UN official sparks debate over Canadian food security

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I have an idea of where they can stuff that report. At least we can have some control where that money goes here in Canada unlike the developing nations where it is used to keep dictators plump.


I'd wager that if you polled Canadians on that proposal, you'd see an overwhelming degree of support. Makes me wonder though how the UN would take that news, would they go on the offensive to attempt to shame Canada into funding them more (the UN), or would they learn their lesson and shut their collective pie-holes and leave well enough alone?
 

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Own up to what?

Food security doesn't mean you have to starve.

No wonder the U.S. has such garbage standards.

You can't answer can you? You are simply unable to admit to the folly of the UN study and your thread.

So now you are trying to steer the argument away to something else. Something that is just as silly... food security.

How many Canadians die of starvation each year MF?
 

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I'd wager that if you polled Canadians on that proposal, you'd see an overwhelming degree of support. Makes me wonder though how the UN would take that news, would they go on the offensive to attempt to shame Canada into funding them more (the UN), or would they learn their lesson and shut their collective pie-holes and leave well enough alone?

We would be labelled as racists most likely and Bono would really hate us as he thinks it's our responsibility to remedy the worlds ills.
 

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I read the article that MF posted. So the conclusion here is that many of the poor in Canada are unable to feed themselves adequately and are oft times going to bed hungry?

What a load. That is just like them saying poor in the US are starving and millions of children are going to bed hungry when studies show that our "poor" are the most obese of all classes.

Like the mexican said in Generation Kill... White man creates so much excess that even the people who are poor are fat :lol:
 

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We would be labelled as racists most likely and Bono would really hate us as he thinks it's our responsibility to remedy the worlds ills.
Why doesn't Bono set himself up with a 100K a year trust, or better yet get a normal job based on his minimal education, sell off all his assets, and give everything away to the poor himself?
 

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We would be labelled as racists most likely and Bono would really hate us as he thinks it's our responsibility to remedy the worlds ills.

Maybe Bono can take the lead on fixing this most perplexing issue...

I know, he can supply all of the affected people with a pair of giant, gaudy sunglasses that even Elvis wouldn't have worn back in the day, then they too can see the world through Bono's rose colored glasses.
 

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Why doesn't Bono set himself up with a 100K a year trust, or better yet get a normal job based on his minimal education, sell off all his assets, and give everything away to the poor himself?

I've asked my self the same thing. His ego might have something to do with it.
 

captain morgan

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Why doesn't Bono set himself up with a 100K a year trust, or better yet get a normal job based on his minimal education, sell off all his assets, and give everything away to the poor himself?

I've asked my self the same thing. His ego might have something to do with it.


Sorry guys, but I must disagree with you there... Bono is far too important to make any sacrifices, why how would he ever come up with the raft of ingenious ideas if he was unable to sit in a big comfy chair in one of his castles with a roaring fire on a cold winter night... And it's not just me that supports this premise, just ask Bono - he'll tell you himself
 

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There are deaths from food inadequate; starvation if you will and the insubstantial nature of the food that the poor have to eat. Deaths from actual starvation are probably not too many but they do happen. The number is probably incalculable since many poorer people who might well be considered food deprived, if not actually starving, die fromother related problems. Like heart or diabetic problems brought on by poor diet and hunger.

Where the middle classes have fruit and vegetables and fruit juices, the poor have ground beef and sweet soda drinks. They cannot afford a healthy diet. The greater rate of obesity is no mystery and has been written about by many organisations and researchers.

Incidentally, I recall reading some years ago that the number who died of starvation in the USA was in the hundreds - low hundreds if I recall correctly.

With regard to this report, it should be remembered that the UN investigator was invited here by the government to do just what he did. As always with this government, if the message does not accord with their wishes they kill the messenger.

No matter what the issue.

As for the foreign generosity, it does not exist. Canada is at the lower end of donors to foreign aid and it has been cut by the CPC and is being cut further in this phony Budget Bill. More than that, the number of countires that are recipient of one aspect of our aid has been limited to those who agree with Harper and criminalise abortion.
 

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Right.

But apparently some believe that our standard should be starvation.

Groups call for Canada-wide policy on food security

EMC news - Community organizations outlined the challenges faced by low-income earners when it comes to finding their next meal during a meeting with a United Nations special rapporteur in Ottawa on May 8.

Just Food and the Ottawa Poverty Reduction Network, two such organizations, discussed the lack of food security and the quality of the food available to struggling families with Olivier De Schutter, the UN special rapporteur working on a report on the right to food,.

"From the ground, what we are seeing is an increase in disparity," said Cathleen Kneen, director of Just Food. "We need a national treatment to this problem."

Linda Lalonde from the Ottawa Poverty Reduction Network demonstrated to De Schutter the current food security situation in Ottawa.

Three baskets were on the table next to De Schutter, one from a food bank, set to feed a family of four for one week, the second was a basket full of nutritious food for the same family, with a value of $120. The third basket was a good food box, which offers a family fruit and vegetables for one month for the cost of $10.

Lalonde said she hoped something could be done to ensure that proper nutrition plays a part in the UN report. In response, De Schutter said he believes it should play a part.

In an informal address to the audience, De Schutter said poor nutrition's cost on the health care system is huge and is influenced significantly by the treatment of the many side effects of high sodium and high carbohydrate diets typical of food bank offerings.

De Schutter first wrote a UN report addressing the need for food security in 2008. At the time, he said Canada committed to following the recommendations in the report, but as he understands it, there has not been an effective follow up.

He said he formally asks different countries all over the world to participate in his study.

"To Canada's credit, they have agreed to this visit and loyally co-operated in this," De Schutter said.

Canada is the first developed country to participate in a visit from De Schutter.

"The message I am sending is all countries have problems and everyone has the right to food," De Schutter said.

His final report will be presented in March 2013.

De Schutter visit in Canada ends on May 16. At that time, he promised Lalonde and Kneen he promised he would share a preliminary report on Canada, in which case, he said he hopes will be more effective for the government to address their country's situation.

"I am optimistic if pressure is built, things can be achieved." De Schutter said.

http://www.emcottawaeast.ca/20120517/news/Groups+call+for+Canada-wide+policy+on+food+security
 
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There are deaths from food inadequate; starvation if you will and the insubstantial nature of the food that the poor have to eat.

That the poor have to eat? There is not enough healthy food for them to eat?

Deaths from actual starvation are probably not too many but they do happen.

Oh please then. Feel free to enlighten us on how many Canadians die of starvation each year.

The number is probably incalculable since many poorer people who might well be considered food deprived, if not actually starving, die fromother related problems. Like heart or diabetic problems brought on by poor diet and hunger.

Poor diet... yes.

But how many deaths from starvation and hunger?

Where the middle classes have fruit and vegetables and fruit juices, the poor have ground beef and sweet soda drinks. They cannot afford a healthy diet. The greater rate of obesity is no mystery and has been written about by many organisations and researchers.

BULL. What a crock. The poor in Canada do not have money for fruits and veggies?

Incidentally, I recall reading some years ago that the number who died of starvation in the USA was in the hundreds - low hundreds if I recall correctly.

I'd like to see that study and see the reasonings. Cases of neglect should not have any bearing on the topic of the poor not having access to food. There are no people in the US or Canada starving to death for any reason BUT neglect.

Right.

But apparently some believe that our standard should be starvation.

Groups call for Canada-wide policy on food security

Red Herring

How many people die of starvation in Canada.
 

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Anyone who thinks they can cure a child of buying candy by giving them more money is either a child also, or very likely has an agenda.
There comes a time in every progression of humanity where we learn that self reliance was discriminated against to the point where nature took over and thumbed it's nose at the socialists.
 

EagleSmack

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Learn how to read:

Oooooo.... touchy today are you?

lol.