I think you do damngrumpy a disservice there, Angstrom, he's not a preacher and doesn't believe in fairy tales, seems to me he's promoting tolerance of ideas and arguments he disagrees with.
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What if your religion involves various mushrooms, herbs, roots, barks, fruits, needles, natural oils, fats and cacti flesh that not only brings you excellent heallth which is the removal of the biggest block to achieving a state of grace and respect for the powers that be?
A polluted body makes for a polluted mind, a polluted soul and a polluted connection to the powers that be.
I'm tolerant to others opinion and believe as long as your open to other ideas then your own.
Eanassir is worst then a born again. Narrow minded, and primitive. He wants others to consider
Adding to there religion but he preaches without being open minded about others,
and he himself is not open to changing his religion.
He's a walking contradiction. A mindless follower with no thoughts of his own.
I laugh at him cause in his hole thread, he not once consider taking up a new religion for himself.
The day he considers my opinions of what God may be, is the day I'll lissen to his little book of propaganda. Let him practice what he preaches.
Can't argue with that, but it seemed from the context of your previous post it was damngrumpy you were addressing critically, not eanassir.
I only felt he was defending eanassir from me laughing at him.
Anyways as you can see in my last post im not critical at
damngrumpy. I'm just defending my rudeness to a mindless
Blind follower of a very old Population control propaganda method.
I have no problem eanessir believing in this crap. From that to going
on a public place and spewing his propaganda is two different things.
He has freedom of speech just the same as I. My opinion is he's been
spoon feed to belive this BS.
Just out of curiousity, what sort of spititual experiences or epiphanies have you had all by your lonesome without any religious influences or without drugs?
What did you find? Did you want to share what brought you joy or did you just keep it to yourself? Did it give you faith?
What are the arguments or proofs of the Bahai?
What are their principles of faith?
Don't say: forgiveness and tolerance ...etc.
You're asking me? I would assume that if you know they're wrong, you'd also know what they are.
Jews said many things that God did not say. Christians, as it is so obvious, said many things and believed that Jesus did not say; and similarly Muslims invented many things and said many words that God did not say in the Quran, neither did Mohammed say such words.
Muslims invented things that became arguments against them: of such things invented by Muslims: is the marriage of the Prophet to Aisha daughter of Abu Bakr. I discussed this many times before, and almost she was young but not child when he married her.
On the other hand, to marry more than one wife is not compulsory, it is voluntary on condition that the man will be just among his wives in bed, provision of food and dress and other things.
When wars, e.g., take place and the number of the women will be far more than the number of men specially during the productive period of man and woman, then the marriage of more than one woman will be the solution, or else the corruption of the community and the prevalence of the adultery: like what happened in the European countries following the two world wars.
So if man can afford the provision of his wives and is just with them, and they agree and are chaste, then what's the problem?
Moreover, many prophets like Abraham, Jacob, David and Solomon and others all of them had many wives.
While as regards to John Baptist, he was killed at a relatively young age.
And about Jesus Christ:
He was created without father, then if he had had any son, the lineage of this son will be problematic: who will be his grandfather?
Moreover, Jesus was an angel who came from heaven to carry out a certain duty, then he returned relatively quickly to heaven, and had no time. And he wanted to occupy himself with his mission, while if he had had any son, then that son would have detracted him from his task.
And Jesus certainly had his wives in heaven.
You told us they are good, so almost you know their principles.
Your ignorance of western values and what makes western countries great countries to live in is quite astounding.
Western countries are mainly Christian countries based on Christian ideology.
No western country wants to build a country where a man (or women) has many wives. This is just stupid and is one of the many reasons Muslim countries are sh^thole countries and why Muslims, like you, want to immigrate to western countries. The problem western countries have with muslims is that they bring their garbage ways with them when they come here. They bring their sh^thole ways, like many wives, with them and they are too stubborn to accept western ways.
I'll try to keep it simple.
I think our universe is the inside of a living thing.
Just the same as there is living things inside of our body.
And inside of those little living things there are other living things
on, and on and on.
Just the same way as we are in a living thing and that living thing is inside
of a even bigger living thing and on and on and on.
That's what I believe. Feel free to agree or disagree, I only shared it cause you asked.
To be honest at this point I see the human race more as a cancer inside whatever
body we are live in. I think a grasshopper is possibly millions of times closer to "God" then
all the humans combined together. Like all living cells inside our body they all have a
Purpose, a goal for the great good of the hole body. I think we have totally lost touch
Of what our goal as a living thing is. And I'll go as far as to say that Religion had a role
To play in messing that up.
Again that's just my personal opinion.
You can have up to 4 wives. It sounds like Eanassir likes this marriage arrangement.
Ummmm, I just wonder, how do you service 4 wives, ie all at the same time, different wives on different days,,, hhmmm sounds like a delima to me????
Oh wise man Eanassir, maybe you could tell us infedels, just how do Muslims manage this sick way of living arrangements??
An inventive guy should be able to figure that one out for himself ;-) smiling all the while....
No, that's not what I said, I said only that they're a reworking and modernization of Islam that appear to me to offer a more charitable view than Islam does. If your presentation of Islam is any guide, they're also much more coherent and consistent. That doesn't mean I think they're good, what I think in fact is that they're just more of the same mystic nonsense all religious belief promotes, from its false premise that there's at least one supernatural being that has some interest in us.
One of my closest relatives is a Baha'i, as it happens, and I've talked and written a lot about this with her, so I do know their principles. I was asking if YOU know them, and if you don't, how can you know they're wrong? The same logic you use to argue that Jews and Christians should add Islam to their faith works just as well for arguing that Muslims should add the Baha'i faith to Islam. That in fact was its founders' intent. And you reject the argument in that form for the same reasons Jews and Christians reject yours in favour of adopting Islam.
The way I see it is similar. The Universe is the ultimate living organism. Every living thing from galaxies to planets to microbes are all part of this living Universe. We are but one tiny species living on a relatives miniscule, insignificant speck of dust in this vast Universe. But every living thing has it influence on the whole. As the indigenous people saw, life is a web, all inter connected and inter dependent. Though tiny, we do influence the whole. How much is the question.
The idea that God or this living thing we are inside sent us a supernatural (Jesus) being to die for us for our sin, is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard in my life. Give me a break. What a bunch of BS
Some of the things that he is said to have told are kind and warm hearted and that's great. But
After everything die's all soul's return to the source. Not just a select few like religion try's to spoon feed you. That's just plain old population Control. What a bunch of horse crap. There selling you
the key to salvation. Give me a freeken break. You have to be a total retard to believe that.
Religions invented Scare mongering
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Please elaborate on this. You believe a person has a soul, and that it returns to its "source" after mortal death?
The Source is the Universe, the source of all life in the Universe. But I think this thing about people having souls is back asswards. Souls have people. Souls can have many different bodies in many different time frames, all of which are here to experience life to the fullest to add to the overall experience of the Source. Eventually all souls return to the Source from whence they came. It has been said that people are spiritual beings having a human experience and that people are the eyes and ears of god experiencing life on Earth. Religion has been keeping the knowledge of our true nature from us in order to control us, because if we knew how god like, how creative we really are, we would not need religion or control.
Every spiritual, religious and philosophical book I read lead me to the inevitable conclusion that we are our own gods and goddesses, that we create our own reality and that all the spiritual practices in the world were designed to bring us to that knowledge. Religion is a lie, God, heaven and hell are lies. Heaven and hell are what we make of our lives. All the holy books were written as metaphors for life. They were never meant to be taken literally. Taking them literally is the lie of religion.
Religious and spiritual books are fingers pointing the way back to the Source. But most people stop and suck on them for nourishment instead of going in the way they are pointing.
Yes they have taken pictures with special cameras of souls and life energy leaving the body at death.
There is some scientific proof of this phenomenon. Not a hole lot, but some strong proof exists.
There's not much money being donated to prove it 100% since that would take several scientist to
Run many different experiments. Usually scientist only study things that billions of dollars are available for. And proving soul's are real, is not one of them.
The part I believe without proof is, The universe is the inside of a living body and at death your energy go's back to the universe. Like a drop of water slowly making its way back to the sea by natural forces
of pressure.
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