Canada-To-U.S. Pipeline Project Newest Front in Climate Clash

JLM

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Are either of them safe?

I guess it depends on whether you are approaching it from a statistical standpoint or an emotional one. :smile:

I don’t necessarily oppose the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline, JLM. I am worried about using Kitimat as a terminal. I don't understand why they couldn't use a port with an open approach to the ocean for the tankers. The approach to Kitimat is fraught with dangers not the least of which is the already large amount of shipping traffic in the area. Can you imagine the effect of just one spill in that area - just one spill?

You make a good point. Prince Rupert would probably be a better port, but between the highway the railway and the Skeena River there's not much room for a pipeline.
 

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The easterners have become accustomed to their culture of entitlement. Hey, these guy want their spa breaks, like the ones they get in the auto industry... Do you really think they would stoop that low to work on an oil rig without spa breaks ???

These guys have become so used to having it so good, that is the reason the west has to keep sending them money is so they can pay their bills and have their spa breaks !!
Theres the newfy hour in fort mac every sunday on the radio and most newfys pretty well shut her down and kicked back every sunday when it came on.

I tells ya me b'ye,I,m going to move ta Alberta,make lots of money,buy lots of toys and get a big ass tatoo on me neck.

I live a couple hundred meters from the big trans canada pipeline and so far it's been safe. I have also done some work on their right of ways and they are very safety and environmentally oriented,allmost a pain in the ass to even cross one of their ROW's with all the permits and inspectors involved.
 

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I guess it depends on whether you are approaching it from a statistical standpoint or an emotional one. :smile:



You make a good point. Prince Rupert would probably be a better port, but between the highway the railway and the Skeena River there's not much room for a pipeline.
Nothing emotional at all. Just reality.

There is something very important to pipelines. GRADE!
 

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Kakato; I tells ya me b'ye said:
and get a big ass tatoo on me neck.[/B]

I have no problem with tattoos (I have a homemade one - a remnant of a bygone day of poorer discretion) I do however question the popular sentiment that the human body can be improved on by adding a little ink! :lol:
 

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I have no problem with tattoos (I have a homemade one - a remnant of a bygone day of poorer discretion) I do however question the popular sentiment that the human body can be improved on by adding a little ink! :lol:
Tattooing and body modification go back 10s of thousands of years. It's nothing new.
 

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I have no problem with tattoos (I have a homemade one - a remnant of a bygone day of poorer discretion) I do however question the popular sentiment that the human body can be improved on by adding a little ink! :lol:

Ya,I have my home made one from my younger days too,did it with a razor blade and now it looks like the mcdonalds arches.
I couldnt understand the neck tatoos though,seems every easterner at the oilsands has one.
 

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Nothing emotional at all. Just reality.

There is something very important to pipelines. GRADE!

Well from Terrace to Prince Rupert (90 miles) the grade would be about -0.01% on average. :smile:

(but you might have to run it above the Skeena River suspended by sky hooks)

Tattooing and body modification go back 10s of thousands of years. It's nothing new.

Does that make them sensible? All my sons have them, which doesn't bother me except the money could have been better spent. :lol:
 

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Well from Terrace to Prince Rupert (90 miles) the grade would be about -0.01% on average. :smile:

(but you might have to run it above the Skeena River suspended by sky hooks)
Follow the entire line. It's half a Billion cheaper than the Asia Pacific Gateway P.R. route and the grade is far better. Look it up.
 

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Ya,I have my home made one from my younger days too,did it with a razor blade and now it looks like the mcdonalds arches.
I couldnt understand the neck tatoos though,seems every easterner at the oilsands has one.

I think they may be have been trying to cover up a red neck. :lol:
 

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Does that make them sensible? All my sons have them, which doesn't bother me except the money could have been better spent. :lol:
Personally I don't find them appealing and I know for FACT that the incredible rise in tattoo shops isn't because they are cool. They are incredibly good laundering businesses for the dope trade.
 

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Personally I don't find them appealing and I know for FACT that that the incredible rise in tattoo shops isn't because they are cool. They are incredibly good laundering businesses for the dope trade.

For that reason start a movement to boycott them!
 

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Whats the max grade for a pipeline? I've seen them on some very steep slopes including the one next to me.

I'm guessing a minimum grade is a greater issue,oil being viscious. I guess a pump can overcome any grade.

Follow the entire line. It's half a Billion cheaper than the Asia Pacific Gateway P.R. route and the grade is far better. Look it up.

Give me a link.
 

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Considering the Alta/BC border is the continental divide you think it would be all down hill from the border to the coast.

Nope, not by a long shot. On highway 16 Rose Lake (west of Burns Lake) is another summit. One Highway 1. there are the Selkirk Mountains and the Monashee Mountains. One Highway 3 there is the Purcell Mts. the Selkirks, the Monashees, the Okanagan RAnge and the Cascades.
 

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Nope, not by a long shot. On highway 16 Rose Lake (west of Burns Lake) is another summit. One Highway 1. there are the Selkirk Mountains and the Monashee Mountains. One Highway 3 there is the Purcell Mts. the Selkirks, the Monashees, the Okanagan RAnge and the Cascades.
I'm impressed. Years of gawking through a transit have paid off I see.