Does Layton know when to keep his mouth shut?

taxslave

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Probably not at all. I would also take it as a good sign that we're heading the right direction.
how about you explain how taking a violent left turn out of the ball court could possibly be good for working people, unless you happen to be a government employee? In which case you wouldn't really be working anyway.
 

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Layton goes up in the polls and the stock market drops.....hmmm......coincidense?????

It started coming up from where it was in mid-April, roughly when Layton's support started growing. It had gone down after the election was called. Coincidence? Well yes actually, that's the definition of coincidence. Cause? Unknown. :lol:
 

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It started coming up from where it was in mid-April, roughly when Layton's support started growing. It had gone down after the election was called. Coincidence? Well yes actually, that's the definition of coincidence. Cause? Unknown. :lol:


I love how colour is orange. Coincidence? lol
 

JLM

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I wouldn't count him out, and I don't think it's stupid or affects his credibility at all.

It's optimism, and that's a good thing.

If a majority think as you do, then he's not as stupid as I thought, but I was wrong a time or two before. :lol:

he's always had the gift of the gab, he's a good speaker, and a political veteran now.

it's obvious the people are sick to death of the same ole same ole, and maybe for once
the people will make a difference in this election, and not be stuck in a rut as they have
been for years.

lets shake up that parliament, big time, and force those lieing 'bas**rds' in the
other two parties, that we are fed up with their antics.

Yep, a good shaking up would be good, as long as we don't "throw the baby out with the bath water". :lol:

how about you explain how taking a violent left turn out of the ball court could possibly be good for working people, unless you happen to be a government employee? In which case you wouldn't really be working anyway.

It may be more fitting to amend that to "government bureaucrat"- the guys on the end of the shovels are OK. :smile:
 

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He's been riding a roller coaster for several days because of his personality and his ability to know what people want to hear and having the sense to say it. Now he is saying he can beat Stephen Harper. Once a guy starts telling blatant lies that even Little Red Riding wouldn't believe, his credibility is out the window. Stupid bastard! :roll:

The thing is, many other people have been saying he could beat Harper long before he started to say it..... the only difference is that he waited until there was some actual evidence backing his claims up.

News reports, polls, studies and educated opinions have all said that it can either be a Conservative Minority government, with the Cons holding less power then they ever did before, or an NDP minority.

He stands a better chance at beating Harper then Iggy, and is only a few % points below him. A lot can change in the next few hours, where that gap can either narrow, widen or disappear all together & his party wins.

Time will tell.

Blatant lies?

Me thinks not..... maybe you should look at Harper and the lies he's been spewing.

how about you explain how taking a violent left turn out of the ball court could possibly be good for working people, unless you happen to be a government employee? In which case you wouldn't really be working anyway.

How about you explain how the Conservatives have done anything to make things better for the working people, other then tossing a few part-time, temp jobs here and there?

Frig, McDonalds can do better then Harper when it comes to Job creation.
 

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This could work as a disadvantage too.

It has worked that way against the conservatives when they crept toward majority territory where the swing vote got nervous and shifted left.

If it looked as though Layton might actually win that could be enough worry for the undecided and cause a slide to the right.
 

JLM

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Blatant lies?

Me thinks not..... maybe you should look at Harper and the lies he's been spewing.



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Actually I think it's pretty much a dead heat, both of them are willing to do whatever it takes- if he takes more seats than Harper I'll apologize- until then I say he's lying and I say he knows it. :lol:

This could work as a disadvantage too.

It has worked that way against the conservatives when they crept toward majority territory where the swing vote got nervous and shifted left.

If it looked as though Layton might actually win that could be enough worry for the undecided and cause a slide to the right.

Do the undecideds really give a rat's ass?
 

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Be careful here there is a chance he could beat Harper as of today. If there is a heavy voter
turnout it won't be going in favour of the government. It never does in these situations. I was
talking earlier to some of the news people I know who have been preparing for tomorrow
night. The EKOS poll apparently if you break it down, and make adjustments for Ontario Tory
strength, and the fact it now looks like Quebec could be a sweep for the NDP. It is shaping up
to see almost every riding going orange. In Atlantic Canada the NDP has emerged the clear
leader. In BC the Tories and New Democrats will share the pie, they are dead even in fact some
are now speculating some of the riding's the NDP had outside the Lower Mainland may return to
them. The other interesting note is Manitoba, long considered a bell weather of surprises appears
to be sliding toward the NDP. Ontario is seeing a surge for NDP and close with them the Harper
Conservatives. Layton is going through or did earlier through some of those liberal riding's to
see if they can add to the list.
Adjust some territorial areas with the fact that women and the youth vote which appears to be coming
out in droves is primarily for change and will support the NDP this time.

Now am I holding my breath? No but then some media buffs and pundits are cautiously saying it is
possible depending on voter turnout. If you take the EKOS adjustments into consideration the NDP
and Conservatives are about 2..5 percentage points apart. Now its up to people to go out and vote.
There is a mathematical chance. The NANOS Poll is a two or three day snapshot and is based on
information that on average is two to four days old and the ground is shifting hourly.
The truth is no one knows for sure what Ontario will do and there in lies this election.
 

JLM

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Be careful here there is a chance he could beat Harper as of today. If there is a heavy voter
turnout it won't be going in favour of the government. It never does in these situations. I was
talking earlier to some of the news people I know who have been preparing for tomorrow
night. The EKOS poll apparently if you break it down, and make adjustments for Ontario Tory
strength, and the fact it now looks like Quebec could be a sweep for the NDP. It is shaping up
to see almost every riding going orange. In Atlantic Canada the NDP has emerged the clear
leader. In BC the Tories and New Democrats will share the pie, they are dead even in fact some
are now speculating some of the riding's the NDP had outside the Lower Mainland may return to
them. The other interesting note is Manitoba, long considered a bell weather of surprises appears
to be sliding toward the NDP. Ontario is seeing a surge for NDP and close with them the Harper
Conservatives. Layton is going through or did earlier through some of those liberal riding's to
see if they can add to the list.
Adjust some territorial areas with the fact that women and the youth vote which appears to be coming
out in droves is primarily for change and will support the NDP this time.

Now am I holding my breath? No but then some media buffs and pundits are cautiously saying it is
possible depending on voter turnout. If you take the EKOS adjustments into consideration the NDP
and Conservatives are about 2..5 percentage points apart. Now its up to people to go out and vote.
There is a mathematical chance. The NANOS Poll is a two or three day snapshot and is based on
information that on average is two to four days old and the ground is shifting hourly.
The truth is no one knows for sure what Ontario will do and there in lies this election.

The seniors generally have the highest representation at the polls and a lot of them are going to think twice before jeopardizing income splitting. Harper could just get a majority.
 

Avro

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The seniors generally have the highest representation at the polls and a lot of them are going to think twice before jeopardizing income splitting. Harper could just get a majority.

They may also think about cheaper meds, GST being removed from home heating, more doctors and better pension suppliments.
 

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I've paid more attention to this campaign than any other,mostly because I think harper is a lying sack of ****.This is how it will go,harper will come back with a smaller minority,Jack will be leader of the oposition and Iggy and the guy from Quebek will be filling out their cards at EI..So it is written.
 

JLM

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Yes I do.

So who did you decide? :lol:

I've paid more attention to this campaign than any other,mostly because I think harper is a lying sack of ****.This is how it will go,harper will come back with a smaller minority,Jack will be leader of the oposition and Iggy and the guy from Quebek will be filling out their cards at EI..So it is written.

Well, I think you got 1 out 3 right. :smile:
 

Machjo

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He's been riding a roller coaster for several days because of his personality and his ability to know what people want to hear and having the sense to say it. Now he is saying he can beat Stephen Harper. Once a guy starts telling blatant lies that even Little Red Riding wouldn't believe, his credibility is out the window. Stupid bastard! :roll:

Technically, the Green Party could form a government if we all went out and voted for it today, so to say he 'can' beat Harper is not a lie at all.

That said, boasting about 'beating' someone rather than just focusing on policy does come across as arrogant none the less, though granted Layton is not the only one guilty of that. Harper talking about majority comes across as arrogant too.
 

JLM

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Technically, the Green Party could form a government if we all went out and voted for it today, so to say he 'can' beat Harper is not a lie at all.

That said, boasting about 'beating' someone rather than just focusing on policy does come across as arrogant none the less, though granted Layton is not the only one guilty of that. Harper talking about majority comes across as arrogant too.

The only way Layton could beat Harper is if he had bigger beer kegs set up outside the polling stations. :lol:
 

mentalfloss

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So my boss comes up to me today and asks if I'm going to vote. I said I did last week. She asks: "Green?".. I laughed, "Hell no."..

Her immediate response after that: "Don't tell me you voted NDP."

lol