Michelle Bachmann March to 2012

damngrumpy

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The Tea Party goes much further than taking the view of spending less money than they take in.
They are a coalition of distortions. While appearing to be fiscal conservatives, they are also those
who espouse those social conservative views. This woman is homophobic, she believes in the
fundamentalist Christian, vision that the Holy Spirit is guiding the path of the social conservative
movement yadda yadda yadda.
She won, a little state election, and bought votes to do it. Even worse she is distorting the legitimate
conservative message and she is an embarrassment to the their party. yes I am left when it comes
to social progress. And yes I am fiscally conservative when it co, mes to paying for those programs.
You should not spend more than you take in. you are right. When times get tough however, every
part of the society should be stepping up to the plate. I for example believe, the rich should pay their
share, the middle class should do their part and even those on social assistance should pay at lest
ten dollars from their check to include themselves in their obligation to the society.
Look behind curtain number three, the Tea Party and many who finance people like this are really big
oil tycoons and others. The Tea Party is not a grass roots movement, its a manufactured group and it
will pay for holding up the business of government.
The problem America got itself into is that it can't borrow anymore money to finance its incompetence.
At the same time if it cuts its expenses all at once the social fabric of the country would crumble and
the social unrest would cost a lot more than the budget cuts. Yes the budgets have to be reduced and
it has to be done in an orderly fashion to sustain the nation while improving the future benefit to the
country.
Paul Martin like him or love him he is the one who set Canada up to be of less impact than the rest of the
western world. While he reduced the budget cut programs and brought the finances under control he
did it without a slash and burn of every bit of social progress we made since WWII.
If the People like this woman get their way America will deflate and explode like a paper bag.
 

DaSleeper

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Republicans aren't known for their intelligence.



One of the weirdest moments of last night's Repulbican debate probably slipped completely under the radar for most viewers. This moment occurred in Herman Cain's closing statement, when the former pizza-chain CEO recited a favorite inspirational quote: "A poet once said, 'life can be a challenge, life can seem impossible, but it's never easy when there's so much on the line.'"

Nothing strange about that on the surface, until you Google the quote and you realize that these words of wisdom were uttered not by a poet, but by disco queen Donna Summer in her song "The Power of One." Even more bizarre, this isn't even one of Summer's classic hits — she recorded it just over a decade ago as the theme song for Pokémon: The Movie 2000.

Ironic......
If someone on the right were to say that about a Black Democratic contender....the left would call him a racist....
 

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Yes Grumpy... it is very important that the Liberals and Democrats paint the Tea Party as Right Wing lunatics. The Tea Party scares the heck out of libs and Dems. Not only that... the Tea Party is vocal and the Libs here in the US are not used to conservatives protesting and voicing thier opinion.

And how do liberals and Democrats do this? Marginalization and paint their opposition as crazy and racist homophobes that is how. They try and put them on the defensive so they will spend more time defending themselves than pushing an agenda. Like cutting big government and not spending more than what is brought in. What a novel idea eh?
 

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You didn't know that Herman Cain is Black???

what the hell is your point?
I said republicans aren't know for their intelligence, which is entirely true. I provided one example that this moron Herman Cain quoted a Pokemon song (LOL) and you start crying racism? WTF?!
 

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Ironic......
If someone on the right were to say that about a Black Democratic contender....the left would call him a racist....

what the hell is your point?
I said republicans aren't know for their intelligence, which is entirely true. I provided one example that this moron Herman Cain quoted a Pokemon song (LOL) and you start crying racism? WTF?!

Do you have a reading problem?...where did I call you a racist?
Not my fault if you didn't even know that the man was black:lol:
 

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You didn't know that Herman Cain is Black???

Since when have the party of slavery not been racists? One of the first phone calls I got after Obama won was from a Liberal Democrat relative to say as he gloated...

"Ahhh Haaaaa... the N***** won!"

Massachusetts is a strong Democrat Liberal state and of course known for it racists liberals.

As one reporter put it... All the people of Cambridge love the little black children... until they want to build a school for black kids in Harvard Square."

Cambridge being the Home of Harvard University and Social Progressives. A group from the inner city of Boston wanted to build a new school for African-American kids in Harvard Square. Of course the NIMBY liberals squashed that real quick! Not in their backyard!

And our Liberal Democrat Speaker of the House Thomas Finneran pleading guilty to a felony for attempting to gerrymander growing black neighborhoods and dice them up so liberal white democrats can keep their seats.

Yup... that's our US Democrat Liberals!
 

EagleSmack

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. The Tea Party is not a grass roots movement, its a manufactured group and it
will pay for holding up the business of government.
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It's grass roots and the libs know it... that is why it scares the heck out of them. That is why they have to marginalize them.
 

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The mainstream of the Republican Party has always had some very good points and some good
policy. I don't deny that some I agree with. The Democrats have always had some good and some
very bad policy and that too is fact. However the Tea Party is vocal, and that is not the problem.
The Tea Party is a somewhat a kin to a fringe festival in the midst of a political debate. They are a
simplistic lot that does not understand the complexities of running a society for all concerned.
The mainstream Republicans, are having an awful time with with this crowd. The problem is by the
time the election rolls around the Tea Party will no longer be the flavor of the month and the
Republican mainstream will pay the price for that. One should be careful about using the world Liberal
in America because there are none. There is only degrees of conservatism. Yes Obama is no Liberal.
He is in fact a middle of the road opportunist, as is many of the Republicans.
The only one who might be a Liberal is Joe Biden.
Americans have concentrated on themselves in the world to the point of narcissism that is why they have
so much trouble adapting to reality that has caught up to them. For decades they have been living in a
dreamworld and the rest of the people on the planet passed them. The reason? groups like the Tea
Party and the Christina Coalition, and elements of the Democratic party, didn't understand how fast the
world was catching up to them. American foreign policy is always trying to figure out how to make the
world a reflection of themselves. The problem is if you don't understand how other cultures live and you
don't want to understand that they do things differently. you cannot communicate in real terms and you
can't see reality because America is looking in the mirror for its own image, instead of what is looking
back in the mirror. All the parties, Tea Party, Republicans and Democrats, and even the Black Caucus,
have to offer is rhetoric, and slogans and labels. What they all really need is vision, leadership and
some real down home courage. That comes from compromise, ethics and trust and that is in real short
supply all round. Michelle doesn't even register on that scale, so her vision of the world is even worse
than most. In the final accounting she won't get anywhere near the oval office because mainstream
America will figure her out and the Tea Party as well
 

EagleSmack

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However the Tea Party is vocal, and that is not the problem.

That IS the problem as well as becoming a power to reckon with at the polls.

The Tea Party is a somewhat a kin to a fringe festival in the midst of a political debate. They are a
simplistic lot that does not understand the complexities of running a society for all concerned.

Ahhh... whereas the Democrats have all the answers and know better than anyone.

The mainstream Republicans, are having an awful time with with this crowd. The problem is by the
time the election rolls around the Tea Party will no longer be the flavor of the month and the
Republican mainstream will pay the price for that.

Actually it was the Democrats that paid the price last time did they not?

One should be careful about using the world Liberal
in America because there are none.

Oh please... that is another Canadian myth. The Liberals here in the US would give any Liberal there in Canada a run for their money.

You Grumpy would fit right in here in Massachusetts... but you wouldn't stand out.

There is only degrees of conservatism. Yes Obama is no Liberal.

Of course he is... he just can't get what he wants done.

The only one who might be a Liberal is Joe Biden.

Make up your mind then

Americans have concentrated on themselves in the world to the point of narcissism that is why they have
so much trouble adapting to reality that has caught up to them. For decades they have been living in a
dreamworld and the rest of the people on the planet passed them.

The rest of the world has passed us? The whole world? In what way?

The reason? groups like the Tea
Party and the Christina Coalition, and elements of the Democratic party, didn't understand how fast the
world was catching up to them.

How is the WHOLE WORLD catching up?

American foreign policy is always trying to figure out how to make the
world a reflection of themselves. The problem is if you don't understand how other cultures live and you
don't want to understand that they do things differently.

Yes... Americans do not understand other cultures. Good grief.

you cannot communicate in real terms and you
can't see reality because America is looking in the mirror for its own image, instead of what is looking
back in the mirror.


Usually when I look in the mirror I expect to see my own image and usually it is looking back at me.

How did you come up with that one?

All the parties, Tea Party, Republicans and Democrats, and even the Black Caucus,
have to offer is rhetoric, and slogans and labels. What they all really need is vision, leadership and
some real down home courage. That comes from compromise, ethics and trust and that is in real short
supply all round. Michelle doesn't even register on that scale, so her vision of the world is even worse
than most. In the final accounting she won't get anywhere near the oval office because mainstream
America will figure her out and the Tea Party as well

Plus Michelle is a Conservative Woman and we all know in the US that conservative women are fair game for sexism and ridicule by the US Liberals.
 
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Point taken. (agree) Makes one wonder why they spend zillions in bucks "electing" a figure head. and maintaining what amounts to a ritual.

There is a simple reason for biennial and quadrennial political rituals in the USA.

The easiest way to control a population is with the tacit agreement of that population. Give people the illusion that what they think and how they vote really matters while controlling the real power from behind the scenes and they will willingly consent to be ruled by the establishment. Elections may be a charade, but they serve a real purpose; making voters believe that they actually live in a democracy.

Other methods of control such as those used in the USSR ultimately fail and are rather expensive and counter-productive as they require an extensive network of informers and secret police and tend to completely stifle initiative and creativity.
 

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There is a simple reason for biennial and quadrennial political rituals in the USA.

The easiest way to control a population is with the tacit agreement of that population. Give people the illusion that what they think and how they vote really matters while controlling the real power from behind the scenes and they will willingly consent to be ruled by the establishment. Elections may be a charade, but they serve a real purpose; making voters believe that they actually live in a democracy.

Other methods of control such as those used in the USSR ultimately fail and are rather expensive and counter-productive as they require an extensive network of informers and secret police and tend to completely stifle initiative and creativity.

We live in a Republic... not a real democracy. Elected officials represent those that have elected them.

Why pray tell can a handfull of Republicans hold up a whole vote? Because they are bound to their promises to those that elected them. Cut back government...no new taxes. Compromise was an option but they chose to stand by their promises in this case.

Good attempt though. ;)