Angola, as a case in point, simply fought itself to exhaustion.........hardly a place to list as a great success for the UN
International Law is a horrendous joke.
It's been a wonderful success for China.
Take a guess why we are really in Libya.
Angola, as a case in point, simply fought itself to exhaustion.........hardly a place to list as a great success for the UN
International Law is a horrendous joke.
When they started asking for a set portion of our GDP in cash it made me think twice about the direction they are leading us.
If you want to end up with a Maoist come industrial Canada like their darling China you go right ahead and keep on supporting them.
Pero's, we don't do it because the UN asks, we do it because Bono asks. When Bono speaks, he's listened to, he is a pop musician after all.
Yeah screw that! If you really want to know what is really going on what you do is ask a politician or a member of top brass government and they will tell you what's what and where the money should really go. Like Muskoka in Tony Clement's riding for example.
It's simple, go to Africa and spend a little time there. You'll get it before long. People need help and there are those who want to help them but lack the money and support to do that. Along with those who want to control the people by fear and murder, there are also scam artists who love to soak the West for aid. Often both groups have plenty of guns to back them up. Also part of the aid sent from developed countries. Those politicians don't talk about that part very much.
I respect your reasoning but I am personally more concerned about the situation at home, I would rather gamble our money on our own people opposed to people in a distant land with little return on the investment. It is not out duty or obligation to fix the various problems in Africa, the various countries of the continent need to figure that out them selves.
We caused plenty of them not to mention our wealth next to the wealth of the average African. Forget religion, morals dictate we reduce needless suffering when we can when we see it.
No one in Canada is without potable water for any other reason than greed. There is no one here that can't be cared for by the social infrastructure we have in place. If you work for it, you can bring yourself out of poverty here. Not in Africa. There is a huge difference.
Our problem isn't that we don't have enough, but instead we don't care enough.
When they started asking for a set portion of our GDP in cash it made me think twice about the direction they are leading us.
eradication program for polio
Universal Declaration of Rights.
Some Peacekeeping.
Angola
International Law -
Forgive my ignorance of Africa, but what specifically has Canada done to Africa or are you speaking of a broader Western guilt? If morals dictate we fix what is broken, we would run out of money quick. There are many other underdeveloped and extremely poor countries besides the African one's, they don't seem to get the Bono endorsement though.
We have had many cases of reserves having substandard drinking water in the past which cannot be blamed solely on greed, incompetence and poor planning/design being big contributers as well. It's a delusional pipe dream to think that we can lift Africa out of poverty, it will never happen. We have been shoveling money over there for decades now with little positive results.
You're right, we don't care enough but perhaps that it is due to donor fatigue, shoveling money into a bottomless pit of corruption & waste.
If corruption and waste is in the system it's our duty to clean it up. We dole out the money and aid and we choose who it goes to. If we're making bad choices that way we need to change those people who dole it out so that the aid gets where it's supposed to go.
For 50 bonsu points, who was the driving force behind the polio eradicaton program?
Well for starters Africa is a continent not a country. There are many countries within Africa.
Colonization that often traded guns for Ivory, Nuts and Palm oil is the basis for it. It lead eventually to a destabilized politically and socially. Infrastructure was created to serve European investment and boundaries were drawn up based on their wishes. Amalgamation of some 10,000 pre-existing political units into about 40 and at the same time communities bisected and trisected which mostly reflects the countries today.
Canada as part of her Royal Majesty's Empire ay one time are very much responsible for the problems in Africa. Cutting it into countries without regard to tribal territorial boundary's.
Canada as part of her Royal Majesty's Empire ay one time are very much responsible for the problems in Africa. Cutting it into countries without regard to tribal territorial boundary's.
Your whole line seems to be off on a tangent but one point I will raise to you, is that Canada wasn't even around as a nation to be involved in colonial Africa. Sure, we were around for the end but we were only a fledging nation ourselves, so saying Canada is to blame for the ills there is a bit of a stretch. We've tried to help at times, with mixed results, but it has never really been our mess to feel guilty about. We have our own here at home.
If corruption and waste are part of the existing culture, then the only sure way to eliminate it is to refuse to supply any aid or do any business with those who support that culture... in other words, let them sort themselves out. We can't make choices for others, and its as wrong of us (if not worse in some cases) to support bad choices as to just let people deal with their own problems.
If that's the case, then Barbados, Bahamas, Australia even Ghana etc etc are also responsible for imperialism in Africa?
Remember when we used to go around at Halloween with UNICEF boxes to collect change that funded the Small Pox/Polio program instead of illegal flat taxes on our GDP? I do. At that time vaccines were public domain too and dirt cheap.RCS
I was referring to programs such as the eradication of Polio- One problem with the UN and NGO that go in after a disaster are the taxes that are paid on emergency supplies and any thing that is used.
Set aside for a moment the moral obligation for those with to help those without, your argument fails in the same way that someone arguing the US shouldn't help Canada should it come to pass, because what has Canada to do with the US? Or why should Canada help the US.
We've taken huge amounts of resources out of Africa not to mention many of the smartest people there in the brain drain of Africa.
You can as it is your right, sit next to a starving kid and eat most of a huge hamburger and feed the rest to the pigeons all you want. But that doesn't mean everyone has to.
People in Africa are suffering. Some of that suffering is caused by people of our country. There is a history between the people of Canada and the people of Africa. We should acknowledge that and pay our respects not just as a good and upstanding country, but as brothers and sisters to those people there who are good people just like you find here. That kind of thing could use a little support too.
Wait until fuel prices jump again because oil pumping in SE SK and West MB has halted. I can hear it already.People in Weyburn Sask are suffering as a result of Canadian tax dollars being diverted from Canada to Africa.
Where is your moral indignation on this issue or are the peoples of Africa more morally deserving than an impoverished family in Canada?
You're kidding right? Canada was involved in the Boer war on behalf of Imperial Britain's colonization of Africa.
We sent troops there to fight. Further, there have been and currently are Canadian companies in mining and oil resource management in Africa today. Many of the people that had to evac from Lybia are there working for Canadian companies. All those resources didn't just dig themselves up and make their way to Canadian refineries all on their own.
Preposterous! Taking that advice we would not do a single thing because there sometimes are bad things that come with the good. Some people cheat on their taxes, go ahead and try not paying yours and see where that gets you.
Set aside for a moment the moral obligation for those with to help those without, your argument fails in the same way that someone arguing the US shouldn't help Canada should it come to pass, because what has Canada to do with the US? Or why should Canada help the US.
We've taken huge amounts of resources out of Africa not to mention many of the smartest people there in the brain drain of Africa.
You can as it is your right, sit next to a starving kid and eat most of a huge hamburger and feed the rest to the pigeons all you want. But that doesn't mean everyone has to.
People in Africa are suffering. Some of that suffering is caused by people of our country. There is a history between the people of Canada and the people of Africa. We should acknowledge that and pay our respects not just as a good and upstanding country, but as brothers and sisters to those people there who are good people just like you find here. That kind of thing could use a little support too.
There are a lot of fingers in that pie mate. I will say that someone's refusal of a moral debt, doesn't change that of your own one iota.
Tell that to a Congolese that has been shot at by Barrack Gold hired guns.Again, there is no Canadian debt to Africa.