What's wrong with a coalition government

[SLM]

Isn't a coalition government just another way of saying a functioning minority government? Minority governments can work too, if all parties involved use the minority status of the "leading" party to their advantage, politically speaking. The way Layton, whose party represents a significant number of Canadian voters by the way, managed to secure some consessions into the last budget. Whether I agree or disagree with those particular policies, I have to admit that it's perfectly reasonable to negotiate that kind of support. As far as a coalition government goes, it really is just a matter of having those negotiations resolved prior to setting policy in the first place.

As for support from the Bloc, I'm of two minds on this one. On the one hand, just the idea of Anti-Federalist Federal party is beyond bizarre but on the other hand, they also represent a large number of Canadians. The irony of course is that the Canadians they represent don't want to be Canadians. But, for the time being, they are still Canadians none the less.

Basically a coalition is democratic, it does ultimately represent the most Canadian votes casts, but in the end it's only as effective as the people involved. I mean Communism works in theory too, but I don't anyone has had too much luck with it in practice.

It would be interesting to see.

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

Once again, as I've said over and over and over, ANY coalition that includes the Bloc, either as a full-fledged member or as a silent partner, is a violation of the peoples' trust, an abomination, a move bordering on sedition for the politicians that sell themselves to Canada's enemies for power.

And yes, that includes Harper......

But there was NO coalition in 2004....or Harper would have been PM in 2004.........

The fact he considered it was outrageous, and had they succeeded I would never have voted for him, or any party he headed, again.

But Harper is not the danger now, the Count is..........and the Liberals already formed a coalition in 2008.........and may do so again if the Count gets pushed aside........so I intend to forestall that to the best of my ability by voting Conservative, in the hope that Harper gets his majority, and we can lay this BS aside for a few years.

Is that clear enough???

I will ignor the biase you express as a Concervative suporter and start by saying that I have no parti loyalty. I vote goverment out ! I vote for PC to get Liberal out when they were screwing up now I will vote PC out for the same reason . On the issue of BQ, they are elected by a large portion of the "Canadian " population and therefore have the legal right to exist. If the politicians I voted for in the last 10 elections had as much loyalty to Canada as the BQ leader has for its voters rights we would finaly have a Canada worth dying for..

Since we saw what the Conservatives didn't do while in power lets vote a Liberal majority.Minorities are not productive and coalitions slow down the government's work.

you sound like a Concervative now! Fact is what your spewing is rederick. The fact is a minoraty goverment will work harder at giving its citizen what they ask for then a goverment who feels secure in his position. Coalitions are the same more items that would never have a chance to be on the table are now up front as bartering chips so the poeple gain.

 

[Liberalman]

I will ignor the biase you express as a Concervative suporter and start by saying that I have no parti loyalty. I vote goverment out ! I vote for PC to get Liberal out when they were screwing up now I will vote PC out for the same reason . On the issue of BQ, they are elected by a large portion of the "Canadian " population and therefore have the legal right to exist. If the politicians I voted for in the last 10 elections had as much loyalty to Canada as the BQ leader has for its voters rights we would finaly have a Canada worth dying for..



you sound like a Concervative now! Fact is what your spewing is rederick. The fact is a minoraty goverment will work harder at giving its citizen what they ask for then a goverment who feels secure in his position. Coalitions are the same more items that would never have a chance to be on the table are now up front as bartering chips so the poeple gain.

Like changing Canada's role from rebuilding to a combative role?

 

[petros]

No matter how ****ty it seems to fools who pay money to join parties a government that works together is a working government. That is democracy at work in it's real form.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a Liberal/NDP coalition.

Including the Bloc borders on sedition.

It encourages Quebecers to vote BQ, as the BQ then exerts great influence on the national government.....and in case you have forgotten, the entire reason for the BQ's existence is the destruction of Canada.

Imagine this.....A Liberal/NDP coalition with BQ support.........the Parti Quebecois in power in Quebec.........a referendum call.

Very much in the realm of possiblities.

To me, it is the duty of every Canadian to work for the betterment of the nation. Putting the BQ close to the levers of power is obviously the wrong thing to do, in that light.

The Liberals are gaining. Perhaps Count Iggy won't go coalition, but can the same be said for his instant successor? It's not like the Liberals go through a democratic process to elect a leader........

The old wound never really goes away, that's true, but having the Bloc support a Liberal/NDP coalition is different from having it's members as part of a government coalition.

Ignatief hasn't had a chance to show his true stuff in the toxic environment that Parliament has become, I doubt the Liberals are going to demand a replacement if he and Layton formed a good working partnership. It would probably do both parties some good.

And having the conservatives out of office would give them some time to realize that Canadians actually were serious about the democratic deficit problem. I think Harper is the one who really needs to be replaced as far as party leadership goes... and the Bloc just giving up and going away would be nice.

Isn't a coalition government just another way of saying a functioning minority government? Minority governments can work too, if all parties involved use the minority status of the "leading" party to their advantage, politically speaking. The way Layton, whose party represents a significant number of Canadian voters by the way, managed to secure some consessions into the last budget. Whether I agree or disagree with those particular policies, I have to admit that it's perfectly reasonable to negotiate that kind of support. As far as a coalition government goes, it really is just a matter of having those negotiations resolved prior to setting policy in the first place.

As for support from the Bloc, I'm of two minds on this one. On the one hand, just the idea of Anti-Federalist Federal party is beyond bizarre but on the other hand, they also represent a large number of Canadians. The irony of course is that the Canadians they represent don't want to be Canadians. But, for the time being, they are still Canadians none the less.

Basically a coalition is democratic, it does ultimately represent the most Canadian votes casts, but in the end it's only as effective as the people involved. I mean Communism works in theory too, but I don't anyone has had too much luck with it in practice.

It would be interesting to see.

It's a more formalized version of what we've had under Harper and Martin, hopefully with a government that's more concerned with working within Parliament as opposed to working around it which Harper and the conservatives have been doing as much as possible in the last five years. Let that kind of behaviour carry on too far and you're not left with much of a democratic process.

The Bloc warps the function of Parliament just by existing, I would be so much easier to make Canada work if it didn't... but it's roots are part of our history I guess.

I think the best way to make the Bloc and the separatist movement go away is to build the best country possible.

 

[Nuggler]

Ahhh....you do remember Liberal gov't....don't you??

And as I keep saying over and over and over....I have no problem whatsoever with a Liberal-NDP coalition if they have a majority.

What makes you think anyone gives a sh it about you having a problem?

Buy larger clothes so you and your ego can grow into them.