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... the UN mandate was to turf the Taliban, mission accomplished. The Afghan people got their old warlords back and they hate them. So the civil war rages on and on.

Al-queda was the enemy, not the Taliban. They are not the same, the Taliban has no argument with the West.

The mission was to seek out those responsible for the events of 9/11 and bring them to justice. The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11, but they were friendly towards those responsible. They offered to cooperate and even assist, provided the US proved their accusations had merit.
Taliban 'will try Bin Laden if US provides evidence' | World news | guardian.co.uk

The US responded to that offer with bombs.


... Canada COULD have kept the prisoners captured rather than handing them over to the Afghani's. Canada COULD have gotten outa dodge a long time ago. Instead, we are still there. Canada knowingly handed off captured prisoners to be tortured...NATO did not want to run a prison....

We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.
 

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The mission was to seek out those responsible for the events of 9/11 and bring them to justice. The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11, but they were friendly towards those responsible. They offered to cooperate and even assist, provided the US proved their accusations had merit.
Taliban 'will try Bin Laden if US provides evidence' | World news | guardian.co.uk

The US responded to that offer with bombs.

Don't be so naieve.




We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.


In other words you'd torture them? Well that is a side I've yet to see from you.
 

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Well, thank God for that, because I just can't see killing another human being as being an acceptable course of action. ESPECIALLY when you need to travel half way across the world to do it.

Never would happen with you - Right Gerry -
 

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The real problem comes from the Federal Government, they didn't provide the materials for
Canadian troops to keep the prisoners. That is the first problem. The fact is we need some
top brass who demand accountability. It is saying our troops are following orders and that is
all. Remember how well that went over in Germany after WWII? I for one do support the
efforts of the troops in Afghanistan, not in Iraq but in Afghanistan. I do not support the turning
over of prisoners to those who are a little more civilized than the savages who were captured.
Our problem is we are supporting one of the most corrupt governments on earth. The
mission is the right one but we have to ensure a regime change to something more honest
than the government currently in place.
Confronting the truth is never dumping on anyone it is just exposing the truth what ever that
might be. We improve by learning from mistakes and from our abuses of power and that in
the long run is how civilization advances. The truth should never be limited, lest justice
itself is short changed.
 

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Well, thank God for that, because I just can't see killing another human being as being an acceptable course of action. ESPECIALLY when you need to travel half way across the world to do it.

What is your opinion on troops stopping the Genocide in Darfur - Bosnia - Mass murders in Uganda?

That's right, numbnuts.

And my nits only get numb when blood flow is low - They are so fukin big, takes a lot of blood to keep em warm, Ya Know - No you would not know - How now could you -

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We should have anticipated having to deal with POWs when we went into a war zone to fight. Personally I would have supported dropping off our POWs in a remote corner of Northern Canada with enough tools and materials to build a suitable shelter. Give them a heads up about Canada's winters and suggest they get busy.

So now you are in favor of torture and inhumane treatment. Really.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Well, thank God for that, because I just can't see killing another human being as being an acceptable course of action. ESPECIALLY when you need to travel half way across the world to do it.



Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
That's right, numbnuts.



What is your opinion on troops stopping the Genocide in Darfur - Bosnia - Mass murders in Uganda?



And my nuts only get numb when blood flow is low - They are so fukin big, takes a lot of blood to keep em warm, Ya Know - No you would not know - How now could you -



So now you are in favor of torture and inhumane treatment. Really.

Bump up for ya Gerry.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Well, thank God for that, because I just can't see killing another human being as being an acceptable course of action. ESPECIALLY when you need to travel half way across the world to do it.



Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
That's right, numbnuts.





Bump up for ya Gerry.


When they are stopping killing, that's a good thing. Too bad that doesn't happen often enough.
 

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When they are stopping killing, that's a good thing. Too bad that doesn't happen often enough.

So you are selective then -If they stop people from killing others then that is OK.

Yet you would never kill.

So taking out terrorists does save lives.

Next Killing is a dirty job that you would have others do for you.

Yet if they do not fit your tight parameters then they are shxt.
 

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So you are selective then -If they stop people from killing others then that is OK.

Yet you would never kill.

So taking out terrorists does save lives.

Next Killing is a dirty job that you would have others do for you.

Yet if they do not fit your tight parameters then they are shxt.


Selective? If they are not killing and they are saving I am fine with it. If they are killing, using the EXCUSE they are saving, then I call bullshyte...it's all the same.

I repeat, since you seem to be too damn dense to understand first time, I see no reason to take another human life. Period. End of fu cking discussion. We do NOT have the right to take anothers life. Period. It is ALL murder.
 

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Selective? If they are not killing and they are saving I am fine with it. If they are killing, using the EXCUSE they are saving, then I call bullshyte...it's all the same.

I repeat, since you seem to be too damn dense to understand first time, I see no reason to take another human life. Period. End of fu cking discussion. We do NOT have the right to take anothers life. Period. It is ALL murder.

So Canadian Soldiers that prevented mass murder in the Medac Pocket are wrong in your opinion. And yes Croats died.

Targeting Serb snipers in the hills around Sarajevo that were killing civilians as they walked the streets - Well they are wrong to.
 

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so canadian soldiers that prevented mass murder in the medac pocket are wrong in your opinion. And yes croats died.

Targeting serb snipers in the hills around sarajevo that were killing civilians as they walked the streets - well they are wrong to.



no killing. Killing is murder.
 

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no killing. Killing is murder.


My question
What is your opinion on troops stopping the Genocide in Darfur - Bosnia - Mass murders in Uganda?

Your replies

When they are stopping killing, that's a good thing. Too bad that doesn't happen often enough.

Selective? If they are not killing and they are saving I am fine with it. If they are killing, using the EXCUSE they are saving, then I call bullshyte...it's all the same.

I repeat, since you seem to be too damn dense to understand first time, I see no reason to take another human life. Period. End of fu cking discussion. We do NOT have the right to take anothers life. Period. It is ALL murder.

My question as «i am quite dense.
Are you unaware that to stop the killing in Darfur - that killing was used by UN - African Troops to prtoec civilians.
Yes or no.

I am not trying to embarrass or nail you in any way what so ever. If you wish to reply using a PM then I am fine with that.
 

gerryh

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I don't need a way out. Killing is murder. Abortion is murder. Capital punishment is murder. Killing another human being is wrong. Period.
 

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I don't need a way out. Killing is murder. Abortion is murder. Capital punishment is murder. Killing another human being is wrong. Period.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...ague-asked-investigate-catholic-church-3.html

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
The war mongers and their apologists have done far more harm to children through rape and murder than the RCC has done.



My reply

Please add the Child Rapists from the Holy Mother Church are OK - I am not the dense one here - I am not one who condones one thing by naming something else as worse.
You are seriously in need of reflection on your morals.


Again deflection from the issue - You are such a good RC. Slavish is the term that is appropriate, along with lacking in morals.

How many more excuses before you accept that the Holy RC Church did as i mentioned - Protected child rapists - Oh i am sure that your type will find another excuse. Fukin sad.

Now off to confessional. Tell the Priest how you defend them.
 

gerryh

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How many more excuses before you accept that the Holy RC Church did as i mentioned - Protected child rapists - Oh i am sure that your type will find another excuse. Fukin sad.



Have never denied that the Church has been guilty of doing exactly that in the past.