U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say

Tonington

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If the hole in the magnetoshpere keeps getting bigger and bigger......

Want to see the graphs and timeline?
Yes. I'd like to know the answer to the questions I posed earlier too. Raw radiation? I think you are very confused.
 

mentalfloss

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US science official says more extreme events convincing many Americans climate change is real

CANBERRA, Australia - Increasingly common experiences with extreme climate-related events such as the Colorado wildfires, a record warm spring and preseason hurricanes have convinced many Americans climate change is a reality, the head of a U.S. scientific agency said Friday.

Many Americans had previously seen climate change as a "nebulous concept" removed from them in time and geography, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco.

"Many people around the world are beginning to appreciate that climate change is under way, that it's having consequences that are playing out in real time and, in the United States at least, we are seeing more and more examples of extreme weather and extreme climate-related events," Lubchenco told a university forum in the Australian capital of Canberra.

"People's perceptions in the United States at least are in many cases beginning to change as they experience something first-hand that they at least think is directly attributable to climate change," she said.

Among the extreme events, she noted record-breaking wildfires in the West in the past two years, including in Colorado, where blazes recently damaged or destroyed nearly 350 homes and killed two people.

Last spring was the warmest in the Unites States since 1895, when records were first kept. For only the third time since hurricane records started in 1851, two hurricanes formed over the North Atlantic before the season officially began June 1.

Lubchenco said that while it was impossible to attribute any single weather event to climate change, the pattern of extreme events was consistent with forecast consequences of increasing greenhouse gas emissions.


She said her agency was experiencing "skyrocketing" demand for climate change data and projections from individuals, businesses, communities and planners across the United States.

 

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US science official says more extreme events convincing many Americans climate change is real

CANBERRA, Australia - Increasingly common experiences with extreme climate-related events such as the Colorado wildfires, a record warm spring and preseason hurricanes have convinced many Americans climate change is a reality, the head of a U.S. scientific agency said Friday.

Many Americans had previously seen climate change as a "nebulous concept" removed from them in time and geography, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco.

"Many people around the world are beginning to appreciate that climate change is under way, that it's having consequences that are playing out in real time and, in the United States at least, we are seeing more and more examples of extreme weather and extreme climate-related events," Lubchenco told a university forum in the Australian capital of Canberra.

"People's perceptions in the United States at least are in many cases beginning to change as they experience something first-hand that they at least think is directly attributable to climate change," she said.

Among the extreme events, she noted record-breaking wildfires in the West in the past two years, including in Colorado, where blazes recently damaged or destroyed nearly 350 homes and killed two people.

Last spring was the warmest in the Unites States since 1895, when records were first kept. For only the third time since hurricane records started in 1851, two hurricanes formed over the North Atlantic before the season officially began June 1.

Lubchenco said that while it was impossible to attribute any single weather event to climate change, the pattern of extreme events was consistent with forecast consequences of increasing greenhouse gas emissions.

She said her agency was experiencing "skyrocketing" demand for climate change data and projections from individuals, businesses, communities and planners across the United States.


US science official says more extreme events convincing many Americans climate change is real




Hey MF... wait till that cold wind blows down from Canada this fall.

I think it is so amusing that now the GWers are actually using "weather" to use as evidence for GW. Weather! Things are pretty desperate in the GW camp I'd say.

We have to book mark this thead I think. ;)
 

mentalfloss

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I think it is so amusing that now the GWers are actually using "weather" to use as evidence for GW. Weather! Things are pretty desperate in the GW camp I'd say.

Taking what I post as an opportunity for some faulty characterization.

You don't say... ;)
 

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It is surprising that so many people just won't accept even the obvious science done by local universities and responsible government agencies. And not only won't accept it but won't even risk looking at it. I would be really interested in a discussion about avoidance of AGW, and methods of doing that, as well as adaptation, and means of achieving that. Since it is obvious that a discussion like that can`t happen, although it should, with people unconvinced by the science, could someone start a thread for that purpose. I ask because my computer doesn`t seem able to start threads. Maybe I haven`t been here long enough?

I think it would be good for the scientifically minded to continue to respond to the denialist camp for the benefit of nubies and the unconvinced, but perhaps in the new thread we could just ignore anyone who isn't being conscious. :(
 

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Hey MF... wait till that cold wind blows down from Canada this fall.

I think it is so amusing that now the GWers are actually using "weather" to use as evidence for GW. Weather! Things are pretty desperate in the GW camp I'd say.

We have to book mark this thead I think. ;)

Amazing how that works, eh?

They scream that weather and climate are not the same, but it's a wonderful crutch when their movement needs to get some traction.

I wouldn't waste the time and effort bookmaking the thread by the way; the next time that it rains somewhere in the mid west, there's bound to be another thread about this horrible and irrefutably proof of AGW
 

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US science official says more extreme events convincing many Americans climate change is real

CANBERRA, Australia - Increasingly common experiences with extreme climate-related events such as the Colorado wildfires, a record warm spring and preseason hurricanes have convinced many Americans climate change is a reality, the head of a U.S. scientific agency said Friday.

Many Americans had previously seen climate change as a "nebulous concept" removed from them in time and geography, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco.

"Many people around the world are beginning to appreciate that climate change is under way, that it's having consequences that are playing out in real time and, in the United States at least, we are seeing more and more examples of extreme weather and extreme climate-related events," Lubchenco told a university forum in the Australian capital of Canberra.

"People's perceptions in the United States at least are in many cases beginning to change as they experience something first-hand that they at least think is directly attributable to climate change," she said.

Among the extreme events, she noted record-breaking wildfires in the West in the past two years, including in Colorado, where blazes recently damaged or destroyed nearly 350 homes and killed two people.

Last spring was the warmest in the Unites States since 1895, when records were first kept. For only the third time since hurricane records started in 1851, two hurricanes formed over the North Atlantic before the season officially began June 1.

Lubchenco said that while it was impossible to attribute any single weather event to climate change, the pattern of extreme events was consistent with forecast consequences of increasing greenhouse gas emissions.


She said her agency was experiencing "skyrocketing" demand for climate change data and projections from individuals, businesses, communities and planners across the United States.

Moving the goal posts again? Few deny the climate is changing. It always has and always will.
The last 2 years have been among the coldest and wettest on the coast. How is this related to global warming?

Or do we get weather ?
 

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What is the insuperable line?
How much evidence must there be
To prove what is plain for all to see?
Must there be unanimous consent -
Are we to be ruled by sole dissent -
In the progress of time?
 

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What is the insuperable line?
How much evidence must there be
To prove what is plain for all to see?
Must there be unanimous consent -
Are we to be ruled by sole dissent -
In the progress of time?

That a great haiku... Lemme try:

 

beaker

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Moving the goal posts again? Few deny the climate is changing. It always has and always will.
The last 2 years have been among the coldest and wettest on the coast. How is this related to global warming?

Or do we get weather ?

Yes, climate change probably is a factor in the wet and rainy season the west coast is having. With all the increased ice melt in the Arctic there is more cold water coming through the Bering Straits, getting carried by the Japanese current down the coast and out into the central Pacific where the La nina is thus promoted. As we all know she has a known quality of producing cooler and wetter times on the wet coast. The point I was making earlier concerning the United States Geological Services study is that climate change is forcing the weather changes we are seeing. Have a look at it.
 

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Global warming is no longer a question of belief or opinion, it is a fact. The evidence of global warming, and its links to human activity, has been established by research and experimentation results collected by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) based on over seven million observations of temperature, salinity and other variables in the world’s oceans; and that has definitively ruled out natural climate variations due solar activity, volcanic eruptions, photosynthesis, etc. as the cause of measurable increase in ocean temperature, which has risen 0.9F in just the past 40 years. (The same findings were made in a long-range study in Britain.) Even the Pentagon acknowledges the fact of global warming and the threat of climate change on national security interests. See Peter Schwartz and Doug Randall, "An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security" (October 2003). In face of the scientific evidence, which has been independently verified, to say that there is any doubt about it is no longer tenable.
 

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This is where I stopped reading.


It seems that several people stop reading that early into these posts, which are going really quickly. So I thought I would re-post this one in the hope that someone could follow up on it.

It is surprising that so many people just won't accept even the obvious science done by local universities and responsible government agencies. And not only won't accept it but won't even risk looking at it. I would be really interested in a discussion about avoidance of AGW, and methods of doing that, as well as adaptation, and means of achieving that. Since it is obvious that a discussion like that can`t happen, although it should, with people unconvinced by the science, could someone start a thread for that purpose. I ask because my computer doesn`t seem able to start threads. Maybe I haven`t been here long enough?

I think it would be good for the scientifically minded to continue to respond to the denialist camp for the benefit of nubies and the unconvinced, but perhaps in the new thread we could just ignore anyone who isn't being conscious.
 

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It is surprising that so many people just won't accept even the obvious science done by local universities and responsible government agencies.
What are the irresponsible government agencies upto these days? Playing 3 card Monty and sipping mojitos?