What's wrong with a coalition government

[Cobalt_Kid]

According to conservative rhetoric a coalition government that doesn't include it is somehow a big threat to the country, so what's the proof?

Let's keep in mind that Harper got together with Layton and Duceppe in the fall of 2005 and formed a defacto coalition to bring the Martin government down. He didn't hestitate to make a deal with the Bloc or the NDP when it suited him, it was Layton that brought forward the non-confidence motion, Harper didn't even have the confidence to pull the trigger on his own.

So what's the problem in having a coalition that will represent more Canadians than the current Parliament that Harper and his "government" have had tied in knots for the last five years. Maybe we'll finally get a national daycare program, a resolution to the First Nations issue and a real plan to deal with the evolving climate situation and so much more that is being ignored as the conservatives protect their narrow interests.

 

[lone wolf]

Probably very little - IF the party leaders can keep their egos in check (note the big IF)

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Probably very little - IF the party leaders can keep their egos in check (note the big IF)

I'm thinking that five years in opposition and multiple leadership change has reduced Liberal arrogance significantly, and with Layton as deputy PM Ingatief would be receiving constant pin pricks to keep the build-up of ego inflating gases to a minimum.

I'm liking the idea of a Liberal/NDP coalition more and more. Contrary to what the conservatives are claiming Duceppe and the Bloc wouldn't be part of a coalition government, they just said they'd support it... like they supported Harper in 2005.

 

[TenPenny]

What's wrong with a coalition? Nothing. There's some history of coalitions in Canadian government.

Harper made the idea of a coalition into some big scary thing, so that he could hold on to power. He has successfully convinced a lot of people that it's somehow wrong (if it doesn't include him, of course).

 

[Cannuck]

I don't like the idea of giving power to the Bloc mostly but also the NDP...the Bloc for obvious reasons but the Dippers have given me no indication that they are ready for power

 

[Mowich]

It was hard enough for a minority government to get things done, I can just see what the country would be like under a coalition that would have to include the Bloc for reasons of majority - the NDP and Libs will never get enough votes. The acrimony and fighting for position and funds would be even more blistering under these three parties, IMHO.

 

[Colpy]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a Liberal/NDP coalition.

Including the Bloc borders on sedition.

It encourages Quebecers to vote BQ, as the BQ then exerts great influence on the national government.....and in case you have forgotten, the entire reason for the BQ's existence is the destruction of Canada.

Imagine this.....A Liberal/NDP coalition with BQ support.........the Parti Quebecois in power in Quebec.........a referendum call.

Very much in the realm of possiblities.

To me, it is the duty of every Canadian to work for the betterment of the nation. Putting the BQ close to the levers of power is obviously the wrong thing to do, in that light.

The Liberals are gaining. Perhaps Count Iggy won't go coalition, but can the same be said for his instant successor? It's not like the Liberals go through a democratic process to elect a leader........

 

[TenPenny]

To me, it is the duty of every Canadian to work for the betterment of the nation.

I agree. Which is why I won't be voted Conservative.

 

[lone wolf]

Do you and Harper see the same psychic? If Quebec separates, it's their own butts they have to sit on.

 

[Colpy]

Do you and Harper see the same psychic? If Quebec separates, it's their own butts they have to sit on.

I have this problem with civil war.........

 

[lone wolf]

I have this problem with civil war.........

Don't start one then

 

[ironsides]

What exactly is a coalition government? It just means that a government will be formed that cannot get anything done, and another election will be in the near future and the drama continues. Not any different that here in the states.

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah ... pretty much the same as the minority government we're headed for - again

 

[Nuggler]

A Liberal-NDP coalition just might do something FOR Canada, instead of stoking the nastiness prevalent in most Con rhetoric.

We MIGHT see some advances in national health care, instead of the ever growing two tier system we are seeing now.

We MIGHT see some assistance for the education of working Canadians instead of kicking the great unwashed to the side of the road.

We MIGHT see some money spent which would have nothing to do with multi billion dollar G20's, Jets, Photo ops for the Herr Harpo, fake lakes, agent provocateurs.

We MIGHT find out exactly how much the single source jets are going to cost. It's now estimated they're going to be about 25 MILLION more.............EACH............nice.

We MIGHT have some politicians who attend question period and ANSWER QUESTIONS instead of dictating.

Just a few mights.

 

[Colpy]

A Liberal-NDP coalition just might do something FOR Canada, instead of stoking the nastiness prevalent in most Con rhetoric.

We MIGHT see some advances in national health care, instead of the ever growing two tier system we are seeing now.

We MIGHT see some assistance for the education of working Canadians instead of kicking the great unwashed to the side of the road.

We MIGHT see some money spent which would have nothing to do with multi billion dollar G20's, Jets, Photo ops for the Herr Harpo, fake lakes, agent provocateurs.

We MIGHT find out exactly how much the single source jets are going to cost. It's now estimated they're going to be about 25 MILLION more.............EACH............nice.

We MIGHT have some politicians who attend question period and ANSWER QUESTIONS instead of dictating.

Just a few mights.

Ahhh....you do remember Liberal gov't....don't you??

And as I keep saying over and over and over....I have no problem whatsoever with a Liberal-NDP coalition if they have a majority.

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

According to conservative rhetoric a coalition government that doesn't include it is somehow a big threat to the country, so what's the proof?

Let's keep in mind that Harper got together with Layton and Duceppe in the fall of 2005 and formed a defacto coalition to bring the Martin government down. He didn't hestitate to make a deal with the Bloc or the NDP when it suited him, it was Layton that brought forward the non-confidence motion, Harper didn't even have the confidence to pull the trigger on his own.

So what's the problem in having a coalition that will represent more Canadians than the current Parliament that Harper and his "government" have had tied in knots for the last five years. Maybe we'll finally get a national daycare program, a resolution to the First Nations issue and a real plan to deal with the evolving climate situation and so much more that is being ignored as the conservatives protect their narrow interests.

If I had it my way we would never have a majority goverment from any party! As far as coalition parties against another partie thats what keeps the rulling partie in check and I am all for it . I imagine that if germany had had such a thing in there constitution maybe Hitler would not of gained power. Its part of our system and i'm glad it's there!

What exactly is a coalition government? It just means that a government will be formed that cannot get anything done, and another election will be in the near future and the drama continues. Not any different that here in the states.

There is no coalition! It's all part of keeping Canadian in fear and not vote for change. There has been and will continue to be partie colabaration on parlementry votes . Every partie has done it at one time or another including the fear mongers PC . So they should be ashame to pretend like there the victim!

 

[PoliticalNick]

Ahhh....you do remember Liberal gov't....don't you??

And as I keep saying over and over and over....I have no problem whatsoever with a Liberal-NDP coalition if they have a majority.

So its ok for Hapo to have a minority and rule but not the libs & NDP?

 

[Colpy]

So its ok for Hapo to have a minority and rule but not the libs & NDP?

Once again, as I've said over and over and over, ANY coalition that includes the Bloc, either as a full-fledged member or as a silent partner, is a violation of the peoples' trust, an abomination, a move bordering on sedition for the politicians that sell themselves to Canada's enemies for power.

And yes, that includes Harper......

But there was NO coalition in 2004....or Harper would have been PM in 2004.........

The fact he considered it was outrageous, and had they succeeded I would never have voted for him, or any party he headed, again.

But Harper is not the danger now, the Count is..........and the Liberals already formed a coalition in 2008.........and may do so again if the Count gets pushed aside........so I intend to forestall that to the best of my ability by voting Conservative, in the hope that Harper gets his majority, and we can lay this BS aside for a few years.

Is that clear enough???

 

[damngrumpy]

Coalition Governments don't last much longer than minority governments in
most cases. I personally think Minority Government works, and I like the idea
of a coalition to oust the Harperites. In BC there is a coalition of conservatives
and Liberals it has been that way for years. Social Credit was one of those old
coalitions as well.
I would hope a coalition would be formed if there is a minority.

 

[Liberalman]

Since we saw what the Conservatives didn't do while in power lets vote a Liberal majority.Minorities are not productive and coalitions slow down the government's work.