Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'

Tonington

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Read Fluke's speech - in this she recognizes that insurance coverage for birth control pills for the purpose of medically (ie ovarian cysts) required reasons IS covered.

Sometimes. She notes it is sometimes covered. Her friend was denied despite her doctor's confirmation of the necessity in preventing ovarian cyst formation. A point you continually fail to note. The policy isn't working if even after the doctor confirms the medical necessity, the claim is denied.

Derp
 

CDNBear

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Ahhh, so women shouldn't have to simply keep their legs crossed as a form of birthcontrol?? You agree that they should be free to have some say re coverage of group insurance, they pay for without interference from a religious institution??

Say so in writing & I will apologize.
I don't have to. You accused me of something that I have not said.

I don't care if you apologize or not.

But I do know whatever you do, it says more about you than I.

Especially after your comment...

Please.......have some regard for actual facts.
 

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Read Fluke's speech - in this she recognizes that insurance coverage for birth control pills for the purpose of medically (ie ovarian cysts) required reasons IS covered.

Hence the reason that Fluke uses the term contraceptive throughout her address, she is looking for contraceptive coverage in addition to the medical reasons.

But, she isn't paying for that coverage now, is she?

Just cause you buy auto insurance that has PDLP, doesn't mean that it magically transforms into a comprehensive policy the moment that you are in an accident.

Except that the policy only covers it if after being interrogated by non-medical personnel, they decide that it actually is necessary. In a case where it was medically necessary: ovarian cysts, it was not covered. This is the tell that I am talking about.

As for the policy that Fluke is paying for, certainly it doesn't cover contraceptives, but I certainly wasn't implying that it did. I was implying that she was paying for insurance which does cover prescription drugs already, so if the government did mandate that insurance cover "birth control pills", the government would still not be paying for the policy (she would be) and therefore the government/taxpayers would not be paying her to have sex. Therefore calling her a prostitute is completely ridiculous, ergo, why it is a tell for Limbaugh (or anyone else) to say such a thing.
 

bluebyrd35

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I don't have to. You accused me of something that I have not said.

I don't care if you apologize or not.

But I do know whatever you do, it says more about you than I.

Especially after your comment...

Yes, I did accuse you of something you did not say!! I accused you of NOT denying, you agree that women should abstain from sex....you know, merely keep their legs closed as a birthcontrol method.

LOL......Yup makes me look really good!!
 

CDNBear

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Yes, I did accuse you of something you did not say!!
That's the first honest thing I've seen you post on here.

I accused you of NOT denying, you agree that women should abstain from sex....you know, merely keep their legs closed as a birthcontrol method.
No, you didn't. You straight up accused me of saying something, I didn't say. Here, maybe you should take a look at it one more time...

...why,your solution could revolutionize marriage and control the population to extinction. I guess you did miss the fact that the University's insurance policy applied to Employees and Staff as well as the student body??

I wonder how the married personnel would feel about your ill-conceived solutions to unwanted pregnancies. (Aside from husbands keeping their zippers up and wives keeping their legs crossed?? )

LOL......Yup makes me look really stupid!!
FIFY.
 

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Quote: Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35
...why,your solution could revolutionize marriage and control the population to extinction. I guess you did miss the fact that the University's insurance policy applied to Employees and Staff as well as the student body??

I wonder how the married personnel would feel about your ill-conceived solutions to unwanted pregnancies. (Aside from husbands keeping their zippers up and wives keeping their legs crossed?? )

Sorry luv, but the portion in brackets is not a quote of yours, and is not used as such. I was asking you how "married personnel" would feel about your ill-conceived solutions. It must be assumed you completely agreed with these solutions, as you very pointedly avoided denying agreement of them..

Besides, the " men keeping their zippers up" are my words from a previous post. It was in answer to the remark about women keeping their legs closed.

So deny this is your opinion, or put up with my assumptions.

 
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CDNBear

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Sorry luv, but the portion in brackets is not a quote of yours, and is not used as such.
I know it's not a quote of mine. It's a quote of yours, where you accused me of saying something I have not said.

I was asking you how "married personnel" would feel about your ill-conceived solutions.
Ya, I can put a question mark at the end of a statement too. But I hate doing stupid things.

It must be assumed you completely agreed with these solutions, a you very pointedly avoided denying agreement of them..
No, it should be assumed that I haven't offered an opinion. Anything you put forth is speculation.

Which is odd for someone who was whining about sticking to the facts.

Besides, the " men keeping their zippers up" are my words from a previous post. It was in answer to the remark about women keeping their legs closed.
Awesome, I never said women should keep their legs closed. All I did was correct your fallacious claim that women do not have access to contraception, as cheaply or easily as men.

So deny this is your opinion, or put up with my assumptions.
I don't have to, watching you make an ass of yourself is entertaining.
 

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Sometimes. She notes it is sometimes covered. Her friend was denied despite her doctor's confirmation of the necessity in preventing ovarian cyst formation. A point you continually fail to note. The policy isn't working if even after the doctor confirms the medical necessity, the claim is denied.

Derp

Was the denial a correct application of policy, or was her friend denied in error? Just askin.
 

Tonington

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Was the denial a correct application of policy, or was her friend denied in error? Just askin.

The doctor confirmed the medical necessity of the prescription...if the policy allows for medical exemptions, and the doctor confirmed that indeed the prescription was medically necessary because this woman was prone to cyst development, and the prescription still wasn't covered, it is not a correct application of the policy. She was denied repeatedly. She couldn't afford the prescription on her own, and she had to stop taking the pills. Then she was hospitalized when a cyst the size of a tennis ball formed on her ovary, and she needed surgery to have the ovary removed. Oh, and she's a lesbian. Now she's going through early menopause which onset after the surgery, at 32 years old.

Covering the birth control would have prevented a whole lot of cost to that insurance policy...and prevented a whole lot of unnecessary pain and debilitation. But at least no Catholics had to stop practicing denial of the oral contraceptive pill to women.

If you read her testimony she brings up a few other cases as well.
 

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Sometimes. She notes it is sometimes covered. Her friend was denied despite her doctor's confirmation of the necessity in preventing ovarian cyst formation. A point you continually fail to note. The policy isn't working if even after the doctor confirms the medical necessity, the claim is denied.

Derp

So what? Fluke describes a circumstance where someone was denied coverage?... Do you know both sides of that story or is the info provided exclusively by Fluke the definitive description.

Claims on insurance policies get denied everyday, sometimes that denial is valid and other times it is not.

Like I mentioned to you recently, start organizing and paying for your own policies and you'll learn this reality.

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Except that the policy only covers it if after being interrogated by non-medical personnel, they decide that it actually is necessary. In a case where it was medically necessary: ovarian cysts, it was not covered. This is the tell that I am talking about.

See above.

As for the policy that Fluke is paying for, certainly it doesn't cover contraceptives, but I certainly wasn't implying that it did. I was implying that she was paying for insurance which does cover prescription drugs already, so if the government did mandate that insurance cover "birth control pills", the government would still not be paying for the policy (she would be) and therefore the government/taxpayers would not be paying her to have sex. Therefore calling her a prostitute is completely ridiculous, ergo, why it is a tell for Limbaugh (or anyone else) to say such a thing.

Fine, you want to the gvt to mandate that coverage, that's all well and fine with me, but as you are most likely aware, the cost for that coverage gets passed directly along to Fluke et al, so really, what has she accomplished? In fact, if that policy change is mandated, the costs for those women that don't want/need birth control pills will also increase to pay for Fluke's demands - is that fair to them? Will Fluke then run off at the mouth about the inequities of charging those folks? What about IUD's and condoms - that's a natural progression in the logic - does it make sense?

The doctor confirmed the medical necessity of the prescription...if the policy allows for medical exemptions, and the doctor confirmed that indeed the prescription was medically necessary because this woman was prone to cyst development, and the prescription still wasn't covered, it is not a correct application of the policy. She was denied repeatedly. She couldn't afford the prescription on her own, and she had to stop taking the pills. Then she was hospitalized when a cyst the size of a tennis ball formed on her ovary, and she needed surgery to have the ovary removed. Oh, and she's a lesbian. Now she's going through early menopause which onset after the surgery, at 32 years old.

Covering the birth control would have prevented a whole lot of cost to that insurance policy...and prevented a whole lot of unnecessary pain and debilitation. But at least no Catholics had to stop practicing denial of the oral contraceptive pill to women.

If you read her testimony she brings up a few other cases as well.

What a crock of sh*t... You've morphed from an anomaly/problem with the insurance company to blaming all Catholics... Nice little agenda there, but just for fun, please tell us how the Catholic Church conspired to harm this individual. I'm sure that it's a tale worthy of a Dan Brown novel

By the way, does Fluke's story (which could be fiction as far as we know) that details 1 circumstance justify altering an entire nation? Only a fool would seek that means to an end.
 

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I haven't looked through all the posts in this thread, so it may have been posted already, but this is some crazy shiit so I'm going to post it again...

Arizona Birth Control Bill Penalizes Women For Using Contraception For Non-Medical Reasons

Under current law, health plans in Arizona that cover other prescription medications must also cover contraception. House Bill 2625, which the state House of Representatives passed earlier this month and the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsed on Monday, repeals that law and allows any employer to refuse to cover contraception that will be used "for contraceptive, abortifacient, abortion or sterilization purposes." If a woman wants the cost of her contraception covered, she has to "submit a claim" to her employer providing evidence of a medical condition, such as endometriosis or polycystic ovarian syndrome, that can be treated with birth control.
Moreover, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the law would give Arizona employers the green light to fire a woman upon finding out that she took birth control for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

This is a whole new level of crazy!!
 

Tonington

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So 1 in 5 women are denied their prescription even with valid conditions for the policies exception. That's a problem. So what? :roll:

What a crock of sh*t... You've morphed from an anomaly/problem with the insurance company to blaming all Catholics.

You're such a drama queen sometimes. The issue in this case is not religious freedoms? Pretty sure that's what you said it was.

Nice little agenda there, but just for fun, please tell us how the Catholic Church conspired to harm this individual.

Why would I indulge your strawman? Grow up. Or act your age. You're being juvenile.
 

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So 1 in 5 women are denied their prescription even with valid conditions for the policies exception. That's a problem. So what? :roll:



You're such a drama queen sometimes. The issue in this case is not religious freedoms? Pretty sure that's what you said it was.



Why would I indulge your strawman? Grow up. Or act your age. You're being juvenile.
Why is a scientist that is interested in fish spend so much time and effort on the contraception issues
in another country.
And with the 30% subsidy from the Canadian taxpayer yet.
I think you have an agenda,were as before I only thought you a globull warming accolate.
Which union do you work for?
 

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So 1 in 5 women are denied their prescription even with valid conditions for the policies exception. That's a problem. So what?

I see.. Is that like the statistic that deems that 4 outta 5 dentists recommend Trident?:roll:

I'm really curious; where did you get this stat? Relying on the accuracy of Fluke's statement will make you look even more foolish.


You're such a drama queen sometimes. The issue in this case is not religious freedoms? Pretty sure that's what you said it was.

But you are full of sh*t (again).. No drama in that. And no, the issue in this case is Fluke being too stupid and too cheap to assume accountability for her own personal costs related to her sex life.

Does it even register with you that her testimony leans almost entirely on the word contraceptive and NOT women's health?.. In the end - you want to read something more tangible into Fluke's message than what actually exists, hence your blind faith that she is focusing entirely on ovarian cysts and has nothing to do with just plain ole birth control.


Why would I indulge your strawman? Grow up. Or act your age. You're being juvenile.

As expected.. You have no argument and out comes the endless references to strawman... And I do like the grow up comment - it's especially hilarious coming from one that has shown little understanding of how the actual world works outside an academic setting.

Thanks for coming out
 

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I know it's not a quote of mine. It's a quote of yours, where you accused me of saying something I have not said.

Ya, I can put a question mark at the end of a statement too. But I hate doing stupid things.

No, it should be assumed that I haven't offered an opinion. Anything you put forth is speculation.

Which is odd for someone who was whining about sticking to the facts.

Awesome, I never said women should keep their legs closed. All I did was correct your fallacious claim that women do not have access to contraception, as cheaply or easily as men.

I don't have to, watching you make an ass of yourself is entertaining.

Yes, I accused you of not being honest and still do. I asked you outright and having more curves than a slinky going downstairs, as usual you have nothing to offer. Soo...suck up the speculation. Such a master of red herrings would make a good con man.

Now as to that fallacious claim re access to contraception as cheaply or easily as men. Remember 1000 condoms available @ $69.00, allowing for working late a few times, or just plain tired, that comes to less than $25.00 having sex just about daily. Women MUST undergo a vaginal exam - cost generally in the range of $250. For monthly renewal of prescription....$50.00 plus a month.

I make that $25.00 a year for a man, who can buy condoms either on line or over the internet, in contrast to $850.00 for a woman. I see your math and notion of easy, is much in the same category as your idea of honesty.

I just don't consider baiting, arguments with more curves than a snake winding it's way through dense underbrush, to my taste. So, I am taking a break from your idea of debate or discussion, and my opinion of the adult form of bullying.
 
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bluebyrd35

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Why is a scientist that is interested in fish spend so much time and effort on the contraception issues
in another country.
And with the 30% subsidy from the Canadian taxpayer yet.
I think you have an agenda,were as before I only thought you a globull warming accolate.
Which union do you work for?

What the hell????? Another old male fossil, I bet. Your opinions on the occupation, interests and questions about unions, have WHAT to do with women's contraceptives vs a scholastic institution trying to force Catholism on it's students through birthcontrol??

Met your match, huh?

He certainly has.....

Me, I am off from the beach in Daytona when bike week finishes, heading for the Keys with family.
 

DaSleeper

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He certainly has.....

Met your match, huh?

Notice the selective reading and comprehension that she is famous for???
 

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What the hell????? Another old male fossil, I bet. Your opinions on the occupation, interests and questions about unions, have WHAT to do with women's contraceptives vs a scholastic institution trying to force Catholism on it's students through birthcontrol??
Do you hate everything with a pecker?
Me, I am off from the beach in Daytona when bike week finishes, heading for the Keys with family.
Bike thieves?