Reduced amount of windings.
But nope. Your post made no sense: specifically you said "You can still good about your blender."
Climate Change - Coal the bad guy -Not oil or conventional gas.
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But nope. Your post made no sense: specifically you said "You can still good about your blender."
I am not a Climate Change denier. I do understand that Govts will not cause massive change that alters / lowers their citizens standard of living. Same with the BRIC's - They are the new economies that are growing fast. Along with that comes expectations when income increases. This along with the era of cheap food is over. As they have more disposable income, they alter thir eating habits. Hence a rise in prices - using food stuffs such as corn as Bio Fuels is idiotic.
I opened your link but could not find the article.
All of these are facts.
Do I like it, no, but it is the reality.
Shxt they are all fishing the oceans out and what have we seen over the past 30 years on cutbacks - sweet diddly is all we have seen
Reduced is vague.
If all copper mining stopped today the supply available including recycling is only 7 days.
If the next 10 years were dedicated to electric motors to replace the hundreds of millions of gasoline engines in North American vehicle how big of a jump in copper production would be needed to meet the demand even if the windings were reduced by 50%?
How many "oils sands sized" copper mines will it take to pull it off?
How Much Copper Is Used In A Wind Farm?
In 2006, CDA asked Oak Ridge National Laboratories (ORNL) to evaluate the use of copper in renewable energy sources. ORNL conducted an analysis on the Buffalo Mountain Wind Farm run by the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) and developed the following information.
The Buffalo Mountain Wind Farm has two types of turbines, Vestas Model V47 and Vestas Model V80. For the Vesta V47, a 660-kW turbine, the windings in the system total approximately 800 lb of copper. There are three of these turbines. Three 2/0 cables each 270 ft long connect the generator at the top of the tower to the controller below. Approximately 100 lb of copper busing are located at the base. In addition, the control cabinet contains about 300 lb of various small gauge wires. Each tower has a grounding system that consists of a 1/0 copper cable that runs the length of the tower. Several circular rings of this cable surround the tower. The base of the tower is about 39 ft. Three 20 ft long copper grounding rods, about 1/2” in diameter are associated with each tower.
There are 15 V80 turbines rated at 1.8 MW each. The cable connection is 4/0. The transfer cabinet contains about 15 lb of copper. From the transfer cabinet, either 2/0 or 3/0 cable conveys the energy underground to a switch yard or collection point. From there, aluminum overhead transmission cable distributes the energy away from the farm.
Obviously, the outstanding conductivity and durability of copper help make wind energy generation efficient and reliable. As the U.S. begins to focus more attention on renewable energy sources, copper will play an important role.
http://www.copper.org/environment/green/casestudies/wind_energy/wind_energy.html
P.S....just think of what the rare earth mines will do to the Athabasca Lake? Do you think it will be better or worse than the oilsands of present or good old Eldorado Nuclear of the past?
Great Western Minerals Group Ltd. Hoidas Lake, Saskatchewan
We'll gladly cut down and pollute thousands of sq km of SK boreal for uranium, copper and rare earth element mines for electric cars and wind turbines.
Go Green!!! Buy in today!
If all copper mining stopped today the supply available including recycling is only 7 days.
If the next 10 years were dedicated to electric motors to replace the hundreds of millions of gasoline engines in North American vehicle how big of a jump in copper production would be needed to meet the demand even if the windings were reduced by 50%?
How many "oils sands sized" copper mines will it take to pull it off?
How Much Copper Is Used In A Wind Farm?
In 2006, CDA asked Oak Ridge National Laboratories (ORNL) to evaluate the use of copper in renewable energy sources. ORNL conducted an analysis on the Buffalo Mountain Wind Farm run by the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) and developed the following information.
The Buffalo Mountain Wind Farm has two types of turbines, Vestas Model V47 and Vestas Model V80. For the Vesta V47, a 660-kW turbine, the windings in the system total approximately 800 lb of copper. There are three of these turbines. Three 2/0 cables each 270 ft long connect the generator at the top of the tower to the controller below. Approximately 100 lb of copper busing are located at the base. In addition, the control cabinet contains about 300 lb of various small gauge wires. Each tower has a grounding system that consists of a 1/0 copper cable that runs the length of the tower. Several circular rings of this cable surround the tower. The base of the tower is about 39 ft. Three 20 ft long copper grounding rods, about 1/2” in diameter are associated with each tower.
There are 15 V80 turbines rated at 1.8 MW each. The cable connection is 4/0. The transfer cabinet contains about 15 lb of copper. From the transfer cabinet, either 2/0 or 3/0 cable conveys the energy underground to a switch yard or collection point. From there, aluminum overhead transmission cable distributes the energy away from the farm.
Obviously, the outstanding conductivity and durability of copper help make wind energy generation efficient and reliable. As the U.S. begins to focus more attention on renewable energy sources, copper will play an important role.
http://www.copper.org/environment/green/casestudies/wind_energy/wind_energy.html
P.S....just think of what the rare earth mines will do to the Athabasca Lake? Do you think it will be better or worse than the oilsands of present or good old Eldorado Nuclear of the past?
Great Western Minerals Group Ltd. Hoidas Lake, Saskatchewan
We'll gladly cut down and pollute thousands of sq km of SK boreal for uranium, copper and rare earth element mines for electric cars and wind turbines.
Go Green!!! Buy in today!
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The special interest groups always amuse me alot when it comes to blame. Coal blames
gas and gas blames coal. They also come up with slick promotional ads showing the gas
companies leaving behind beautiful vistas after they are finished getting the gas out. The
only thing they don't show you is the mess underground where they poisoned the aquifer
and destroyed the environment from below.
There there is the biggest line of bull Clean Coal what a joke that is making people believe
there is such a thing. Its all words and finger pointing. I am not a rabid environmentalist
but I do believe we should not pollute the atmosphere anymore than we have to.
It must be understood, if we are going to have a functioning society we must accept a level
of risk and understand there will be damage. How much damage is the question here and
it must be determined how that is going to be managed. All they are going to do is exchange
words that mean nothing.
gas and gas blames coal. They also come up with slick promotional ads showing the gas
companies leaving behind beautiful vistas after they are finished getting the gas out. The
only thing they don't show you is the mess underground where they poisoned the aquifer
and destroyed the environment from below.
There there is the biggest line of bull Clean Coal what a joke that is making people believe
there is such a thing. Its all words and finger pointing. I am not a rabid environmentalist
but I do believe we should not pollute the atmosphere anymore than we have to.
It must be understood, if we are going to have a functioning society we must accept a level
of risk and understand there will be damage. How much damage is the question here and
it must be determined how that is going to be managed. All they are going to do is exchange
words that mean nothing.
But But But it's for your own good. Also any carbon credits you may pick up along the way are good for Al. Gore's bank account.
Do they have shares in a wind or solar manufacturer?
Only cash jobs. Otherwise the taxman bites.
Damn link did the same to me, too. So I just typed "Media coverage of oilsands prompts scientists' rebuke" into google search. It's the first entry.
Anyway, it's a delicate balance between acting responsibly towards our world and not messing up economies while doing so.
So? It's still a step in the right direction.
The oceans have absorbed so much GG that they are at a tipping for survival of a number of species. If we pass that tipping point the last time it occurred it took millions of years for the diversity to return.
The article I had read stated the GG had increased millions of years ago, over a period of a max of 10 k years. It took millions of years for the oceans to balance out. Once the species is gone. Thats it.
We cannot even agree on over fishing so carbon is not going to fly in my opinion.
Out of curiosity, compared to 2 miles of ice-cap and death or some carbon emissions to 'carve out a city in the ice' and life which would you choose?
I don't think that is what he was getting at. Do we continue down this path of materialist, capitalist insanity and trash the planet completely or do we branch off in a completely new direction? We have become separated from our connection to the source of our life, we are exploiting it and ourselves into oblivion in the vain attempt to fill the hole at the center of our being that this separation has created. We need a quantum paradigm shift and we need it now, not tomorrow.
Materialism is fine if the mater is in balance with the pater. The Earth is the mater so if you did dedicate yourself to the Earth you are being materialistic. When the world finds it's place between the mater and the pater all will be good but that's not going to happen until everyone accepts the pater.