Conservative 'Robocalls' tricked voters in last election

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Do we have anything yet that rules out a prank by some nut job(s)?

Well Rae apparently wants to call an emergency debate on this, but the NDP will wait for the investigation by the RCMP (lol) and Elections Canada.. so I have a feeling we'll never truly know either way.
 

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Well Rae apparently wants to call an emergency debate on this, but the NDP will wait for the investigation by the RCMP (lol) and Elections Canada.. so I have a feeling we'll never truly know either way.

Well, I think it should start with some testicles being squeezed in a vice, and then the "singing" will start. Otherwise our "democratic" process will be on a par with Zimbabwe (I think that is Mugabbe's country, No)?
 

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Let's see the scripts

What we need to see now is the script that the Conservative Party supplied to Responsive Marketing Group. The party was able to produce one for the Cotler calls controversy; I'm assuming it has the one supplied to this firm too. In fact, let's see the scripts the Conservatives wrote for all the call centres. If it's all true information, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2012/02/script.html
 

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Whoever did this had access to voter lists across the country and knew which ridings were close. Since all the beneficiaries of this interference were conservatives, that narrows it down to a Conservative political strategist as being directly or indirectly involved. Its possible the trail could lead to the PMO.
 

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Whoever did this had access to voter lists across the country and knew which ridings were close. Since all the beneficiaries of this interference were conservatives, that narrows it down to a Conservative political strategist as being directly or indirectly involved. Its possible the trail could lead to the PMO.

If the trail leads to the P.M.O. then we've got the stupidest P.M. since old John A. and personally I'd be in favour of seeing him get 10 years in the Gulag. I don't believe it's going to play out that way, probably some lesser (stupider) light with big ambitions.
 

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If the trail leads to the P.M.O. then we've got the stupidest P.M. since old John A. and personally I'd be in favour of seeing him get 10 years in the Gulag. I don't believe it's going to play out that way, probably some lesser (stupider) light with big ambitions.

It will never reach that high.
 

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If the trail leads to the P.M.O. then we've got the stupidest P.M. since old John A. and personally I'd be in favour of seeing him get 10 years in the Gulag. I don't believe it's going to play out that way, probably some lesser (stupider) light with big ambitions.

PM's never get in trouble. From John A. to Chretien the only penalty they suffer is at the ballot box. Sometimes, not even then if they quit in time (Chretien).
 

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It should be interesting to watch the Dippers now, bet they already have a few boxes on the front steps at Sussex Drive! :lol:
 

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Someone lower down would throw themselves on their sword first. I doubt the PM was involved, but its likely its someone the PM knows... probably an overly enthusiastic Conservative back room person with no ethics. (Does that narrow it down?)
 

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It should be interesting to watch the Dippers now, bet they already have a few boxes on the front steps at Sussex Drive! :lol:

It depends. It could be that those conservatives who are involved get burned, while those Conservatives who weren't might escape unscathed.

As for the Dippers, if they're smart, they'll just let the police and elections Canada deal with it and themselves just focus on policy; any Dipper that just starts throwing accusations left right and centre and ends up accusing a conservative who wasn't involved, that could come back to haunt that Dipper too.

Liberal staffer behind 'Vikileaks' campaign - Politics - CBC News

Things seem to be getting that much messier, though I'm happily surprised at all the apologies, acceptance of apologies, and decorum in this article. This is how politicians ought to always behave.
 

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It should be interesting to watch the Dippers now, bet they already have a few boxes on the front steps at Sussex Drive! :lol:

Not the best time. There isn't even a permanent leader yet for the NDP or Liberals yet. And depending on how the vote goes next month the leader might not have a seat in parliament.
 

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Big deal.. that bill effects both Liberals and Conservatives.. I voted for Harper, and I own VicToewsSucks.com : Canadian Public Safety Minister Vic Toews

So what's your point?

Back to the topic of Robocalls - the issue is they swayed specific jurisdictions by deceiving voters to go to the wrong polls. What have we become, a banana republic?? That is just wrong and those jurisdictions should hold a re-vote. PERIOD!!
 

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Liberal staffer behind 'Vikileaks' campaign - Politics - CBC News

Things seem to be getting that much messier, though I'm happily surprised at all the apologies, acceptance of apologies, and decorum in this article. This is how politicians ought to always behave.

Indeed it was nice that Bob Rae came forward with this himself rather than have the press dig it up and force it out. Accept responsibility and move on. Thats the way it should be done.
 

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Someone lower down would throw themselves on their sword first. I doubt the PM was involved, but its likely its someone the PM knows... probably an overly enthusiastic Conservative back room person with no ethics. (Does that narrow it down?)

I can just hear Harper "I sure as hell don't like it, but it's entirely up to you and if you do it I'd better NEVER hear anything about it or your ass is outa here" :lol:

It depends. It could be that those conservatives who are involved get burned, while those Conservatives who weren't might escape unscathed.

As for the Dippers, if they're smart, they'll just let the police and elections Canada deal with it and themselves just focus on policy; any Dipper that just starts throwing accusations left right and centre and ends up accusing a conservative who wasn't involved, that could come back to haunt that Dipper too.

Liberal staffer behind 'Vikileaks' campaign - Politics - CBC News

Things seem to be getting that much messier, though I'm happily surprised at all the apologies, acceptance of apologies, and decorum in this article. This is how politicians ought to always behave.

Absolutely, Boob Rae is doing a good job for everyone & he probably figures everyone has forgotten he ran Ontario into the poor house.

I think there is a possiblity (possibly slim) that Boob Rae or someone else not connected to Harper, rigged the whole thing to make it appear to be the Conservatives. Like, only an idiot could think he/she wouldn't get caught, unless they camouflaged it so well to make it look like someone else. Keep a close eye on Harper - he's either sh*tting his drawers, or he's laughing like a hyena!
 

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Someone lower down would throw themselves on their sword first. I doubt the PM was involved, but its likely its someone the PM knows... probably an overly enthusiastic Conservative back room person with no ethics. (Does that narrow it down?)

Are you a high ranking back room Conservative who knows the PM?