Government too generous with aboriginals, Canadians tell pollster

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Giving taxpayer money to corrupt leaders and lawyers is a failure and will continue to fail. Creating an "economic base" in the middle of nowhere has been a failure. Treaties are so 18th century. Aboriginals, like most Canadians are happiest in cities, because that's where most people live. It has things to do, culture, sports, and democracy. All the things an isolated reserve in the middle of nowhere lacks.



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Government too generous with aboriginals, Canadians tell pollster


BY TERESA SMITH, POSTMEDIA NEWS JUNE 30, 2012

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A tattered Maple Leaf flies over a teepee in Attawapiskat, Ontario. According to an Ipsos Reid poll commissioned by Postmedia News, Canadians are frustrated with what they see as an endless flow of cash from federal coffers to Aboriginal People — with little to no results.
Photograph by: Frank Gunn , Reuters

Canadians are frustrated with what they see as an endless flow of cash from federal coffers to Aboriginal People — with little to no results — according to an Ipsos Reid poll commissioned by Postmedia News.

On average, 64 per cent of those asked agreed with the statement "Canada's Aboriginal People's receive too much support from Canadian taxpayers." But attitudes vary across regions. The numbers who thought this were highest in Alberta and British Columbia (79 per cent and 74 per cent respectively), but lowest in Ontario and Atlantic Canada (55 per cent and 59 per cent respectively).

As well, 66 per cent - two-thirds - agreed that "Canada's Aboriginal Peoples are treated well by the Canadian government."

In Quebec and Alberta, about three-quarters of those asked believe this is true. In Saskatchewan, however, barely half - 54 per cent - think aboriginals are well treated by the federal government.

"The Canadian public believes the government wants to make things better for the aboriginal population, and that they're spending the money in order to do so," said Ipsos Reid president Darrell Bricker. "But, when they see that life is not improving . . . they feel frustrated."

Bricker said the frustration is aimed at all levels of government, including aboriginal leadership, for an "ongoing inability to get started in modern society that exists within the aboriginal community."

However, Chief Clarence Louie of British Columbia's Osooyoos First Nation said people in Canada's three aboriginal groups don't like the situation any more than taxpayers do.

Louie, who chairs the National Aboriginal Economic Development Board, said when it comes to on-reserve populations, the root of the problem lies in the federal government's funding formula. The majority of the $8 billion annual budget of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development is spent on health, education and social programs, but Louie argued the only way out of poverty is to focus on economic development: looking at ways for the community to generate its own revenue, business plans, education and skills development.

He said the system has been perpetuated by "failed government programs" such as residential schools, the reserve system, and the "ongoing control that the government exerts over Indian land."

During the historic Crown-First Nations Gathering earlier this year, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his government's focus was on creating jobs for aboriginal youths. Pam Palmater, a Mi'kmaw lawyer and candidate for the Assembly of First Nations National Chief, called Harper's plan "assimilationist," saying it would break up communities and take First Nations in the same direction they've been going for years.

Louie disagreed. "Poverty is not our birthright. There's nothing wrong with our people collecting a decent pay cheque."

"Bands like Osooyoos — which operates a resort, golf course and winery in its territory — have shown that once we start making our own money, we have more to spend on programs and services for heritage and cultural preservation," said Louie. "You have more of a chance of losing your heritage and culture in poverty than you will when you have your own source of revenue and you're standing on your own two feet."

Louie's National Aboriginal Economic Development Board released a report last week that provides a snapshot of the gaps between Aboriginal People and other Canadians. The goal is to work with government and corporate partners to close those gaps within 10 years "by concentrating on skills and education and also supporting entrepreneurship within aboriginal communities."

The Ipsos Reid poll shows that young people are less likely to believe aboriginals are well-treated by the government, though a majority of them still feel this way. Of Canadians aged 18 to 34, 56 per cent agreed with the statement "Canada's aboriginal people are treated well by the Canadian government." Three-quarters of respondents aged 35 to 54 agreed. And 67 per cent of those over 55 agreed.

In response to the statement "Canada's Aboriginal People receive too much support from Canadian taxpayers," younger and more well-educated respondents were less likely to agree than other age and education groups.

The online poll with 1,009 Canadians was conducted between June 11 and 18. Weighting was employed to balance demographics. It has an estimated margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. Smaller subsets, such as regional breakdowns, have larger margins of error.



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Goober

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What is it with your fixation on First Nations- did some kid steal your lollipop? Or did you lose your slinky again?
 

JLM

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Very strange, I correctly guessed the author of the O.P. before actually seeing the name! How could that possibly be? Especially as many posters here regard clairvoyance and E.S.P. as bullsh*t. I'm baffled.............someone help me! :lol::lol:
 

Goober

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Very strange, I correctly guessed the author of the O.P. before actually seeing the name! How could that possibly be? Especially as many posters here regard clairvoyance and E.S.P. as bullsh*t. I'm baffled.............someone help me! :lol::lol:

Ah the Gift - it is quite rare for one so young to have the Special Gift of Foretelling.
 

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Very strange, I correctly guessed the author of the O.P. before actually seeing the name! How could that possibly be? Especially as many posters here regard clairvoyance and E.S.P. as bullsh*t. I'm baffled.............someone help me! :lol::lol:
When you furnish me with winning lottery numbers, I'll sponsor your psychic hotline. Bad Injun thread? Easy guess and/or safe bet....
 

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The real problem resides within the bureaucracy that administers this money. What little is left for the band leaders to pilfer is little more than chump change.
 

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When you furnish me with winning lottery numbers, I'll sponsor your psychic hotline. Bad Injun thread? Easy guess and/or safe bet....

When I can do that I will buy up so many tickets myself, so that anyone else's share is very meagre! :lol::lol::lol:

Isn't there a way of denigrating the system, without doing it to an entire race? I think of poor little kids and struggling parents on remote reserves, lacking hygiene, warmth and shelter. These people hurt and bleed like everyone else. Show some respect and compassion. Is the money squandered there greater than what is dumped in "the trough"?
 

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I figure anyone who appoints themselves as spokesperson for people they don't even know, let alone know anything of their way of life with blanket statements like "Aboriginals, like most Canadians are happiest in cities, because that's where most people live." doesn't care a hell of a lot about respect and compassion for anyone but their own
 

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What is it with your fixation on First Nations- did some kid steal your lollipop? Or did you lose your slinky again?

$10 billion a year goes to aboriginals, divide that by 20,000,000 taxpayers and you get $500 each. The money, these billions, is going to tribal dictatorships and crooked lawyers. The fed govt is stealing a lot of lolly from us every day. Numbers that don't include provincial welfare payments to individuals, or regional development boondoggles that go on and on an on.

Are you rich?