That's cause he's an alien from Alpha Centaury. Don't piss him off or it will be the old anal probe for you, shyte disturber.
Donald Trump A Birther????
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You saw the "original". The 2007 IS an original because it IS an original legal document. Just like when you get a passport, a replacement birth certificate IS considered the original.
No! Your playing word games here. A replacement is not an original! It may be a legal copy of the original but it's not the original.
Producing a "replacement" gives the conspirators a perfect opportunity to make a forgery.
You just told me a passport requires an "original". They consider an original to be a replacement legal copy. It isn't a photocopy or a notarized copy. It is it and just as valid as the first.
I understand that for your purposes of applying for a passport that a duplicated copy of your original birth certificate was accepted, but we're talking about something completely different, and that's the American Presidency. The Constitution of America says that you have to be a Natural born citizen to be the President.
When it's obvious that he's lying about his Christian faith, when he bows to Muslim kings, when he seals his college records, it's clear that him and his cronies have pulled a fast one.
Yes, he is a plant sent to destroy America. Now please watch this video and you will not care about the birth certificate any more.
YouTube - Can you be Hypnotized? Self Hypnosis Video
YouTube - Can you be Hypnotized? Self Hypnosis Video
Ok, so I not too sure about all this BS argument about what is original or not in whatever province you may be from but...
I was born in England and I have and my BC is quite different form the actual document that supports it, kind of the long form/short form thing. The 'original' is a document filled out by my parents and the doctor and is kept in a records vault at a place in london called government house. I am allowed to get a copy of the document and I am alowed to go there and request to actually see the original. It clearly states on the document I hold "birth certificate" and "not to be used for identification" but it has been accepted for my DL and my passport and to replace my citizenship card.
The whole point being what is and is not accepted may very well be different from what is or is not the original BC.
All that said I'm with cliffy, Obama is a plant from Alpha Centuri sent to prepare the world for a massive group anal probe by their despotic leader who is now among us posing as Donald Trump. Bend over and grab your ankles.....:lol:
I was born in England and I have and my BC is quite different form the actual document that supports it, kind of the long form/short form thing. The 'original' is a document filled out by my parents and the doctor and is kept in a records vault at a place in london called government house. I am allowed to get a copy of the document and I am alowed to go there and request to actually see the original. It clearly states on the document I hold "birth certificate" and "not to be used for identification" but it has been accepted for my DL and my passport and to replace my citizenship card.
The whole point being what is and is not accepted may very well be different from what is or is not the original BC.
All that said I'm with cliffy, Obama is a plant from Alpha Centuri sent to prepare the world for a massive group anal probe by their despotic leader who is now among us posing as Donald Trump. Bend over and grab your ankles.....:lol:
The meaning of the term natural born citizen is ambiguous in the US. It has been established to mean anyone born in the United States, but whether that is the exclusive definition remains uncertain. Precedent suggests that natural born citizen means someone who is a citizen at birth. Obama was a citizen of the United States at birth through his mother. Citizenship can be conferred from parents who are citizens.
In order for Obama to have faked jus soli citizenship, an elaborate decades long conspiracy would have to take place. From fake birth announcements in Honolulu newspapers in 1961 to doctors and bureaucrats at the Hawaii Department of Health risking their careers by forging a birth certificate that apparently any cockeyed shmuck on the internet can deconstruct.
Besides, if Obama was born in Kenya in 1961, that would make him a British subject born in a British colony. Kinda like all those early presidents of the United States.
In order for Obama to have faked jus soli citizenship, an elaborate decades long conspiracy would have to take place. From fake birth announcements in Honolulu newspapers in 1961 to doctors and bureaucrats at the Hawaii Department of Health risking their careers by forging a birth certificate that apparently any cockeyed shmuck on the internet can deconstruct.
Besides, if Obama was born in Kenya in 1961, that would make him a British subject born in a British colony. Kinda like all those early presidents of the United States.
The birther issue is just a symptomn that the Republican have no plan on the table to get the U.S. economy going.
Why? bah ... probably to let the Democrats hang themselves so they get another few terms in power again....
As for Trump....I think he should run...taking shots at him is too easy..... If he goes for the presidency , he won't be doing it for money..
I think he would probably have a better view of where America should go.... he's not a fancy talker , kinda direct . Other than his divorces I don't remember hearing of any scandals ...It would be better to deal with someone that has visible faults , than someone that hides them.
The prejudice against him ...well people don't seem to like success of others I guess.
Why? bah ... probably to let the Democrats hang themselves so they get another few terms in power again....
As for Trump....I think he should run...taking shots at him is too easy..... If he goes for the presidency , he won't be doing it for money..
I think he would probably have a better view of where America should go.... he's not a fancy talker , kinda direct . Other than his divorces I don't remember hearing of any scandals ...It would be better to deal with someone that has visible faults , than someone that hides them.
The prejudice against him ...well people don't seem to like success of others I guess.
My friend, that I worked with for 40 years was born in Detroit to Canadian parents, who happened to be working there at the time. A Few months after his birth, the construction job his old man was working on was over and they moved up north to Kapuskasing where he has been living all this time. I'm a year older than him, so when I applied for CPP, a year before I turned 60 and I found out all the documentation I needed, I told him he better get cracking and get his birth certificate. When he inquired with CPP they told him he needed a certified copy of the long form with the official Michigan seal.
What I'm getting at is that you need the long form to receive CPP.....But not to become President...
I remember joking about that with him when that controversy came out:lol:
Really? You'd better tell that to the crowd that think he is the clone of Akhenaten. GoogleThat's cause he's an alien from Alpha Centaury. Don't piss him off or it will be the old anal probe for you, shyte disturber.
That is what your SIN is for.
Passport and birth certificate are the only two internationally accepted forms of ID and you can't get a passport without the birth cert.
If anything people should be looking for his original passport.
You're right....well...at least half right...one of the first questions on the application is.....were you born in Canada or something to that effect...so because of his dilemma...he called the government office about it and they told him he needed it to become a Canadian Citizen, plus once he got it he had to travel to the closest place that does it, which is Timmins and get sworn in as a Canadian citizen after 59 years of living and working in this country and make it official.
The reason I didn't put all of this in my first post is that I don't type too good and always try to give the reader's digest version:smile:
I had more trouble getting my passport 2 years ago than I had to get CPP and OAS:lol:
You don't have to show 'the original' to get your passport. You need to show AN original, which would be exactly what was produced.
Your claim that you have to show 'the original' would mean that anyone who lost their birth certificate would never be allowed to get a passport.
Natural Born citizen actually means anyone born in the United States or properties belonging
to the United States. For example John McCain was born on a military base in Panama and
no one screaming about that for heaven sake. Hawaii was and has been part of the US since
Obama was born. What really shows is the lack of urgency here. America according to the
Republicans, is going to hell in a hand basket while they disrupt every effort to solve the over
all problems. Instead of being part of solutions for the future they are concentrating on the past
birthplace of their leader. Does this sound like wise council and leadership to you? Donald,
Sara and the other kooks and nit wits in this little group should get a life. The mainstream of the
Republican Party have moved on, only those seeking headlines and media coverage are still
pounding this drum, and its because they have nothing else to offer.
to the United States. For example John McCain was born on a military base in Panama and
no one screaming about that for heaven sake. Hawaii was and has been part of the US since
Obama was born. What really shows is the lack of urgency here. America according to the
Republicans, is going to hell in a hand basket while they disrupt every effort to solve the over
all problems. Instead of being part of solutions for the future they are concentrating on the past
birthplace of their leader. Does this sound like wise council and leadership to you? Donald,
Sara and the other kooks and nit wits in this little group should get a life. The mainstream of the
Republican Party have moved on, only those seeking headlines and media coverage are still
pounding this drum, and its because they have nothing else to offer.
The Donald inherited the wealth and prosperous business investments. On his own he is a true babe in the woods. His many marriages and his inability to show any fidelity tells me this is just a ruse. He has now link of contact with the working man in the US. His only contacts he controls as he allows a few commoners to participate in his closely scripted TV shows.
Biggest welfare recipient in NYC history to run for the presidency? That part of his life will be made a big issue in the campaign for sure.