Canada-To-U.S. Pipeline Project Newest Front in Climate Clash
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Exactly,it's farmed out to seperate contractors and theres not exactly one pipeline company big enough to do that much line in the expected timeframe by themselves unless they subbed out to contractors.TCPL is one of the most stringent and strictest pipeline companies around as far as safety and the environment are concerned.The lines usually sectioned off and awarded as packages to each contractor.
I dont know why we dont make our own pipe here,same with powerline structures,we have them made in texas,yet we can build and fab allmost any huge structure for the oilsands and it's all done in Alberta.
It's because half the "born here" Albertans are too damn lazy to do the work. That's one of the reasons so many come from other parts of the country, and now that many of them are going back to their home provinces, it's once again hard to find any real workers that aren't lazy SOB's looking to make the big buck without having to break a sweat.
Thats funny,the few Albertans I have worked with were hard workers,it was the easterners that brought the bar to a new low level as far as dog fu*king go's as well as nepotism.
Theres a reason you dont see many easterners on the oil rigs.
Most of the big fabricated pressure vessels for the new upgraders and refineries come from Asia, and an awful lot of piping comes in prefabbed as well.
I used to hate the drive to fort mac last year and getting stuck behind the huge loads that barely fit on the highway.
Maybe you just attract those kinds of employees Ger.
So...........if I am reading this right, you are saying that the pipe for the Keystone project is already on the move, petros? Like what - its a done deal and the permit is only a formality? I am not at all sure that this is a good idea. The fact that they chose Kitimat as a terminal bothers me a lot and tells me that the environment was the last thing being considered when that decision was made.
You're kidding, right? You can't be that naive. The pipeline is a forgone conclusion. One way or another the oil is getting from Canada to the u.s.
Hell yeah. They don't need permits, oil runs both US and Canada They've been shipping pipe for over a year now. It's going through like a breeze blowing through the jasmine in some hippy's mind.. Kitimat is the end terminal for a separate line other than the Keystone XL. As for the misconception of American's supplying pipe is just that, a misconception. What Evraz did was score the tenders through majority ownership of other former IPSCO plants ie ThyssenKrupp in Louisiana who are merely middling the Evraz Regina pipe so the sale looks like US sale on the books. Very clever.
I'm no expert but I don't think an oil pipeline poses an unreasonable risk. Everything we do has an element of risk, but I'd say it's far less than a vehicle on the highway or a plane in the sky. Even shipping oil by ship should be a safe procedure what with double hull ships, and if that is not safe enough why not ship in smaller individual containers on the ship? I've always thought "where there's a will there's a way". We can't let fear prevent us from living. :smile:
AS long as they can afford it, if their credit rating drops anymore it should be cash on delivery though.
Shipping at sea safe? You know we almost had one helluva nuclear disaster when a shipment of SK uranium was nearly lost at sea back in January I think it was?
Canada is already one of their creditors. We'll get paid in goods. I know you're an apple man but I like oranges.
America is broke and they are putting on a brave face, I don't think we should share our resources
with them unless we are assured of cash payment. These guys as a nation have mismanaged the
economy and are becoming a nation of financial bums.
with them unless we are assured of cash payment. These guys as a nation have mismanaged the
economy and are becoming a nation of financial bums.
I don’t necessarily oppose the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline, JLM. I am worried about using Kitimat as a terminal. I don't understand why they couldn't use a port with an open approach to the ocean for the tankers. The approach to Kitimat is fraught with dangers not the least of which is the already large amount of shipping traffic in the area. Can you imagine the effect of just one spill in that area - just one spill?
Yeah..........I guess I am. So since this is a done deal someone should tell those people lying on the tarmac outside the White House that they are getting all dirty for nothing. At least I am not alone in my naivety. :smile:
The easterners have become accustomed to their culture of entitlement. Hey, these guy want their spa breaks, like the ones they get in the auto industry... Do you really think they would stoop that low to work on an oil rig without spa breaks ???
These guys have become so used to having it so good, that is the reason the west has to keep sending them money is so they can pay their bills and have their spa breaks !!