Canada considering mutual defense pact with Israel
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Canada never started an unprovoked war and we've always acted within the limitations of international laws and treaties regarding the conduct of war and human rights. That spotless record would end if we hopped in bed with the Israelis. The difference between right an wrong gets a little fuzzy when you side with a country which is busy trying to create a state for people of a single religious group and remove everyone else. Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity have been condemned repeatedly by the majority of nations at the UN. Even the US has criticized Israel's ethnic cleansing activities, while you never heard a single word from the Harper government. This is a dangerous path. Canada should not sign a mutual defense pact with Israel.
I don't want to get in the middle of scrap here, but if anyone could concisely (and objectively) point out why this should be a priority, it would be nice.
I can't and won't even try, I think it's silly.
I base that opinion on facts that have already been mentioned, like fact that Canada really has no threat from overt enemies. Not a fabricated hatred for Joos. Like some.
The fabrication here are your attempts to smear legitimate criticism of Israel's human rights record as being Joo-hating anti-Semitism.
In the event of Israel facing a serious existential threat, I would welcome Jewish Israelis to Canada... with the exception of those who participated in war crimes or crimes against humanity. War criminals (Israeli or otherwise) should not be allowed to enter Canada.
All Jewish Israelis including IDF soldiers who did their duty defending Israel but did not commit war crimes would be welcome in Canada as far as I'm concerned. I'd even volunteer to billet an IDF soldier and their family. Rationalize that position with your joo-hating smears against me.
You keep saying that. But what you do isn't mere criticism of Israel.
I respect those that valid criticisms of Israeli wrong doing.
According to the bulk of your posts, the whole of the IDF are war criminals. Since you claim Israel has a policy of ethnic cleansing, enforced by the IDF and all.
So just which IDF Soldiers will you be billeting?
Israel knows that if they bomb Iran, they'll get bombed right back. Israel would not be able to prevent Iran from continuously attacking Israel with missiles. So bombing Iran would probably lead to Israel's destruction unless other nations sided with Israel and invaded/occupied Iran on Israel's behalf.
Israel is shopping for foolish world leaders who would put Israel's interests ahead of their own country's interests. Looks like they found a group of fools in the Harper government. Their willingness to put Israel's interests ahead of Canada's interests probably comes as a result of campaign donations by wealthy Canadian Zionists, some of whom are probably a conduit for illegal foreign donations to the CPC. All Harper cares about is remaining in power, even if that means Canada helping Israel fight a war with Iran.
Harper is playing with fire and Canadians could get burned...
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Only if you believe Iran is capable of committing war crimes, crimes against humanity.
Haven't you stated that that impression, is just a western media created myth?
Most people here know your game CB. You slander people with made up BS, and twist people's words. I doubt anyone here takes you seriously.
If you have a quote by me calling the whole of the IDF war criminals you would have posted it. The fact is I've never made such a claim. I don't blame one person for the actions of another and I never have. I've always posted that people are responsible for their own actions. Most IDF soldiers have honorably defended their country and I have no qualms with them. In fact some the biggest critics of IDF soldiers who have committed war crimes are other IDF soldiers:
I suggest you inform yourself:
Breaking the Silence › Israeli soldiers talk about the occupied territories
I am aware that Iran mounted human wave attacks against fortified Iraqi positions during the Iran/Iraq war. Many non-Muslims who were forced into the Iranian military ended up as cannon fodder. I'm not sure how you would classify that action, but yes I have a problem with that. I am aware that non-Muslims do not have equal rights in Iran, but I would not go so far as to say that Iran's leaders are guilty of ethnic cleansing, war crimes or crimes against humanity. I have confidence that if left alone, the Iranian people will eventually dismantle their theocracy and replace it with a democracy.
BTW, I would be against Canada having warm relations with Iran because of their human rights record. But the Harper government isn't considering signing a mutual defense pact with Iran. So Iran's record is a diversion from the topic.
I don't twist them, I just use peoples words against them. Especially people like you with a facade, that was easily seen through.
If they did, I would suggest seeking help. This is a web forum.
Again, every time you have demanded I back up my claims, I have. You simply ignore them. So I don't waste my time anymore. Everyone here is well acquainted with your anti Joo spam, including the Admin staff.
I was already aware. It's you that speaks in general terms.
I never mentioned Iran, and diversion is your tactic, not mine.
It's ludicrous but unfourtantely not surprising that Harper would support Israel's terrorist regime. Netayanhu can provoke war and we'd be obliged to follow, pathetic little sheep Harper has turned us in to.
In my opinion, a defense pact with Israel would be a terrible idea - both for Canada and the rest of the world. The last thing we need is to be dragged into a war based on rumours of possible nuclear weapons (as a war on Iran would be...Iraq, anyone?), and the last thing the world needs is another country telling Israel it can do whatever it wants, and we'll help protect it.
For my thoughts on the issues, check out: Phast Thoughts: What Kind of Friends Does Israel Need?
For my thoughts on the issues, check out: Phast Thoughts: What Kind of Friends Does Israel Need?
You've made about 15 posts on this thread and all but 1 are obvious trolling. All you seem to do is slander, belittle, name call and make personal attacks, all of which are against forum rules BTW.
Not a single one of your posts here encourages debate or shows respect for people who have a different opinion from yourself. I wish everyone would put you on their ignore list until you go away.
So you condone cubbyabtfetgoreobsessed's insult?
But mine is bad?
Funny how those that agree with you get a pass.
I recommend the link.
welcome to the forums
I am against all forum rule violators. If GO breaks the rules, I support the moderators tossing him off the forum. If GO was the worst troll on this thread, I guess I'd focus on them instead of you.
Do you actually have an opinion about whether Canada should sign a mutual defense pact with Israel or are you just here to piss all over this thread?
I was already aware of your moral relativism.
Yes I do. I already posted it.
You were likely too busy trying to find something to smear Israel with and missed it.
Of course you would....even a blog....but don't expect the rest of us to accept a new unknown blogger's opinion as valid support for your opinions.