Trayvon Martin: civil rights leaders call for Florida police chief to resign

Should George Zimmerman be arrested???

  • No. He acted in self defense

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Yes. Then let the legal system play out

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Dunno. No enough facts in this case yet

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • The USA is so Fukked up, where is the pop corn.

    Votes: 11 34.4%

  • Total voters
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Ocean Breeze

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this is splitting hairs now. What are the FACTS::

Zimmerman had a gun , when he should not have.

He followed Martin after being told not to.

He used a naughty word. (not as bad a killing Martin......but may have contributed to the motive)

He shot Martin. Martin died a bit later

No one has been charged. Yet in any other case.........this would classify as MURDER.

No reliable witnesses to verify anything Zimmerman says.

The victim is dead and cannot speak for himself.

The spin doctors are in full action mode.

THe media has gone crazy with this. (until the next one to go crazy over)

Everyone and his cat is being "interviewed"....... depending on which side the media is on.

The Martin family has suffered a huge loss.

Zimmerman has made his mark with the tabloids and is currently a household name.

He IS guilty of shooting and KILLING Martin. the only thing to be determined is the motive and what the appropriate charges would be.

Miss anything???

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Colpy: Yes.......he could have wounded Martin without killing him. (it happens with monotonous regularity) IF he knew how to handle the gun . But the gun SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN there to begin with.
 

CDNBear

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What are the FACTS::
You wouldn't be able to recognize them if they hit you in the face.

Zimmerman had a gun , when he should not have.
Can you provide something to corroborate that please.

He followed Martin after being told not to.
Not proven.

He used a naughty word. (not as bad a killing Martin......but may have contributed to the motive)
Again, not proven.

He shot Martin. Martin died a bit later
OMG, you got something right!

No one has been charged. Yet in any other case.........this would classify as MURDER.
Depending on the circumstances.
No reliable witnesses to verify anything Zimmerman says.
The Police seem to think differently.

The victim is dead and cannot speak for himself.
If the victim were alive, do you think he would corroborate Zimmerman's testimony?

The spin doctors are in full action mode.
I didn't know you had an action mode.

THe media has gone crazy with this. (until the next one to go crazy over)
Another fact!!! Wow that's two now.

Everyone and his cat is being "interviewed"....... depending on which side the media is on.
My cats smarter than Jimmy, but the Cops never ask him for his testimony on anything.

The Martin family has suffered a huge loss.
With some nice capital gains.

Zimmerman has made his mark with the tabloids and is currently a household name.
And a marked man.

He IS guilty of shooting and KILLING Martin. the only thing to be determined is the motive and what the appropriate charges would be.
Should be interesting to see what the Grand Jury conjures up.

Miss anything???
Yes.
 

skookumchuck

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Blacks say "effin honkie" all the time, that does not mean that they intend to kill. Some peeps use mighty thin logic to advance a position.
 

SLM

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It's not that easy to tell is it? On two of the three filters I hear coons. On the original and one of the filters it's too close to call. I'm sure an audio engineer could use the whole tape, and compare the word in question to other words using the contested sounds.
Can we even be sure he's actually saying anything? I know it sounds like that's what he's saying, I think I hear the same things you do. But I seem to remember something I saw in a documentary one time about how the human brain will interpret random noise as a language. It's just wired that way. Something about finding or making a pattern out of chaos or some such.
Anyway, I've listened a couple of times and honestly it could be that he's saying coons, it could be absolutely nothing. I think it's impossible to tell for sure just by listening.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Watching this topic on the telie at the moment . FBI are examing the scream (for help) on the tape.

They just played the audio tape .......and its rather damning. It illustrates that Zimmerman did a number of things that were wrong and the ended up in an unnec death.

The tape indicates that Martin was running AWAY from Zimmerman. It also says that the dispatcher told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.

Whatever took place between the call to dispatcher, and the killing is not clear.
 

Locutus

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lol...I told y'all he said 'coon' on the tape way back on page 1.

Anyway, that ain't a crime, just a sign of an ignorant Hispanic perhaps chest-puffing and posturing to a female 911 operator (not the police by the way).

If the shooters name was Raul Gonzalez this would have never made the news. Just because he has a white sounding name everyone goes apesh!t and screams hate crime.

If a white dood had killed Zim the busybody, he would have definitely been Hispanic. The media is playing the whole world man.

But hey, if ol' George is a white-hispanic (Peruvian-American), then Barry is a white-black (mulatto).


Media and their lefty fanboys are laffin' all the way to the bank at the madness.

Then again, maybe the young turks altered the audio. Buddy might have said 'I like Turtles'.
 

EagleSmack

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If the shooters name was Raul Gonzalez this would have never made the news. Just because he has a white sounding name everyone goes apesh!t and screams hate crime.

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NOOOOO Question! Black on Black, Latino on Black, (visa versa), etc and Everyone on White crimes are perfectly acceptable.

They saw the name George Zimmeran and went NUTS! Now they can't stop what they've started so they are making the Hispanic "White".

The Hispanic Community must be laughing their heads off....

"They're blaming it on the gringos!"
 

Ocean Breeze

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Last thing I read said he was self-appointed.

As in volunteer. That is what I heard too. One of the leaders of Neighborhood watch indicated very clearly that their members (volunteering or appointed ) are NOT ALLOWED to CARRY GUNS.

that seems to be Zimmermans first mistake.

IF he was not equipped for the job, he should not have been doing it. "equipped" as in emotionally mature, showing responsible and mature judgement , Not making emotional or fear based decisions .

It is being said........that this was a fear based act. ( as in emotional )
 

CDNBear

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lol It's the U.S. of A., Bear. What would you expect? lol
Not that, anywhere.

As in volunteer. That is what I heard too. One of the leaders of Neighborhood watch indicated very clearly that their members (volunteering or appointed ) are NOT ALLOWED to CARRY GUNS.
You keep saying that, but haven't offered anything to support it.

Me either. But the 911 recording is just a little part of the evidence.
I agree. It isn't looking good for George.
 

L Gilbert

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Can we even be sure he's actually saying anything? I know it sounds like that's what he's saying, I think I hear the same things you do. But I seem to remember something I saw in a documentary one time about how the human brain will interpret random noise as a language. It's just wired that way. Something about finding or making a pattern out of chaos or some such.
Anyway, I've listened a couple of times and honestly it could be that he's saying coons, it could be absolutely nothing. I think it's impossible to tell for sure just by listening.
Yep. That's up to lawyers' pissing match to get the jury to believe one way or the other.
 

Ocean Breeze

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This topic is on Dr.Drew with Bill Mahr as guest. at the moment.

Martins Lawyer is on too. Could get interesting.