Freedom of Speech threatened??

YukonJack

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I think the muslims living in Jerusalem and the west bank might not be too receptive to that, ohh well. Would make for some interesting news.

Of course, Bible burning in Islamabad or Lahore or Mecca is not only tolerated but actively encouraged by the authorities there. Those joyous occasions are usually accompanied by a few beheadings of Christians and/or Jews. No big deal, that's not news.
 

DurkaDurka

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Of course, Bible burning in Islamabad or Lahore or Mecca is not only tolerated but actively encouraged by the authorities there. Those joyous occasions are usually accompanied by a few beheadings of Christians and/or Jews. No big deal, that's not news.

The difference being that Jerusalem has a majority muslim population, I believe. Regardless, I have no love lost for anyone who beheads people in the name of their "god". I would say it is a pretty big deal when those events occurr and they are reported, YukonJack.
 

petros

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Recently a Canadian Corp had the Govt block the sale a of a book in Canada. It wasn't a racist or hate filled book. It just told FACTS about a Canadian company doing really sh!tty business practises and breaking international & Canadian law that CPP is invested heavily in.

I love dictatorships.
 

DurkaDurka

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Recently a Canadian Corp had the Govt block the sale a of a book in Canada. It wasn't a racist or hate filled book. It just told FACTS about a Canadian company doing really sh!tty business practises and breaking international & Canadian law that CPP is invested heavily in.

I love dictatorships.

Who decides if a book can be banned in Canada??
 

petros

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Who decides if a book can be banned in Canada??
Courts.

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petros

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Of course, Bible burning in Islamabad or Lahore or Mecca is not only tolerated but actively encouraged by the authorities there. Those joyous occasions are usually accompanied by a few beheadings of Christians and/or Jews. No big deal, that's not news.
WTF are Jews and Christians doing in Mecca?


More B U L L S H I T?
 

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Of course, Bible burning in Islamabad or Lahore or Mecca is not only tolerated but actively encouraged by the authorities there. Those joyous occasions are usually accompanied by a few beheadings of Christians and/or Jews. No big deal, that's not news.

We have gone over this several times - if you bothered to read the Koran you would know that the Bible is held sacred according to Koranic teaching. These reports which tell you that Muslims burn the Bible are total bigoted garbage. I can repeat that for you again a few more dozen times or you can read the Koran yourself.
 

petros

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I'm pretty sure you can buy it from Amazon.ca.
No problem if you order it from the US but there are no copies legally in Canada.

We have gone over this several times - if you bothered to read the Koran you would know that the Bible is held sacred according to Koranic teaching. These reports which tell you that Muslims burn the Bible are total bigoted garbage. I can repeat that for you again a few more dozen times or you can read the Koran yourself.
Atilla Jack has a melon made of rock oak.
 

B00Mer

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Freedom of Speech threatened?? Canada not effected. Canada has no Freedom of Speech.

The United States has it, rght in the constitution, but Canada... show me in the Charter where Freedom of Speech is protected. I hope Haper on his efforts to Americanize Canada, elected senators, two tier medical system, military bases in foreign nations, hope he toss out th Charter of Rights and creates a new Canadian Constitution..
 

Cliffy

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Freedom of Speech threatened?? Canada not effected. Canada has no Freedom of Speech.

The United States has it, rght in the constitution, but Canada... show me in the Charter where Freedom of Speech is protected. I hope Haper on his efforts to Americanize Canada, elected senators, two tier medical system, military bases in foreign nations, hope he toss out th Charter of Rights and creates a new Canadian Constitution..
Like that is likely to happen! In his bid to Americanize Canada, he is more likely to sell us out all together. Or he might give us a new constitution that makes him king for life.
 

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I don't think any book should be banned. If one can get Mein Kampf at amazon.ca then there is no book that should be banned. Also, I should note I'm agnostic with atheist leanings and find the "holy books" of all religions to be neat pieces of literature but nothing to base one's life around.

So if we're going to make blasphemy laws we should also protect fan clubs of other books too. I'm in favor of neither. If you want to believe crazy things be prepared to be treated like a crazy person.
 

Cliffy

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That brings up the religious continually condemning atheists to hell. If I were an atheist I would argue that that is blasphemy against my beliefs too. I don't believe in any religion but I do lean toward the Cree and Sioux view of cosmology. Many a Christian has condemned me to hell for being a Satan worshiper because of my views, so ya, I want equal protection from any anti-blasphemy laws.
 

In Between Man

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I want equal protection from any anti-blasphemy laws.

Anti-blasphemy laws only destroy freedom of speech. If I can be charged for telling atheists they're going to hell, isn't proclaiming Jesus Christ as the ONLY way, truth, and life implying the same thing, not just to atheists, but Muslims etc.? What about just telling a Muslim that his religion is simply "false"? What about pointing out to a Muslim the fact that Mohammad had sex with 9 year old girl? What about an atheist telling Christians their faith is "false"?

Anyone should be free to criticize or even reasonably insult any religion or philosophy they want to. It's called freedom of speech. Period.

--------- The line.

On that side of the line you have CRITICISM and INSULTS, which should be protected under free speech. Yet on this side of the line when we have the "religion" of Islam, which advocates death to the enemies of Islam, death for leaving Islam(which is slavery), death for insulting Islam, and permits its followers to lie in order to further the dominance of Islam, we don't have a "religion" anymore. We have dangerous political movement that goes beyond using "hate speech" or insults and criticism. What really gases those of us who know better is when people have the audacity to call Islam a "religion of peace"!!! WAKE UP!
 

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Ironically, Geert Wilders is by no means a free speech advocate himself. So now that the Dutch have stopped Muslims from silencing Geert Wilders, they need to stop Geert Wilders from silencing Muslims.
 

In Between Man

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Ironically, Geert Wilders is by no means a free speech advocate himself. So now that the Dutch have stopped Muslims from silencing Geert Wilders, they need to stop Geert Wilders from silencing Muslims.

Disagreed. They, and us, need to tell Muslims that if they want to practice their religion in our countries then they have to expunge all references to killing Jews, Christians and non-believers, and spreading Islam through Jihad and violence. Otherwise they're not welcome in our country, and we're going to shut down their mosques, and stop Muslim immigration, and even deport.
 
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