PQ is threatening a third referendum.

Vancouverite

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I wonder if this is just election talk - given the weakenss of their economy, they're in no position to drive away potential investors.
 

Machjo

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The PQ had better be careful. If you have too many such referendums, eventually people and perhaps even the Feds won't even pay attention to it, over time the turn out rate would drop. And in other news...
 

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I think the PQ will stay around in one form or another, as long as
it's beneficial to Quebec to have that entity as a threat. I just think
the card has been overplayed....and it's the Chicken Little thing at
this point....or maybe the Boy who cried Wolf....whatever.

When they go please ensure the door does not hit them on the arse on exit to a much smaller country.
 

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The PQ had better be careful. If you have too many such referendums, eventually people and perhaps even the Feds won't even pay attention to it, over time the turn out rate would drop. And in other news...

Agreed. They should just give up.
 

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“If [the federal government] persists on building a Canada that denies the Quebec difference, we’ll ask them to get out of the way,” Mr. Drainville said.

As if he had that power lol.
 

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This is what happens when you become a one trick pony in a changing world.
The PQ are going to have a referendum again, This could prove to be a blow
they might not recover from in the long term. Support for independence is
down. The New Democrats have made inroads into the Province, all be it at
the Federal level. The problem for the PQ is people are embracing the political
left without having to be a separatist.
I can see the PQ winning an election but when they hold the referendum the will
lose and with that they could lose their relevance, within Quebec society. If the
people have a choice they will I believe support Federalism. If that happens the
Bloc would go down with the PQ, as people have a real choice, and that is one
positive reason why people should care about Quebec's future. If people have a
choice and they chose Federalism, the long recurring nightmare of referendums
might well be over.
 

Vancouverite

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I think they should get 100% - everyone should boycott the next referendum, so the separatists can't get their mandate.
 

damngrumpy

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In the Province of Quebec many people vote for the PQ without being separatists.
Its about left and right. Most who vote left vote PQ but that does not make them
separatists. How do we know that? The PQ win an election and call a referendum
and every-time it fails. That meas people support left of center politics but they still
remain Canadians.
 

Machjo

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“If [the federal government] persists on building a Canada that denies the Quebec difference, we’ll ask them to get out of the way,” Mr. Drainville said.

As if he had that power lol.

Well in theory if a clear majority of Quebecers voted to secede, Canada would then have to negotiate a just secession.

My point though was that referendum after referendum will simply cause even some sovereigntists to lose interest, which would actually undermine the efforts of the sovereigntist camp. In short, while a successful referendum will give sovereigntists what they want, a failed referendum just dampens interest for the next one.
 

Machjo

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It's up to the FNs of PQ and nobody else.

You do have a good point here. Even if a majority voted to separate, there is still the issue of land treaties with the First Nations, compensation for the residential school system, not to mention the principle that if Quebec can separate from Canada, so can First Nations.

That could get interesting.