I still don't believe in forced pregnancy and don't think I ever will, under any circumstances.
Maryland Abortion Doctors Charged With Murder
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A woman was designed for one main purpose. To make more people.
I don't see anyone standing at the door of GM smashing and destroying new vehicles as they come off the production line.
I don't see anyone standing at the door of GM smashing and destroying new vehicles as they come off the production line.
Not to mention cooking, cleaning the house, darning socks, feeding the chickens, cleaning the chicken coops, planting, weeding, and harvesting the garden, ironing the clothes and doing minor auto work like oil changes, changing a flat tire and a few others things.
Nor at Ford or Chrysler either.
I'm brain-dead....I gave you a greenie when I didn't intend to.......although you seem to be the only supporter of open-ended abortion "rights" here with the cojones to say so....I'll give you that.
The hesitation you display is the result of the inherent knowledge that killing a viable unborn child is simply wrong....indefensible. No matter how you try to reason it out.
36 weeks is term......please explain the difference between that and cutting the baby's throat after it is born???
Which they may have been doing...............wouldn't be the first time.
Be careful, I made reference to the same thing a couple of weeks ago and one idiot called me a coward. :lol::lol::lol:
I didn't have to deal with the CO-OP yardstick too often. Hot Wheels tracks were my mom's thing. When Igot the yardstick from grandma I cried just to make her feel good but I tell ya those Hot Wheels tracks sure got a lot of yard work and dishes done in a hurry.
Under what circumstances was it done? Unless there are some incredibly dire circumstances, a woman and her doctor won't be doing that. Of course it makes sense to deliver it and adopt out, if there aren't serious other issues. I suspect there is a huge untold story. And since the woman has ultimate authority of her own domain she has the final say.
They literally stop delivery at the last minute and stab the baby in the brain stem. Look it up.
Induced abortion chart
Possible reasons for late term:
Trisomy 21: Down Syndrome
Trisomy 13 & 18: mental retardation, 90 percent of babies born with it die before the age of 1.
Anencephaly: a severe head disorder, occurs when the head end of the neural tube fails to close, absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp. Children with this disorder are born without a forebrain, the largest part of the brain. The remaining brain tissue is often exposed—not covered by bone or skin.
Polycystic Kidney Disease: cysts on the babies kidney. It takes many years for this to cause the kidneys to fail and can be treated with dialysis or kidney transplantation. 600,000 people in the U.S. are living with PKD.
Spina Bifida: the most common permanently disabling birth defect in the U.S. The spine of the baby fails to close, he or she won’t be able to walk. 70,000 people in the U.S. are living with SB.
Hydrocephalus: there is an excessive amount of fluid in the brain. Infants experience vomiting, large head size, sleepiness, irritability, downward deviation of the eyes (“sunsetting”) and seizures. Older children and adults may experience different symptoms such as, headache followed by vomiting, nausea, papilledema (swelling of the optic disk which is part of the optic nerve), blurred or double vision, sunsetting, problems with balance, poor coordination, gait disturbance, urinary incontinence, slowing or loss of developmental progress, lethargy, drowsiness, irritability, or other changes in personality or cognition including memory loss. Hydrocephalus is very treatable.
Potter’s Syndrome: there is a total absence or malformation of infant kidneys. Vast majority of babies die at birth or shortly afterwards.
Lethal Dwarfism: this is very rare. Some symptoms are a large head, wide front fontanel, corneal clouding, closed off ear canals, and very short arms. Nearly half of the babies that have this die before they’re born.
Holoprosencephaly: In most cases, the brain does not divide into lobes, which severely deforms the skull and face. Sometimes the brain is partially or nearly divided, making the symptoms much less severe. In the absolute worst cases, the baby dies in the womb.
Anterior and Posterior Encephalocele: this complication leads to chromosomal anomaly, most common anomaly being Trisomy 18. Patients with an anterior encephalocele have a 100% survival rate, but only 55% in persons with a posterior encephalocele. Encephalocele reduces the chance of live birth to 21%, and only half of those live births survive. Approximately 75% of survivors have a mental deficit. The absence of brain tissue in the herniated sac is the single most favorable prognostic feature for survival.
Non-Immune Hydrops: Excess of extra-cellular fluid in two or more sites without any identifiable circulating antibody to red cell antigens. There are treatments to perform while the baby is still in the womb, however the prognosis is generally very poor with very high peri-natal mortality.
Possible reasons for late term:
Trisomy 21: Down Syndrome
Trisomy 13 & 18: mental retardation, 90 percent of babies born with it die before the age of 1.
Anencephaly: a severe head disorder, occurs when the head end of the neural tube fails to close, absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp. Children with this disorder are born without a forebrain, the largest part of the brain. The remaining brain tissue is often exposed—not covered by bone or skin.
Polycystic Kidney Disease: cysts on the babies kidney. It takes many years for this to cause the kidneys to fail and can be treated with dialysis or kidney transplantation. 600,000 people in the U.S. are living with PKD.
Spina Bifida: the most common permanently disabling birth defect in the U.S. The spine of the baby fails to close, he or she won’t be able to walk. 70,000 people in the U.S. are living with SB.
Hydrocephalus: there is an excessive amount of fluid in the brain. Infants experience vomiting, large head size, sleepiness, irritability, downward deviation of the eyes (“sunsetting”) and seizures. Older children and adults may experience different symptoms such as, headache followed by vomiting, nausea, papilledema (swelling of the optic disk which is part of the optic nerve), blurred or double vision, sunsetting, problems with balance, poor coordination, gait disturbance, urinary incontinence, slowing or loss of developmental progress, lethargy, drowsiness, irritability, or other changes in personality or cognition including memory loss. Hydrocephalus is very treatable.
Potter’s Syndrome: there is a total absence or malformation of infant kidneys. Vast majority of babies die at birth or shortly afterwards.
Lethal Dwarfism: this is very rare. Some symptoms are a large head, wide front fontanel, corneal clouding, closed off ear canals, and very short arms. Nearly half of the babies that have this die before they’re born.
Holoprosencephaly: In most cases, the brain does not divide into lobes, which severely deforms the skull and face. Sometimes the brain is partially or nearly divided, making the symptoms much less severe. In the absolute worst cases, the baby dies in the womb.
Anterior and Posterior Encephalocele: this complication leads to chromosomal anomaly, most common anomaly being Trisomy 18. Patients with an anterior encephalocele have a 100% survival rate, but only 55% in persons with a posterior encephalocele. Encephalocele reduces the chance of live birth to 21%, and only half of those live births survive. Approximately 75% of survivors have a mental deficit. The absence of brain tissue in the herniated sac is the single most favorable prognostic feature for survival.
Non-Immune Hydrops: Excess of extra-cellular fluid in two or more sites without any identifiable circulating antibody to red cell antigens. There are treatments to perform while the baby is still in the womb, however the prognosis is generally very poor with very high peri-natal mortality.
Induced abortion chart
Polycystic Kidney Disease: cysts on the babies kidney. It takes many years for this to cause the kidneys to fail and can be treated with dialysis or kidney transplantation. 600,000 people in the U.S. are living with PKD.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with that disease at age 33 and died a couple of years ago aged 76.
As the report said the timeline is somewhat misleading. By the normal measure of pregnancy it was 23.5 weeks. when an egg is fertilized the pregnancy is usually considered to be 2 weeks and 2-5 days along.
http://www.ivf.ca/duedate.php
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In Mississippi in November a ballot initiative that would deem all human life to have begun at conception, the only principle that is consistent with a Christian or theistic construct of Creation, was defeated by voters.
It would have made the starting point of any debate on any legal prohibitions on abortion be that you are discussing the life of a genetically complete human being, conceived in its full human potential by God, and therefor, having inalienable rights accorded by the U.S. Constitution.. instead of making that a trivial afterthought.
Despite a massive campaign against it, and its defeat being portrayed as 'overwhelming' in the mainstream media.. it, in fact, garnered 45% of the vote. This after decades of feminist babble of woman's health (a first time abortion has devastating health implications for the mother, increasing the liklihood of breast cancer and other diseases many fold), and the 'human right' of mothers to murder their infants has dominated, to the exclusion of any opposing opinion, the accepted ethos in the press, in educational and political discourse.
It showed me that the fundamental values on which Western civilization was built, and without which it will fracture and collapse, still resonates in substantial numbers. And appears in cases like the indictment of the doctors, which surface from time to time. A few people still think the glass is half full with respect to the future of the West, although i, truth be told, am quite pessimistic.
It would have made the starting point of any debate on any legal prohibitions on abortion be that you are discussing the life of a genetically complete human being, conceived in its full human potential by God, and therefor, having inalienable rights accorded by the U.S. Constitution.. instead of making that a trivial afterthought.
Despite a massive campaign against it, and its defeat being portrayed as 'overwhelming' in the mainstream media.. it, in fact, garnered 45% of the vote. This after decades of feminist babble of woman's health (a first time abortion has devastating health implications for the mother, increasing the liklihood of breast cancer and other diseases many fold), and the 'human right' of mothers to murder their infants has dominated, to the exclusion of any opposing opinion, the accepted ethos in the press, in educational and political discourse.
It showed me that the fundamental values on which Western civilization was built, and without which it will fracture and collapse, still resonates in substantial numbers. And appears in cases like the indictment of the doctors, which surface from time to time. A few people still think the glass is half full with respect to the future of the West, although i, truth be told, am quite pessimistic.
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There is nothing special about humans. If something is growing inside of my body, I can decide to remove it. Whether it is my kidney or a fetus is unimportant, if it is in my body, it is my decision on whether it gets to stay.
If its viable, I *might* be willing to grant that its death is gross negligence causing death. It is hard to imagine that there was not a better time to deal with it prior to the point of viability. There are plenty of people trying to adopt newborns, if you got that far, just go through with it. Furthermore, there are pills nowadays that will eject the contents of one's uterus early on much like sticking fingers down your throat ejects the contents of one's stomach. The problem is that the anti-choice crowd doesn't want society to have the choice that pill gives.
Eating meat is as much murder as abortion, I'd argue more actually. There is nothing morally special about a human, despite the question begging by religious zealots.
If its viable, I *might* be willing to grant that its death is gross negligence causing death. It is hard to imagine that there was not a better time to deal with it prior to the point of viability. There are plenty of people trying to adopt newborns, if you got that far, just go through with it. Furthermore, there are pills nowadays that will eject the contents of one's uterus early on much like sticking fingers down your throat ejects the contents of one's stomach. The problem is that the anti-choice crowd doesn't want society to have the choice that pill gives.
Eating meat is as much murder as abortion, I'd argue more actually. There is nothing morally special about a human, despite the question begging by religious zealots.