NASA: Tar sands is the "dirtiest of fuels"
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Climate science is the study of climate. Just as political science is the study of politics.
Unfortunately, those, who like you, have an axe to grind, have confused the two and have injected politics into climate. Thus, creating a media mud pool as filthy as the Tar Sands and thereby misleading the public over what is at stake.
Unfortunately, those, who like you, have an axe to grind, have confused the two and have injected politics into climate. Thus, creating a media mud pool as filthy as the Tar Sands and thereby misleading the public over what is at stake.
Sounds really ominous... 2017 you say? Well, that's just around the corner. I'll bet that Hansen has a solution, and with a little more funding to his group, NASA can come up with a solution lickety-split.
Now, that Heir Hansen has delivered his expert proclamation on humanity's excesses, maybe he can tackle the major emitters of this terrible, planet killing gas called CO2. Ya see, I'm not so worried about all the oil consumed, no sir. What worries me to no end is the fatal carbon imbalances caused when lightening sets-off massive forest fires or the vast emissions from volcanoes.
Climatology. Is that an offshoot of Scientology?
Far as I am concerned the US is free to freeze in the dark. Regardless of what their outsized egos think there are other markets in the world and many of them have CASH.
Nothing wrong with dirt worshiping. Many of us make good money moving it around. As for hugging trees , we have machines that are made to give them a little hug on their way to the sawmill. I OTH like hugging the cheque the mill gives me for them. Has a much nicer feel than cold wet bark.
And those of you with an agenda against the oilsands should also keep to your field,The tarsands are mines,like the many hundreds around the world,its an open pit strip mine,why focus on them and not china or other parts of the world with notoriously brutal environmental policies? The tarsand are second to no one when it comes to the environment....bar none.The energy industry is my field and I can only laugh most times at the ignorance of most who have an agenda to shut them down or make them look like dirt.
It's in their mandate...NASA has three mission directorates; Aeronautics, Human Exploration and Operations, and Science. The Science directorate includes many satellites that study the Earth, our solar system, and the whole universe. It's part of their mission to study Earth, and they have some of the best satellites to do just that. Though really, it's not just NASA researchers that make use of the data from those satellites.
Many of the same clueless wonders rail against logging but at the same time demand access to the logging roads to go wondering off in the bush to view the sights. They don't mind using fossil fuels to get there either.
I hear ya,I have access to any roads in the bush in Alberta and BC for the powerlines running into B.C. We keep them all gated and locked now.So now any new roads we build(and we build lots) are reclaimed and put back to normal when we are done.I spend a couple weeks every spring trying to reclaim the damage done on forestry roads by quads and 4x4's,it is a never ending process as the peeps just chew the hell out of the environment.
2017 is what the consensus of the scientists who did the report for the Club of Rome predict. Within months of the same conclusion that the International Energy Association came to a few months ago - but that is a hotbed of "Socialists," is it not? The same time frame as several scientists and groups of scientists have given for the last few years.
Hansen, and thousands of scientists have been telling us what the solution is for more than a decade. As have the National Science Academies of every major nation. What is different now is that they are adding to this the warning that in a few years it will be too late. That, while there will still be time to avoid catastrophe, disaster is certain.
I don't think you need a response to "forest fires and volcanoes."
Whatever they do, at their worst, wrt carbon emissions,is not even a drop in the ocean. I am sure that has been pointed out in these forums before so I will not go into that foolish claim - unless you really do believe what you wrote.
Dude,ask any geoligist,the climate is changing,has been for millions of years and theres not a damn thing we can do about it.
aaagh, the good old days, when all these Alberta & Tar Sands bashers, haters & left-wing loons could be answered with one simple gesture.
Good'ol Ralph Klein
Good'ol Ralph Klein
Geologists know nothing about it. Climate scientists do
The climate has been stable for the past 21/2 million years, moving only within a range of a few degrees. That pattern has been broken and it is now moving faster than at any time in the Planet's existence. And it moving further out of the range than at any time in the past three million years. By the end of this century, the mean temperature will be higher than it was in the Permian more than three million years ago.
Then sea level was 25 metres higher than today.
That will take perhaps a thousand years to happen this time, but it is an absolute certainty that it will happen if we do not get a grip on ourselves very quickly.
That temperature took many thousands of years to change in that era. Now it is happening in little more than one century. That means that adaptation is not possible.
The last ice age wasent that long ago any geoligists can read sedimentary layers,thats more data then anyone would need to see the climate changes over the years.I'm not a geologist but I can show you eruptions from mt st. Helens here in the profile rock cuts and how the environment changed after these eruptions,sedimentary layers are like tree rings,they dont lie.
For instance a rock stringer in a coal seam shows a dust storm,some lasting years or centuries.
So you disaprove of cooperation concerning cosmological matters? It isn't the Olympics or the WHL, you know.
Seventy million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous, this part of Alberta would have been forest and swamp. Many of the plant fossils in this area from that time are relatives of plants found in modern day China and South America. A walk through UBC's Asian Garden with its dawn-redwoods, ginkgos and magnolias (or the future Araucaria Grove) can well be imagined as experiencing an environment not unlike the one roamed by the dinosaurs of the late Cretaceous.
Horseshoe Canyon is partially protected by The Nature Conservancy of Canada. The Nodwell family, particularly the late Leila Nodwell (interview and article), have contributed greatly to preserving the site.
I'm going to start a new addition to Botany Photo of the Day today - a link to an extra resource that I've found helpful to learn about botany, or photography, or some other topic. I figure if it's been useful to me, it might also be useful to you. I'm also going to bookmark and tag each link on this del.icio.us page.
Photography resource link: The Luminous Landscape - I particularly found the “Understanding Series” and “Essays” of value.
Horseshoe Canyon - Botany Photo of the Day
The world is an ever changing place..