Iran - Sanctions - Blockades - War - Treaties - to name a few possibilities
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Intel Source: Israel Behind Deadly Explosion at Iran Missile Base - TIME
Israel is getting out of control, their leaders are incompetent neanderthals.
Israel is getting out of control, their leaders are incompetent neanderthals.
Iran is for all intents and purposes is in a State of War with Israel. Iran supplies many Terror groups, Hezbollah, Hamas for 2 that regularly attack Israel.
Iran has also since the inception of the Thugocracy attacked Jews in other parts of the world.
Iran has also since the inception of the Thugocracy murdered opponents of the regime in a number of countries.
The German Govt had a 4 year investigation, lead by judges that determined this to be fact.
Lastly – Sabotage is an old strategy going back decade upon decade – Also sowing false information is another.
Note how the Germans scored a coup by creating in Stalin’s mind that there were traitors within the Officer Corp – Result – a massive purge – that means execution and they were massive in number – and the Military leadership was gutted. Which showed dramatic results when Germany invaded Russia.
Iran is in a curious state where the leaders are bunch of Mullah nincompoops, while the citizens are among the most enlightened. As a people they are first-rate world-class citizens.
They needed order, and only Mullahs offered that.
If someone could go in and assassinate the Mullahs, to have them replaced with a more civil government, in a way that would not disrupt business, then Iranians would pretend to not notice.
They just want to do business, and that requires order.
They needed order, and only Mullahs offered that.
If someone could go in and assassinate the Mullahs, to have them replaced with a more civil government, in a way that would not disrupt business, then Iranians would pretend to not notice.
They just want to do business, and that requires order.
The headline asks 'was' Israel responsible.
Innuendo is the source, regardless of what Iran says.
The Joos did it.
You people and your double standards are a hoot.
Well my grammar is not the best but I did use the singular I think??? - a bag of hammers -
I am against all terrorism, not just terrorism directed at Americans and Israelis.
US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
America is secretly funding militant ethnic separatist groups in Iran in an attempt to pile pressure on the Islamic regime to give up its nuclear programme.
In a move that reflects Washington's growing concern with the failure of diplomatic initiatives, CIA officials are understood to be helping opposition militias among the numerous ethnic minority groups clustered in Iran's border regions.
The operations are controversial because they involve dealing with movements that resort to terrorist methods in pursuit of their grievances against the Iranian regime.
US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran - Telegraph
Car Bomb in Iran Destroys a Bus Carrying Revolutionary Guards
Islamic Republic News Agency, via Reuters
At least 11 people were killed when a car bomb exploded near a bus carrying Revolutionary Guards Wednesday in the southeastern city of Zahedan.
By NAZILA FATHI
Published: February 15, 2007
TEHRAN, Feb. 14 — A car loaded with explosives blew up on Wednesday in front of a bus carrying members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards in the southeastern city of Zahedan, killing at least 11 people and wounding 34 others, the state news media reported.
Car Bomb in Iran Destroys a Bus Carrying Revolutionary Guards - New York Times
Other examples of support for terrorism:
Daily Kos: Fox anchor calls for car bombings in Iran
US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
America is secretly funding militant ethnic separatist groups in Iran in an attempt to pile pressure on the Islamic regime to give up its nuclear programme.
In a move that reflects Washington's growing concern with the failure of diplomatic initiatives, CIA officials are understood to be helping opposition militias among the numerous ethnic minority groups clustered in Iran's border regions.
The operations are controversial because they involve dealing with movements that resort to terrorist methods in pursuit of their grievances against the Iranian regime.
US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran - Telegraph
Car Bomb in Iran Destroys a Bus Carrying Revolutionary Guards
At least 11 people were killed when a car bomb exploded near a bus carrying Revolutionary Guards Wednesday in the southeastern city of Zahedan.
By NAZILA FATHI
Published: February 15, 2007
TEHRAN, Feb. 14 — A car loaded with explosives blew up on Wednesday in front of a bus carrying members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards in the southeastern city of Zahedan, killing at least 11 people and wounding 34 others, the state news media reported.
Car Bomb in Iran Destroys a Bus Carrying Revolutionary Guards - New York Times
Other examples of support for terrorism:
Daily Kos: Fox anchor calls for car bombings in Iran
So you keep saying. Right before you make excuses for terrorists attacking Israel.
I understand you are also against torture and other inhuman treatment of captured Detainees, Terrorists. Is that correct?
I support universal human rights as well as international laws, treaties and conventions which protect human rights. I expect Canada to respect and support universal human rights. I expect Canada to criticize and sanction countries which do not respect human rights. I do not support torture or capital punishment.
Canada's record regarding universal human rights is pretty good, with the sole exception of Israel. Our government unshakably supports Israel's ethnic cleansing, torture, summary execution, assassinations...
This double standard when it comes to looking the other way as Israelis commit commit grave human rights abuses, war crimes and crimes against humanity will eventually bite Canadians in the ass. Respect for human rights isn't just about doing the "right thing". Its also about protecting ourselves. If Canada supports countries like Israel which commit human rights abuses, then other countries can justify treating Canadians the same way.
Canada's record regarding universal human rights is pretty good, with the sole exception of Israel. Our government unshakably supports Israel's ethnic cleansing, torture, summary execution, assassinations...
This double standard when it comes to looking the other way as Israelis commit commit grave human rights abuses, war crimes and crimes against humanity will eventually bite Canadians in the ass. Respect for human rights isn't just about doing the "right thing". Its also about protecting ourselves. If Canada supports countries like Israel which commit human rights abuses, then other countries can justify treating Canadians the same way.
You made a comment a few months ago about dropping the Taliban in the Canadian Arctic and letting them fend for themselves.
Please explain how this fits into your support for “Universal Human Rights”.
Call me confused.
I recommended dropping them off in a remote area in Canada's north at the beginning of summer with supplies (including building materials and food) and a deadline to build a shelter.... winter.
As you interpret them.
Canada does.
Just countries and regimes that do.
Where it's great.
Our gov't doesn't support your imagination.
You complaining about double standards, is beyond ironic.
What you propose, is cowardice.
Only if Israel was anything like you say and those countries use your logic to condone violence.
I trust Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. They've actually been to Israel and the Occupied Territories many times and done many investigations and interviewed many people on both sides of this conflict. Here are their findings:
Amnesty International 2011 Annual Report
Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories
A ceasefire between Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups agreed in January 2009 was generally respected. The Israeli army maintained draconian controls on the movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), including a blockade on the Gaza Strip that deepened hardship and virtually imprisoned the entire population of 1.5 million. The Israeli authorities rejected or delayed applications for permits to leave Gaza submitted by hundreds of Palestinians requiring specialist medical treatment; a few died as a result. Most of Gaza’s inhabitants depended on international aid, which was severely hampered by the blockade. In May, Israeli forces killed nine men aboard an aid flotilla in international waters that was aiming to breach the blockade. In the West Bank, the movement of Palestinians was severely curtailed by hundreds of Israeli checkpoints and barriers, and by the 700km fence/wall that Israel continued to build mostly inside the West Bank. There was a substantial increase in the number of demolitions by Israeli authorities of Palestinian homes, water cisterns and other structures in the West Bank, affecting thousands of people. Israeli authorities also destroyed homes in Bedouin villages in the south of Israel. The expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on seized Palestinian land, partially frozen until 26 September, resumed. Israel still did not conduct adequate investigations into alleged war crimes and other serious violations of international law by its forces during Operation “Cast Lead”, the 22-day offensive in Gaza in December 2008/January 2009, during which nearly 1,400 Palestinians, including more than 300 children, were killed. Israeli soldiers and settlers who committed serious abuses against Palestinians, including unlawful killings, assaults and attacks against property, were generally not held to account for their crimes. Israeli military forces killed 33 Palestinian civilians in the OPT, including eight children. Hundreds of Palestinians were arrested and detained by Israeli forces; at least 264 were held without charge or trial under administrative detention orders, some had been held for over two years. Reports of torture and other ill-treatment were frequent, but investigations were rare. Around 6,000 Palestinians remained in Israeli prisons, many after unfair military trials. Israeli conscientious objectors to military service continued to be imprisoned.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Human Rights Watch
The human rights crisis in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories worsened in 2009, particularly in Gaza, where Israeli forces killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians and destroyed civilian homes and infrastructure during Operation Cast Lead, a major military offensive that began on December 27, 2008 and ended on January 18, 2009. Israel's continued blockade of Gaza denied basic goods to Gaza's 1.5 million residents and prevented post-war reconstruction. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian armed groups in Gaza fired rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities and towns. At their peak during Operation Cast Lead, more than 100 rockets per day hit Israel, killing three Israeli civilians. Longer-range rockets placed 800,000 Israelis at risk of attack.
During and after the war, Hamas forces in Gaza killed alleged collaborators with Israel and shot and maimed scores of political rivals.
In the West Bank, Israel maintained many restrictions on freedom of movement for Palestinians, demolished hundreds of homes under discriminatory regulations, continued unlawful settlement construction, and continued to arbitrarily detain children and adults.
Israeli forces shelled densely populated areas with heavy artillery, including 155mm high explosive, and white phosphorous obscurant munitions, which are inherently indiscriminate when used in densely-populated areas. In one case, on January 15, IDF high explosive and white phosphorus artillery shells struck the main compound of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) in Gaza City, wounding three people and starting fires that destroyed four buildings, food aid, and medical supplies.
Israeli soldiers unlawfully shot and killed at least 11 Palestinian civilians, including five women and four children, who were in groups waving white flags to convey their civilian status.
Israeli aerial drones launched missiles that killed 87 civilians (not including police) in Gaza, according to human rights NGOs. Victims included children playing on rooftops and students waiting for a bus in areas where there was no evidence of military activity. Drone operators have the time and capacity to clearly see their targets on the ground.
After the Gaza war, international donors pledged US $4.4 billion in reconstruction aid; despite this, due to Israeli import restrictions, UNRWA stated in August that "not one penny of aid has reached Gaza."
As of September roughly 20,000 people remained homeless and 10,000 remained without water. Items Israel prohibited from entry included reconstruction materials, chickpeas, dates, macaroni, a water purification system, and 120 truckloads of school supplies. The only exports that Israel allowed consisted of several shipments of carnations.
Israel / Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) | Human Rights Watch
Iran isn't exactly a paradise either, but our government is already hostile toward Iran
Amnesty International 2011 Annual Report
Iran
The authorities maintained severe restrictions on freedom of expression, association and assembly. Sweeping controls on domestic and international media aimed at reducing Iranians’ contact with the outside world were imposed. Individuals and groups risked arrest, torture and imprisonment if perceived as co-operating with human rights and foreign-based Persian-language media organizations. Political dissidents, women’s and minority rights activists and other human rights defenders, lawyers, journalists and students were rounded up in mass and other arrests and hundreds were imprisoned. Torture and other ill-treatment of detainees were routine and committed with impunity. Women continued to face discrimination under the law and in practice. The authorities acknowledged 252 executions, but there were credible reports of more than 300 other executions. The true total could be even higher. At least one juvenile offender was executed. Sentences of death by stoning continued to be passed, but no stonings were known to have been carried out. Floggings and an increased number of amputations were carried out.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Whicch makes Iran not as bad as Israel but about in the same league as Canada's other good friend, Saudi Arabia:
Over 100 suspects in security-related offences were detained in 2010. The legal status and conditions of imprisonment of thousands of security detainees arrested in previous years, including prisoners of conscience, remained shrouded in secrecy. At least two detainees died in custody, possibly as a result of torture, and new information came to light about methods of torture and other ill-treatment used against security detainees. Cruel, inhuman and degrading punishments, particularly flogging, continued to be imposed and carried out. Women and girls remained subject to discrimination and violence, with some cases receiving wide media attention. Both Christians and Muslims were arrested for expressing their religious beliefs. Saudi Arabian forces involved in a conflict in northern Yemen carried out attacks that appeared to be indiscriminate or disproportionate and to have caused civilian deaths and injuries in violation of international humanitarian law. Foreign migrant workers were exploited and abused by their employers. The authorities violated the rights of refugees and asylum-seekers. At least 27 prisoners were executed, markedly fewer than in the two preceding years.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Amnesty International 2011 Annual Report
Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories
A ceasefire between Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups agreed in January 2009 was generally respected. The Israeli army maintained draconian controls on the movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), including a blockade on the Gaza Strip that deepened hardship and virtually imprisoned the entire population of 1.5 million. The Israeli authorities rejected or delayed applications for permits to leave Gaza submitted by hundreds of Palestinians requiring specialist medical treatment; a few died as a result. Most of Gaza’s inhabitants depended on international aid, which was severely hampered by the blockade. In May, Israeli forces killed nine men aboard an aid flotilla in international waters that was aiming to breach the blockade. In the West Bank, the movement of Palestinians was severely curtailed by hundreds of Israeli checkpoints and barriers, and by the 700km fence/wall that Israel continued to build mostly inside the West Bank. There was a substantial increase in the number of demolitions by Israeli authorities of Palestinian homes, water cisterns and other structures in the West Bank, affecting thousands of people. Israeli authorities also destroyed homes in Bedouin villages in the south of Israel. The expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on seized Palestinian land, partially frozen until 26 September, resumed. Israel still did not conduct adequate investigations into alleged war crimes and other serious violations of international law by its forces during Operation “Cast Lead”, the 22-day offensive in Gaza in December 2008/January 2009, during which nearly 1,400 Palestinians, including more than 300 children, were killed. Israeli soldiers and settlers who committed serious abuses against Palestinians, including unlawful killings, assaults and attacks against property, were generally not held to account for their crimes. Israeli military forces killed 33 Palestinian civilians in the OPT, including eight children. Hundreds of Palestinians were arrested and detained by Israeli forces; at least 264 were held without charge or trial under administrative detention orders, some had been held for over two years. Reports of torture and other ill-treatment were frequent, but investigations were rare. Around 6,000 Palestinians remained in Israeli prisons, many after unfair military trials. Israeli conscientious objectors to military service continued to be imprisoned.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Human Rights Watch
The human rights crisis in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories worsened in 2009, particularly in Gaza, where Israeli forces killed hundreds of Palestinian civilians and destroyed civilian homes and infrastructure during Operation Cast Lead, a major military offensive that began on December 27, 2008 and ended on January 18, 2009. Israel's continued blockade of Gaza denied basic goods to Gaza's 1.5 million residents and prevented post-war reconstruction. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian armed groups in Gaza fired rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities and towns. At their peak during Operation Cast Lead, more than 100 rockets per day hit Israel, killing three Israeli civilians. Longer-range rockets placed 800,000 Israelis at risk of attack.
During and after the war, Hamas forces in Gaza killed alleged collaborators with Israel and shot and maimed scores of political rivals.
In the West Bank, Israel maintained many restrictions on freedom of movement for Palestinians, demolished hundreds of homes under discriminatory regulations, continued unlawful settlement construction, and continued to arbitrarily detain children and adults.
Israeli forces shelled densely populated areas with heavy artillery, including 155mm high explosive, and white phosphorous obscurant munitions, which are inherently indiscriminate when used in densely-populated areas. In one case, on January 15, IDF high explosive and white phosphorus artillery shells struck the main compound of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) in Gaza City, wounding three people and starting fires that destroyed four buildings, food aid, and medical supplies.
Israeli soldiers unlawfully shot and killed at least 11 Palestinian civilians, including five women and four children, who were in groups waving white flags to convey their civilian status.
Israeli aerial drones launched missiles that killed 87 civilians (not including police) in Gaza, according to human rights NGOs. Victims included children playing on rooftops and students waiting for a bus in areas where there was no evidence of military activity. Drone operators have the time and capacity to clearly see their targets on the ground.
After the Gaza war, international donors pledged US $4.4 billion in reconstruction aid; despite this, due to Israeli import restrictions, UNRWA stated in August that "not one penny of aid has reached Gaza."
As of September roughly 20,000 people remained homeless and 10,000 remained without water. Items Israel prohibited from entry included reconstruction materials, chickpeas, dates, macaroni, a water purification system, and 120 truckloads of school supplies. The only exports that Israel allowed consisted of several shipments of carnations.
Israel / Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) | Human Rights Watch
Iran isn't exactly a paradise either, but our government is already hostile toward Iran
Amnesty International 2011 Annual Report
Iran
The authorities maintained severe restrictions on freedom of expression, association and assembly. Sweeping controls on domestic and international media aimed at reducing Iranians’ contact with the outside world were imposed. Individuals and groups risked arrest, torture and imprisonment if perceived as co-operating with human rights and foreign-based Persian-language media organizations. Political dissidents, women’s and minority rights activists and other human rights defenders, lawyers, journalists and students were rounded up in mass and other arrests and hundreds were imprisoned. Torture and other ill-treatment of detainees were routine and committed with impunity. Women continued to face discrimination under the law and in practice. The authorities acknowledged 252 executions, but there were credible reports of more than 300 other executions. The true total could be even higher. At least one juvenile offender was executed. Sentences of death by stoning continued to be passed, but no stonings were known to have been carried out. Floggings and an increased number of amputations were carried out.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Whicch makes Iran not as bad as Israel but about in the same league as Canada's other good friend, Saudi Arabia:
Over 100 suspects in security-related offences were detained in 2010. The legal status and conditions of imprisonment of thousands of security detainees arrested in previous years, including prisoners of conscience, remained shrouded in secrecy. At least two detainees died in custody, possibly as a result of torture, and new information came to light about methods of torture and other ill-treatment used against security detainees. Cruel, inhuman and degrading punishments, particularly flogging, continued to be imposed and carried out. Women and girls remained subject to discrimination and violence, with some cases receiving wide media attention. Both Christians and Muslims were arrested for expressing their religious beliefs. Saudi Arabian forces involved in a conflict in northern Yemen carried out attacks that appeared to be indiscriminate or disproportionate and to have caused civilian deaths and injuries in violation of international humanitarian law. Foreign migrant workers were exploited and abused by their employers. The authorities violated the rights of refugees and asylum-seekers. At least 27 prisoners were executed, markedly fewer than in the two preceding years.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
No you did not.
Hear Yea and Repent oh Serpent of the Goddess BullShxt.
Supplies to build a shelter, no food, get busy and prepare to die. So yet again you trip yourself up in a that tangled web of crapola and care for Humanity and equality for all. Right.
Now Please pull a SJP and explain it away in words that could only come from a BSA -(Bull Shxt Artist)
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/102227-judge-tosses-attempt-limit-afghan.html
We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.
French consul injured after IAF s... JPost - Diplomacy & Politics
French consul injured after IAF strike on Gaza
By REUTERS AND JPOST.COM STAFF
11/15/2011 15:39
Foreign Ministry in Paris says its envoy to the Strip, his wife and 13-year-old daughter were hit by shrapnel in strike two days ago.
France's consul to the Gaza Strip, his wife and 13-year-old daughter were injured during an Israeli air strike on Sunday night, French Foreign Ministry spokesman Bernard Valero said on Tuesday.
Valero told reporters the three were were hit by shrapnel at their Gaza residence , which is located 200 meters from the site of the IAF missile attack
"France condemns the consequences of the raid," he said. "While we are all for Israeli security, France recalls the utmost necessity to avoid civilian harm," Valero said, without specifying the nature of their injuries.
The IDF was looking into reports.
The air strikes killed one Palestinian and wounded four others after terrorists from the coastal territory fired a rocket into southern Israel.
Relations between Paris and Jerusalem have been rocky in the past week after French President Nicolas Sarkozy was overhead calling Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu "a liar."
Following the incident, Sarkozy wrote to Netanyahu to reaffirm friendship despite what he refers to as their "differing views on the Middle East," Israeli officials said on Monday.
French consul injured after IAF strike on Gaza
By REUTERS AND JPOST.COM STAFF
11/15/2011 15:39
Foreign Ministry in Paris says its envoy to the Strip, his wife and 13-year-old daughter were hit by shrapnel in strike two days ago.
France's consul to the Gaza Strip, his wife and 13-year-old daughter were injured during an Israeli air strike on Sunday night, French Foreign Ministry spokesman Bernard Valero said on Tuesday.
Valero told reporters the three were were hit by shrapnel at their Gaza residence , which is located 200 meters from the site of the IAF missile attack
"France condemns the consequences of the raid," he said. "While we are all for Israeli security, France recalls the utmost necessity to avoid civilian harm," Valero said, without specifying the nature of their injuries.
The IDF was looking into reports.
The air strikes killed one Palestinian and wounded four others after terrorists from the coastal territory fired a rocket into southern Israel.
Relations between Paris and Jerusalem have been rocky in the past week after French President Nicolas Sarkozy was overhead calling Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu "a liar."
Following the incident, Sarkozy wrote to Netanyahu to reaffirm friendship despite what he refers to as their "differing views on the Middle East," Israeli officials said on Monday.
He and the French Govt are more than well aware of the strikes by the Israeli's against targets. Why would any man expose his wife and child to reside in an area where Hamas conducts attacks which result in reciprocity. The man is an idiot along with the French Govt.
So your point is??????