I'll check back in an hour to see what lame explanation you've concocted. Get busy Durpy.
Epic Anti-Global Warming Monologue
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Some back ground music while we wait for you to figure out your flaw....
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The hour is up.....
Maybe Cabbage will weigh in on this special case. He seems to have many of the answers to those questions that vex the common man
55 minutes by the forum software, but then math isn't a strong point of your's either.
Are you going to be brave or a coward? Let's hear what you think I've missed.
Yeah, because you were talking about transpiring plants and water vapour. The presence of ice crystals or water droplets won't change the capacity of air to hold the vapour you durpy fool. That fraction is fixed as a dependency on temperature and pressure. Unless of course you're growing plants at the point where all three phases can exist together. That's dubious, even for you.
Jeez you're Durpy.
You think water vapour can drive temperature change...it's the other way around. After Mount Pinatubo erupted the atmosphere cooled, and when it cooled the water vapour decreased in the entire column of the troposphere.
Do you ever get tired of failing?
Yes, you failed again. Unless of course you think most of the world's irrigated agriculture is growing year-round at 0.01°C. That would be an epic fail.
Hell no. It all falls to the ground as rain. The graph said so.
I can hear the google servers buzzing from here......
Sure, but ice crystals aren't water vapour. Ice crystals aren't a greenhouse gas. At the temperatures where you get ice crystals, there is very little water vapour left to trap the long-wave radiation. It's a complete red herring for someone who was mentioning irrigated farm land and water vapour as a forcing rather than a feedback.
In fact, the farther up you go, the lower the trend for warming is, because the heat is trapped in the lower part of the atmosphere.
Ok.
Does the presence of ice crystals have an affect on the models used? Or on anything of note?
The Donald Rumsfeld version of IPCC models...There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.
2.4.5.5 Uncertainties Due to Model Biases - AR4 WGI Chapter 2: Changes in Atmospheric Constituents and in Radiative Forcing
2.4.5.5 Uncertainties Due to Model Biases - AR4 WGI Chapter 2: Changes in Atmospheric Constituents and in Radiative Forcing
What models? It doesn't help Petey's model...:lol: Water as vapour is the only phase that is a greenhouse gas, it matters not if the rest of the water is liquid or ice, the fraction as vapour (which I said in earlier posts) remains fixed dependent on the pressure and temperature. Ice crystal or rain drop, it doesn't matter. The atmosphere will only hold so much water vapour as the phase diagram makes clear, which is the entire point of contention with Petros saying that water vapour can be the driver of temperature.
Sharpest Measurement Of Ice Crystals In Clouds Ever Will Help In Climate Modeling
Incomplete theories are awesome!
Irrigation isn't a source of non-CO2 driven water vapour?
Post #1595886 - Re: Epic Anti-Global Warming Monologue Bad mentalfloss
Does that mean you want your sock puppet to leave Fuzzy?
Does that mean you want your sock puppet to leave Fuzzy?
Yes, that what's you have. You're missing premises all over the place. It's not controversial to say clouds trap and reflect energy. It's not controversial to say irrigation will provide more water vapour. But you're jumping the shark with causality. When the global temperature dropped after Mount Pinatubo, the water vapour responded immediately:
http://chem.hamilton.edu/~gshields/publications/SodenWSR2002.pdf
There definitely was irrigated farm land when Pinatubo erupted. The temperature modulated how much vapour will persist, and it changed the cloud cover as well.
Look, I understand that you only parrot the science, and research of others. Without any understanding of the science at all.
So why don't you step out of the shill troll box and learn.
Hell you can even join in the conversation. If you're at all capable of being an honest participant.
