The point, to me, that is being covered up by the climate debate is that all this man made pollution is killing people, causing a respiratory problem of epidemic proportions and who knows what other health issues that are costing industry in lost time and the health system billions. Arguing about whether or not climate change is affected by human activity is a smoke screen to cover up the real and immediate problems posed by industrial and domestic waste. Islands of garbage in our oceans are poisoning sea life and we are ingesting it. Millions of tons of crap in our air are choking all living things. Raising temperatures are cause more frequent and more deadly storms. But that is OK with some because it is inconsequenial to being able to be a mindless consumer of useless sh!t: bigger cars and trucks, bigger TV and a ton of electronic crap, bigger houses with bigger heating bills and more dams, nuke plants and coal fired, puke breathing plants, Oh yes, and that environmental wonder of wonders, the tar sands and fracking that allows natural gas to come out of your phucking water tap. But as long as some can afford to buy one more piece of garbage, everything is just honky dory. What a bunch of brain dead sheeple. Capitalism, Yay, yay, yay!