Edmonton teacher suspended for giving 0s

Beenthere

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Yah, but you're down East where they still demand respect and hard work.


This pendulum, now in swing, in the direction of no effort required, will swing back eventually. Maybe too late, if Johnny can't add 2 + 2 = 7

eh.

You might want to check out Twitter: Twitter Seems 2 more Science teachers from the same school have been suspended for supporting Dorval. So much for supporting students just before Provincial Exams!!!
 

Niflmir

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"has been giving the mark for work that wasn't handed in or tests not taken"
Makes sense. If someone hires you to do something in the real world and you don't do it, what's the usual result? No paycheck.

Carrying the analogy over, wouldn't that mean that they just don't receive a grade on the homework assignment? Education and labor are quite different things in my view, especially given the fact that homework would be the equivalent of overtime. It is a bad analogy... but all analogies are.

I remember asking teachers to tell me what the homework would be at the beginning of class so I could finish them during class while the teacher was going over the answers to all the previous homework question. I had all the right answers anyways, not being told before hand wasted the class time for me and the time that I would have to spend at home doing the homework. I often chose not to do the homework since the tests were worth enough to give me a proper grade.

In that school, I easily would have had a 95%+ in all classes without ever doing any homework. If a grade is supposed to be representative of ability, then probably the school is on to something.
 

L Gilbert

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Carrying the analogy over, wouldn't that mean that they just don't receive a grade on the homework assignment?
That's a possibility, too, but as homework and exams and assignments all contribute towards a final grade, incompleted ones still have an impact on the final grade.
Education and labor are quite different things in my view, especially given the fact that homework would be the equivalent of overtime. It is a bad analogy... but all analogies are.
Yes, I am aware of that. Still effective sometimes, though, and in the very least, education is supposed to contribute towards employment.

I remember asking teachers to tell me what the homework would be at the beginning of class so I could finish them during class while the teacher was going over the answers to all the previous homework question. I had all the right answers anyways, not being told before hand wasted the class time for me and the time that I would have to spend at home doing the homework. I often chose not to do the homework since the tests were worth enough to give me a proper grade.
I was often bored in school, too, but I always handed in work.

In that school, I easily would have had a 95%+ in all classes without ever doing any homework. If a grade is supposed to be representative of ability, then probably the school is on to something.
Pretty much.
 

hermanntrude

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So, in gradeless education, how do you make sure the student is, in fact, getting an education?

In my opinion, if the kid is being educated, he/she will appear to enjoy school, start to seek out knowledge, question things, form hypotheses, ask intelligent questions and generally seem less irritating and more decisive.

Oh and they might get good grades too. Although sometimes they get terrible ones because they annoy the teacher who is desperately trying to get them accept whatever bull**** they made up for a class without any supporting evidence or discussion for context.
 

Niflmir

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That's a possibility, too, but as homework and exams and assignments all contribute towards a final grade, incompleted ones still have an impact on the final grade. Yes, I am aware of that. Still effective sometimes, though, and in the very least, education is supposed to contribute towards employment.

I was often bored in school, too, but I always handed in work.

Pretty much.

It is not that I was bored. I actually enjoyed the school work. I just wanted to do it during school hours and not waste my evenings. Even to this day, I am still able to finish my work during work hours.

If school is supposed to prepare someone for the real world, it should give them a work ethic where they leave work at work and live a life when they go home. Regular homework just teaches bad work-life balance.