Just What Has Obama Done With That $700 Billion Medicare Money

MapleDog

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Exactly, just like post #9.

I kinda of to say he may be right,no insurrance company will insure a person who has health problem,they are there to make money not to lose it on a client.

like for anything else,the insurance companies will do anything not to pay,they'll make the client fill a sh*tload of paper,or get a lawyer to justify why they won't pay you.
 

Tonington

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Exactly, just like post #9.

No, not like post #9. I posted a link for your edification on the matter. Mittens is on record. You posting something someone told you is the definition of hearsay. It's not verifiable.

Durp.
 

Walter

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No, not like post #9. I posted a link for your edification on the matter. Mittens is on record. You posting something someone told you is the definition of hearsay. It's not verifiable.

Durp.
There's no link in post #9, idjit.
 

JLM

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But apparently the GOP is against these Americans having the economic freedom to purchase their own insurance.

Ummmmmmmmm? that certainly doesn't sound like a Conservative platform! (But then of course parties don't follow platforms, just pull off whatever is necessary to get elected and lie about it later) :lol::lol::lol:
 

Tonington

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There's no link in post #9, idjit.

I posted a link in the following post to you. Ergo it's not hearsay. For a grammar Nazi you're not very sharp on matters relating to how our language works.

Ummmmmmmmm? that certainly doesn't sound like a Conservative platform! (But then of course parties don't follow platforms, just pull off whatever is necessary to get elected and lie about it later) :lol::lol::lol:

Of course it's not in their platform. If you've heard any of the Republicans speak about the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, it's obvious that if they are elected that's exactly what will happen.
 

JLM

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I have a brother who is a GP in the states and he has not seen or heard of anyone dieing for lack of healthcare insurance in the US because even the poorest get medicaid.

I think that lies with those who are one notch up from the bottom. I've heard a whole gamut of opinions on U.S. Health care, some excellent, some piss poor! However as we learned yesterday the system is not infallible. A famous (and probably rich) person died from complications from a now routine bypass operation!
 

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The $716 billion is taken out of Medicare's hospital and provider trust fund. But instead of retaining these savings the money is transferred to Obamacare. That's the truth. American seniors realize that the money they paid into the system is being stolen from them. They're angry about this.[/QUOTE

Correct the money was transferred to OBamacare. Ryan's plan cancels OBamacare and does not return the 700billion to Medicare.
 

Walter

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Hearsay? The House Republicans want to repeal the entire law. And Romney specifically said if elected he would repeal the law, but keep the clause that does not allow insurers to drop those with pre-existing conditions. However he didn't say a thing about keeping the clause that prohibits insurance companies from denying people a plan that covers their pre-existing condition.
Romney: Repeal health law, keep pre-existing conditions clause - The Hill's Healthwatch

Hearsay? Yeah right.
 

Bar Sinister

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I have a brother who is a GP in the states and he has not seen or heard of anyone dieing for lack of healthcare insurance in the US because even the poorest get medicaid.

Sounds like your brother has self-imposed myopia. Or did Michael Moore simply make up all of the incidents he documented in "Sicko?"
 

gopher

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I have a brother who is a GP in the states and he has not seen or heard of anyone dieing for lack of healthcare insurance in the US because even the poorest get medicaid.


All he needs to do is to look up the Harvard study that has been quoted on this forum extensively.
 

Walter

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You are certainly correct there. But Obama's plan (and Romney's) is all about those who did not; those who had below average coverage; and those who found their benefits were withdrawn for "preexisting conditions" as soon as they became ill.
Why change the majority's coverage, which they like, and impose a top down, inefficient system that still won't cover everyone, and will be run by a 15 member, unelected panel(IPAB) otherwise known as the death panel?

That Harvard study that was completely assinine.
And ripped to shreds by Fact Check.
 

JLM

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Why change the majority's coverage, which they like, and impose a top down, inefficient system that still won't cover everyone, and will be run by a 15 member, unelected panel(IPAB) otherwise known as the death panel?

It can come under one of two headings............"Don't throw the baby out with the bath water" or "If it ain't broke don't fix it"! :lol:
 

Tonington

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Why change the majority's coverage, which they like, and impose a top down, inefficient system that still won't cover everyone, and will be run by a 15 member, unelected panel(IPAB) otherwise known as the death panel?

And ripped to shreds by Fact Check.

Fact checking has routinely ripped to shreds Palin's death panel tripe:
AP Fact Check: No "Death Panel" In Bill - CBS News

And the Harvard study was not ripped to shreds by Fact Check:
FactCheck.org : Dying from Lack of Insurance

That Harvard study that was completely assinine.

What was asinine about it? I remember the last time you said they simply counted deaths from insured and those uninsured, which is not at all what they did.
 

gopher

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No reply. Well, I guess then we can all agree that President Obama did not take away $700 billion in Medicare as the Republicans said and the Harvard study's conclusions were largely endorsed by FactCheck.

:)