Maryland Abortion Doctors Charged With Murder

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Many other animals kill their young. They even eat them. I guess humans are superior and shouldn't do as the rest of the animal kingdom. Humans have a divine right that, for some reason that escapes my understanding, all other living beings on this planet aren't privileged enough to to possess.
I guess I should have pumished my gerbils back when I was a kid and they ate their young.
 
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eh1eh said:
Many other animals kill their young. They even eat them. I guess humans are superior and shouldn't do as the rest of the animal kingdom. Humans have a divine right that, for some reason that escapes my understanding, all other living beings on this planet aren't privileged enough to to possess.
I guess I should have pumished my gerbils back when I was a kid and they ate their young.
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Young cats and pigs also eat their young. Cows probably would but they lack the teeth to do so. Actually humans have always killed their young, just very rarely do they eat them.

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To the religious fanatics using contraceptives is a sin. So is sex for fun. But butt****ing little boys is OK for their leaders.
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Yes and they never have to use the notoriously flawed rhythm system!! Women who use birth control and abortion, are considered sinners or murderers. Now, those who have made the female reproductive system their business, believe molesting little boys, is simply a matter of shuffling those butt*****rs into a new marketplace. Oddly enough those who make the most noise about child abusers are right in the forefront in condemnation of homosexuals and female right to dominion over their bodies.

What is the answer?? Making it a priority to develop a method whereby, a male anti-abortionist would be forced to receive and bring to term a fertilized human egg. Of course, they must be responsible for the care and support of the egg for their lifetime.
 
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To the religious fanatics using contraceptives is a sin. So is sex for fun. But butt****ing little boys is OK for their leaders.
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No it's not, but you're too brain dead to realize it. I'm sure you would PREFER that buttholing little kids was ok.

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Young cats and pigs also eat their young. Cows probably would but they lack the teeth to do so. Actually humans have always killed their young, just very rarely do they eat them.



Yes and they never have to use the notoriously flawed rhythm system!! Women who use birth control and abortion, are considered sinners or murderers. Now, those who have made the female reproductive system their business, believe molesting little boys, is simply a matter of shuffling those butt*****rs into a new marketplace. Oddly enough those who make the most noise about child abusers are right in the forefront in condemnation of homosexuals and female right to dominion over their bodies.

What is the answer?? Making it a priority to develop a method whereby, a male anti-abortionist would be forced to receive and bring to term a fertilized human egg. Of course, they must be responsible for the care and support of the egg for their lifetime.
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Really? There is so much wrong with the above post it is unbelievable.
 
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It would have made the starting point of any debate on any legal prohibitions on abortion be that you are discussing the life of a genetically complete human being, conceived in its full human potential by God,
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....but physiologically incomplete. A single cell is genetically complete. Is it a human, or just a human cell?
It doesn't have full potential if it isn't able to survive outside the womb
Evidence?
Oh, shucks, there goes a large chunk of your debate ammo.

Despite a massive campaign against it, and its defeat being portrayed as 'overwhelming' in the mainstream media.. it, in fact, garnered 45% of the vote.
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Based upon what? Religious dogma and rhetoric, not science or ethics.
This after decades of feminist babble of woman's health (a first time abortion has devastating health implications for the mother, increasing the liklihood of breast cancer and other diseases many fold), and the 'human right' of mothers to murder their infants has dominated, to the exclusion of any opposing opinion, the accepted ethos in the press, in educational and political discourse.
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Correction, "MAY have devastating health implications...." Being alive period, has potential to be devastating.

It showed me that the fundamental values on which Western civilization was built, and without which it will fracture and collapse, still resonates in substantial numbers. And appears in cases like the indictment of the doctors, which surface from time to time.
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Yeah, it's obvious that a lot of people are still hinging their opinion upon religious dogma and rhetoric, emotions, etc. instead of science and ethics.
A few people still think the glass is half full with respect to the future of the West, although i, truth be told, am quite pessimistic.
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Oh. Life's a bitch for you, I guess.
 
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If the right-to-lifers were as passionate about the abolition of capital punishment (USA) and working for peace (everywhere), they would gain my respect.

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Your avatar is hugely inconsistent.
 
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If the right-to-lifers were as passionate about the abolition of capital punishment (USA) and working for peace (everywhere), they would gain my respect.
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pro lifer is a misnomer. There are very few "pro lifers" but there are a hell of alot of anti abortionists. Just like pro choice is a misnomer. The baby has no choice in the matter.

I'd also like to add, that is it is the baby's who's life is the one that is the most profoundly effected by the "choice" being made.
 
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Spade said:
If the right-to-lifers were as passionate about the abolition of capital punishment (USA) and working for peace (everywhere), they would gain my respect.
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For the record I myself am against capital punishment, but you have to remember than an unborn child is innocent whereas a convicted murderer is not. Since that unborn child is completely innocent and hasn't even had a chance at life yet, you can see why the greater passion on protecting the sanctity of life for the unborn rather than the sanctity of life for a convict.
 
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For the record I myself am against capital punishment, but you have to remember than an unborn child is innocent whereas a convicted murderer is not. Since that unborn child is completely innocent and hasn't even had a chance at life yet, you can see why the greater passion on protecting the sanctity of life for the unborn rather than the sanctity of life for a convict.
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If you're talking about the "sanctity of life", it matters not who's life.
 
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SLED: Defend the Unborn with Scott Klusendorf - YouTube
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wow I am sure impressed by this soundclip of a guy that is practised in debating the issue winning an argument (which he spins into his control) over a couple laypeople on a plane. (sarcasm)

No we are not. Our opinion IS based on science and ethics. It's YOUR opinion that is based on your atheist dogma, rhetoric, and emotions.
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Sorry, but I said a lot of people are hinging their opinions upon religious dogma, etc. I didn't say every one of you is.
So what is the atheist dogma and rhetoric? And what is it based upon?
Me, emotional? roflmao You got that right; I am amused.

So what gives anyone the right to sentence a mother to death to save her kid? And what gives anyone the right to sentence a kid to a very short life filled with nothing but pain and misery?
 
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L Gilbert said:
wow I am sure impressed by this soundclip of a guy that is practised in debating the issue winning an argument (which he spins into his control) over a couple laypeople on a plane. (sarcasm)

Sorry, but I said a lot of people are hinging their opinions upon religious dogma, etc. I didn't say every one of you is.
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You are just reasserting yourself instead of adding anything to the debate. Listen to the video again, pick its argument apart bit and bit and tell us how each point it makes is incorrect. S - L - E - D

So what gives anyone the right to sentence a mother to death to save her kid? And what gives anyone the right to sentence a kid to a very short life filled with nothing but pain and misery?
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So what gives anyone the right to sentence an unborn child to death to save the mother "inconvenience"? And what gives anyone the right to sentence a human being to death because we "think" it will have a life filled with pain and misery?

Down Syndrome people overwhelmingly tell us they are happy, yet thousands possibly millions of them are murdered in the womb because we put no value on a Down Syndrome life. Sad.
 
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L Gilbert said:
So what gives anyone the right to sentence a mother to death to save her kid? And what gives anyone the right to sentence a kid to a very short life filled with nothing but pain and misery?
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There's an exception to every rule and that one I agree with................save the mother. In many cases (with advances in medicine) we don't know how long a child will survive and the intensity of pain and misery!
 
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