Michelle Bachmann March to 2012

Ocean Breeze

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NATO is in charge. It's their mission, with a Canadian commander.

indeed. But when someone's mind is made up......don't confuse them with facts;-);-)

Obama made sure all this was done under the auspices of NATO......as he did not want the US to be "percieved" as the aggressor/ initiator .........even though it was a USG motivated action.

Ya know.........the smoke and mirrors of war and politics8O
 

EagleSmack

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NATO is in charge. It's their mission, with a Canadian commander.

It is a NATO mission and a Canadian Lt. General leads it with his Canadian staff. Just like we are in charge in Afghanistan... this is yours.

indeed. But when someone's mind is made up......don't confuse them with facts;-);-)

Obama made sure all this was done under the auspices of NATO......as he did not want the US to be "percieved" as the aggressor/ initiator .........even though it was a USG motivated action.

Ya know.........the smoke and mirrors of war and politics8O

Nice try. Every bomb that falls is under the direction of a Canadian. Each and every one. You are leading the way.

This new war was done under the pressure of Britain and France you dingbat.
 

DaSleeper

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......so sleepy , do you support Michelle in her run for prez???

(and according to you ......the US is as innocent as a new born puppy) :roll::roll:

If I could vote in the US I wouldn't vote for her, but even so, I also don't have the hate-on for the US that every one of your posts shows you have.
 

Ocean Breeze

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If I could vote in the US I wouldn't vote for her, but even so, I also don't have the hate-on for the US that every one of your posts shows you have.


that is both inaccurate ( I give credit where credit is due) , and getting very lame/ tired. Try another line that is new and refreshing.;-)
 

Bar Sinister

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It's still Canada isn't it

Running out of things to say? You already made that comment.

Mr. Garrison... who the heck would get information from him? Is that where you get yours? That would explain quite a bit.

Why are you stealing my point? How original.

But Canada is in charge. Every bomb that falls has a Canadian fingerprint as they are giving the orders. You are leading the bombing campaign. If you are upset at the US dropping more bombs then perhaps you should pick up a bit and drop some more.
Every bomb that falls is on the orders of a Canadian. Every death is the responsibility of a Canadian.

No, Canada is not in charge. Among the many other things you do not seem to understand how NATO works is one of them. NATO frequently designates a commander from one of its member nations to coordinate military operations in various parts of the world. In this case the appointment of a Canadian was almost certainly politically motivated so that the US could claim that it was not running the NATO operation in spite of the fact that the US military commitment was by far and still is the largest. The so called Canadian "commander" has almost no power except to suggest to member nations what they might do and then coordinate their actions when they agree. If any member of NATO does not want to join in the operation the commander has no power to force them to do so. That is why you a number of NATO members have chosen not to participate and it is also why the Canadian "commander" has no power to order US forces or any other to carry out any bombing operations they choose not to participate in.

In terms of actual numbers of committed aircraft in Libya, Canada ranks fifth; far behind the US which is number 1.

Tell you what Eagle, why don't you actually learn some history and do a bit of minor research and then you won't end up posting so much rubbish. You might actually gain some credibility. Of course what can I expect from anyone who actually tries to defend an intellectual butterfly like Bachmann and who tries to pass off quotes from the person he is replying to as his own?
 

EagleSmack

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Running out of things to say? You already made that comment.

You're don't seem to be listening.



No, Canada is not in charge.

Well you know how we get blamed for everything in Afghanistan? Since Afghanistan is a NATO Mission yet we are still fully responsible for every death friend or foe?

Well you're in charge in Libya so now CANADA gets to have the full blame.

Fun isn't it?



In terms of actual numbers of committed aircraft in Libya, Canada ranks fifth; far behind the US which is number 1.

All that means is that a Canadian Commander is sending more of other countries men and women into harms way than he is of his. I'd be embarrassed. That's not something to brag about.

Tell you what Eagle, why don't you actually learn some history and do a bit of minor research and then you won't end up posting so much rubbish. You might actually gain some credibility.

Tell you what... why don't you suck it up and have a taste of your own medicine. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

Of course what can I expect from anyone who actually tries to defend an intellectual butterfly like Bachmann and who tries to pass off quotes from the person he is replying to as his own?

LMAO. Are you well?

Yes, that's what I said. It's a NATO mission. NATO agreed on the embargo, NATO agreed to take control of the no-fly zone.

No fly zone? Are you still buying that? We already had the discussion of all the blown up flying tanks, destroyed flying truck convoys, and the blown up flying Libyan infrastructure.

NATO's airstrikes destroy 25 Libyan tanks

Are you really calling this bombing campiagn a No-Fly Zone?


Canada is the lead. Just like we (The US) are given blame for all the woes in the NATO Mission in Afghanistan... now Canada shall for Libya. Are things becoming clearer for you two?
 

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The U.S. has already pulled back,"the French and Italians have sent their aircraft carriers home. The British have withdrawn their spy plane. Canada is pulling out air crews. The Danes are running out of bombs. And the Norwegians have dropped out entirely.
As their Libyan rebel allies finally are showing progress on the battlefield, members of the NATO alliance are scraping and scrounging these days to keep the five-month air campaign against Moammar Gadhafi’s government aloft long enough to make it to the finish line." This is a pathetic little war staged by pathetic little (European) countries trying to stay in the game with the big boys.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/aug/20/natos-libya-support-ebbing/
 

Tonington

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No fly zone? Are you still buying that?

Does it really matter? That's politics. Call it whatever you like, I don't really care. It was NATO that agreed to whatever you would prefer to call it, not Canada alone.
 

Bar Sinister

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Well you know how we get blamed for everything in Afghanistan? Since Afghanistan is a NATO Mission yet we are still fully responsible for every death friend or foe?

Well you're in charge in Libya so now CANADA gets to have the full blame.

Fun isn't it?
Fine, have it your way. Ghaddafi appears to be out. I guess Canada can take full credit. Thanks for the pat on the back, although certain other American members of the forum may not be quite so pleased to see how you have dismissed the US effort in Libya. And yes, making you look like an idiot is quite amusing, especially when you do your best to help the process along.


Tell you what... why don't you suck it up and have a taste of your own medicine. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.
I guess you better start proving it then. You have not exactly been lighting up the forum of late with your brilliance. I expect the forgetting part is getting in the way of intelligent commentary.
 

EagleSmack

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Fine, have it your way. Ghaddafi appears to be out. I guess Canada can take full credit. Thanks for the pat on the back, although certain other American members of the forum may not be quite so pleased to see how you have dismissed the US effort in Libya. And yes, making you look like an idiot is quite amusing, especially when you do your best to help the process along.

Ahhhh ha. You spoke to soon! Congrats! But it looks like you gave us more credit in pointing out earlier that our contribution was greater. I am well aware of our contribution and Canada leading the way. Its good to have the Yanks on your side eh?

But congrats on leading what appears to have been a successfull bombing campaign.

I just hope we've seen the last shot.

Because if you're declaring victory... and there is unrest after tonight...

Well...

Then accept the consequences.

I guess you better start proving it then. You have not exactly been lighting up the forum of late with your brilliance. I expect the forgetting part is getting in the way of intelligent commentary.

Let's hope you don't forget. You KNOW I won't!
 

Ocean Breeze

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my goodness. It sure would be nice if folks would stay on topic. It would also be nice if the narrow minded , all or nothing mentality learned that nothing is ever black or white. A Canadian might be in charge at NATO..........but that does NOT mean CANADA is running this show in Libya. . The US made sure that this little exercise was done under the umbrella of NATO so the blame could be spread around.....but while the US was still the thrust behind the endeavor. Lots of political manipulation on that one.

And IF the US were not the thrust behind all this........then why is Obama making comments while he is on vacation. Why don't the updates as events unfold come from NATO leadership?? All is seldom as it appears.

BTW: Good post Bar S.