick their olives. In addition, The Olive Harvest Campaign also provides a wonderful opportunity to spend time with Palestinian families in their olive groves and homes.

The campaign will begin on the 8th of October and run until the 15th of November. We request a minimum 2 week commitment from volunteers but stress that long-termers are needed as well. We ask that volunteers start arriving in the first week of October, so that we will be prepared when the harvest begins.

Training

The ISM will be holding mandatory two day training sessions which will run weekly on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Please contact palreports@gmail.com for further information.

Ongoing campaigns

In addition to the olive harvest, there will also be other opportunities to participate in grass-roots, non-violent resistance in Palestine.

ISM maintains a constant presence in Hebron, where settler harassment and violence is a regular occurrence. Lately, Israeli army violence has escalated for Palestinians living in proximity to the illegal inner-city settlement. Israeli forces have used the Palestinian neighborhoods for military training and two videos surfaced lately of soldiers brutally assaulting a young man and a child. The annual demonstration for the opening of Shuhada street has also been brutally oppressed by Israeli military forces. Weekly, illegal Israeli settlers are brought on a tour of the Palestinian old city in Hebron, supported by the Israeli army. Every week, the Palestinians are put under curfew and shops are forced to close so that settlers can take a stroll. ISM maintains a presence on these tours for purposes of prevention and documentation, as Palestinians are often assaulted by the radical settlers.

ISM also has an apartment in Nablus from where we work on a number of projects including resisting demolitions in various villages, and supporting Palestinians resisting settler theft of their lands. In addition to these activities, we participate in the weekly demonstration in Kafr Qaddum, where protesters face excessive force by the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF).

ISM activists have also been attending weekly demonstrations against the Apartheid Wall, the annexation of Palestinian land and the construction of illegal settlements in Al Ma’sara, Ni’lin, An Nabi Saleh.

Come! Bear witness to the suffering, courage and generosity of the Palestinian people under Israeli occupation.

Experiencing the situation for yourself is vital to adequately convey the reality of life in Palestine to your home communities and to re-frame the debate in a way that will expose Israel’s apartheid policies; creeping ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem as well as collective punishment and genocidal practices in Gaza.

In Solidarity,

ISM Palestine

Call to action: Olive Harvest 2012
 

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