Trudeau makes another brilliant statement.

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
A knob would be someone who tries to politely asks the guy killing his family to stop and expects it will work.

Yes, a knob would do that. Of course, I don't think the Canadian government is accusing immigrants of that so the rant is still silly.

You want a clear and easily understood message you make it clear and concise, don't pussyfoot around and try to be nice. There are times and situations when all politcal correctness should be tossed out the window.

...and saying it is not acceptable or that it is illegal in Canada serves that purpose without making anybody look like a knob.
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
6,770
137
63
Raping children is barbaric. Those who would think that raping a child is acceptable deserve to be offended and dare I say called barbaric. The pamphlet doesn't say HEY YOU F UCKING R ETARD MUSLIMS HONOUR KILLINGS ARE BARBARIC. It says that the act of killing or mutilation is considered barabaric in Canadian society these practices are barbaric or something like that.

Come on Unf, your retort was kind of a stretch. :lol:.

Growth comes through stretching, and even though it's almost too high to reach, it only takes effort and before you know it, it's easy as pie. ;-)

I don't know why but for some reason, a number of you seem to be saying that calling something absolutely unacceptable means perfectly acceptable. In fact it means exactly the opposite. In Canada all of that is unacceptable.

What is most surprising is that of all the things you guys should be concerned about, this is first and foremost on the agenda. Do you really care that little about our country?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

The End of the Dog is Coming!
Mar 19, 2006
12,431
1,385
113
60
Alberta
Growth comes through stretching, and even though it's almost too high to reach, it only takes effort and before you know it, it's easy as pie. ;-)

I don't know why but for some reason, a number of you seem to be saying that calling something absolutely unacceptable means perfectly acceptable. In fact it means exactly the opposite. In Canada all of that is unacceptable.

What is most surprising is that of all the things you guys should be concerned about, this is first and foremost on the agenda. Do you really care that little about our country?

I'm done stretching, if anything I'm shrinking, or widening? :wink: Gravity sucks.

I think the foundation of the argument is how strong the language is. If the government had drafted the same document and used the word unacceptable you would not have heard a complaint from me. However, I fail to see the issue with the word barbaric. These actions are barbaric, they are also unacceptable, the fact that we would worry about the sensitivities of anyone who would consider these types of rituals acceptable or non barbaric seems a tad hypersensitive or dare I say retarded.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
I'm done stretching, if anything I'm shrinking, or widening? :wink: Gravity sucks.

I think the foundation of the argument is how strong the language is.

...and that is where you and Trudeau's critics have erred. I have no problem with the strongest possible language. I take issue with the needless use of inflammatory language. It's not my fault (nor the fault of Trudeau) if some people can not understand the difference between the two.
 

TenPenny

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 9, 2004
17,467
139
63
Location, Location
...and that is where you and Trudeau's critics have erred. I have no problem with the strongest possible language. I take issue with the needless use of inflammatory language. It's not my fault (nor the fault of Trudeau) if some people can not understand the difference between the two.

And that's where you and Trudeau have erred. Using the term 'barbaric' simply shows that Canadian society not only diapproves, but disapproves most strongly. It's not my fault if some people cannot understand the reason for emphasizing how strongly we disagree with this practice.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

The End of the Dog is Coming!
Mar 19, 2006
12,431
1,385
113
60
Alberta
...and that is where you and Trudeau's critics have erred. I have no problem with the strongest possible language. I take issue with the needless use of inflammatory language. It's not my fault (nor the fault of Trudeau) if some people can not understand the difference between the two.

Well that's a nice deflection, but I'm not the one who tripped all over himself to find fault with the wording. Mr. Trudeau did, and once cornered on it he flip flopped, probably because the upper echelon in the Liberal Party told him too.

Until he opened his mouth this was really a non issue. Even he has admitted he was wrong, strangely some here can't seem to grasp that.

"Ok, final word: all violence against women is barbaric. If my concerns about language led some to think otherwise, then I gladly apologize," Trudeau tweeted.
 
Last edited:

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
6,770
137
63
I'm done stretching, if anything I'm shrinking, or widening? :wink: Gravity sucks.

I think the foundation of the argument is how strong the language is. If the government had drafted the same document and used the word unacceptable you would not have heard a complaint from me. However, I fail to see the issue with the word barbaric. These actions are barbaric, they are also unacceptable, the fact that we would worry about the sensitivities of anyone who would consider these types of rituals acceptable or non barbaric seems a tad hypersensitive or dare I say retarded.

I think the foundation of the argument is how the neocons work to distract from all their lies and scandals that are surfacing before the election.

Today another Neocon insider is getting investigated for sneaky under the table dealings leading to the PMO.
Never mind the economic hit we're facing with the tragedy in Japan, the situation in Libya and having to provide a contingent for a no fly zone there. All the aid we should be gathering for both countries, you guys are fretting about barbaric and absolutely unacceptable.

I mean what gives man?

Look, Harper was elected to punish the Liberals. It's never been about something else. That's why it's always been a minority government. Everyone knows this guy would go nuts if he didn't need the support of another party in the House to get legislation passed.

Polls have become little more than partisan blurbs to keep the fear high should the public start to talking amongst themselves about elections. There is only one poll that counts and this bluff has been used once to often to remain credible.

The neocons have spent us into the poor house and it's time for some fiscal management to first get rid of the deficit, then return to paying down the debt which will make each one of us a little more wealthy. Instead of making slightly larger profit margins for corporate hogs that managed to drive the whole developed world into recession.

The Liberals have the track record of cleaning up the mess left by Mulroney and while the US under Bush crumbled managed to hold our ground while their economy nearly crashed. This slowly sinking crap Harper's conservatives have us in won't get any better because Flaherty doesn't know any better. He did it to Ontario when they were booted out leaving nearly 6 billion in deficit.

We can only hold on for so long before the waterline exceeds the hairline.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

The End of the Dog is Coming!
Mar 19, 2006
12,431
1,385
113
60
Alberta
I think the foundation of the argument is how the neocons work to distract from all their lies and scandals that are surfacing before the election.

Nope. I've been very critical of this government. While were on the language issue. Neocons? Really? At best the Canadian Conservatives mirror the US Democrats.

Today another Neocon insider is getting investigated for sneaky under the table dealings leading to the PMO.
Never mind the economic hit we're facing with the tragedy in Japan, the situation in Libya and having to provide a contingent for a no fly zone there. All the aid we should be gathering for both countries, you guys are fretting about barbaric and absolutely unacceptable.

Governments are often havens for unscrupulous behavior.

I mean what gives man?

See comment above.

Look, Harper was elected to punish the Liberals. It's never been about something else. That's why it's always been a minority government. Everyone knows this guy would go nuts if he didn't need the support of another party in the House to get legislation passed.

No Harper was elected because it was time for a change. The minority government is the result a horse sh_t smear campaign mounted by Liberals. He has a secret agenda! He'll put troops on the Streets! Don't trust him, he drinks baby blood! We have a minority because of split votes and fear-mongering.

Polls have become little more than partisan blurbs to keep the fear high should the public start to talking amongst themselves about elections. There is only one poll that counts and this bluff has been used once to often to remain credible.

We don't need an election. As much as you want it Canada does not need it, in fact the NDP and the Liberals don't need an election either because the only thing that could come from an election is more of the same at a tremendous cost or a Conservative majority.

The neocons have spent us into the poor house and it's time for some fiscal management to first get rid of the deficit, then return to paying down the debt which will make each one of us a little more wealthy. Instead of making slightly larger profit margins for corporate hogs that managed to drive the whole developed world into recession.

Give me a break. The government injected cash where it was desperately needed. GM and Chrysler were going down for the count. The tax break I got on renovations I used and injected it back into the economy as did a lot of Canadians, my biggest bitch would be with the HST that the Feds and Province stuffed down our throats. If you don't think that has hurt growth then you are living in a world of denial.

The Liberals have the track record of cleaning up the mess left by Mulroney and while the US under Bush crumbled managed to hold our ground while their economy nearly crashed. This slowly sinking crap Harper's conservatives have us in won't get any better because Flaherty doesn't know any better. He did it to Ontario when they were booted out leaving nearly 6 billion in deficit.

The Liberals have a track record of playing shell games with other peoples money. How did Paul Martin balance the budget? Oh yeah, he used a Tory GST, he cut transfers to the province, he got rid of the baby bonus, he gutted the Canadian Military, he raised taxes and while doing this they stuffed money into the pockets of their Liberal friends in Quebec. The gaffs on the part of the Liberals were far worse than the blips you guys are stamping your feet over.

I've said this again and again and again. Sort out your party, get a leader who doesn't look as though he was parachuted in and get some vision for gosh sake. The people of Canada have no interest in putting that buffoon in power and until the Liberal Party gets its act together it will be in opposition.

We can only hold on for so long before the waterline exceeds the hairline.

Oh stop being a delicate flower drama queen. :)
 

DaSleeper

Trolling Hypocrites
May 27, 2007
33,676
1,666
113
Northern Ontario,
Hey...I'm going for coffee this afternoon with a guy who is an NDP'er through and through and he's also a great guy...
It's only in forums that politics get weird
 

CUBert

Time Out
Aug 15, 2010
1,259
2
38
Canada
Absolutely fully agree.
Why are we immigrating these type of people into our country in the first place?
Are we scrapeing the bottom of the barrel ??

I think we should add the following statement to the guide;
"These type of acts are carried out by Barbarians and Barbarians are not allowed into Canada"

We should use social pressure to have these people stop this kind of nonsence, since they come here and don't respect our laws, maybe they will bow to social pressure.

Racist turd, the southern states of Amerikkka will love you.
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
6,770
137
63
Nope. I've been very critical of this government.

Oh pull the other one it's got bells on! :smile: And just to even things up you know that I have been very critical of those damn beloved Liberal scamps! There just so cute all dressed up in that little red suit. heh heh

While were on the language issue. Neocons? Really? At best the Canadian Conservatives mirror the US Democrats.

Tender ears Cap'n? You and DaS want to do the Teabag thing, I'm all don't ask don't tell man.

Governments are often havens for unscrupulous behavior.

Not that that is any excuse.

See comment above.

What, you mean my comment above this one? Markatolah, you don't make no kinda sense boy. Just put down the Pringles and walk away.

No Harper was elected because it was time for a change. The minority government is the result a horse sh_t smear campaign mounted by Liberals. He has a secret agenda! He'll put troops on the Streets! Don't trust him, he drinks baby blood! We have a minority because of split votes and fear-mongering.

Man you are all over the map here. Obama is the change President, Harper was the Fiberal Prime Minister. Bush was the corporate shill and Clinton was the mucky toucher. So take care to get it right because there is going to be a quiz later on this stuff.

We don't need an election. As much as you want it Canada does not need it, in fact the NDP and the Liberals don't need an election either because the only thing that could come from an election is more of the same at a tremendous cost or a Conservative majority.

Let the voters decide what's best for the country.

Give me a break. The government injected cash where it was desperately needed. GM and Chrysler were going down for the count. The tax break I got on renovations I used and injected it back into the economy as did a lot of Canadians, my biggest bitch would be with the HST that the Feds and Province stuffed down our throats. If you don't think that has hurt growth then you are living in a world of denial.

The government blew the surplus we had, spent foolishly and cut corporate taxes time and time again. Here comes another budget full of tax cuts for the banks. The poor dears, have you seen the dismal profit margins this quarter?
Not even meeting analysis expectations. Sure it's 6 billion after everything is paid for but that isn't alot when you have made even more in years gone by. But those small business, you know the one's who actually employ most of the people in this country, they get nothing, except that HST paper work to manage. Go drive down the street and see how many banks have closed their doors and how many small business have closed theirs. That's the story of Harper and his cash injection.

The Liberals have a track record of playing shell games with other peoples money. How did Paul Martin balance the budget? Oh yeah, he used a Tory GST, he cut transfers to the province, he got rid of the baby bonus, he gutted the Canadian Military, he raised taxes and while doing this they stuffed money into the pockets of their Liberal friends in Quebec. The gaffs on the part of the Liberals were far worse than the blips you guys are stamping your feet over.

A former top advisor to the Prime Minister lobbied officials in Indian Affairs Minister John Duncan’s office on behalf of a project to provide clean drinking water on aboriginal reserves, the Toronto Star has learned.
Former PMO official lobbied minister?s office - thestar.com

Former MP Rahim Jaffer, a self-described peddler of government grants, credits and loans, was in fine form, chatting up prospective clients. Early the next morning, Gillani would greet the day with a colourful email to the night’s guests: “Mr. Jaffer has opened up the Prime Minister’s office to us,” he boasted, unaware at the time of how Jaffer’s night had ended. Former MP Rahim Jaffer connected to alleged conman - thestar.com

Sorry who did what now?
Maybe they should have just had people sign an agreement and then change what was in the agreement. I think it's called A Bev Oda, yes?

Yes well the neocons are certainly squeaky clean. "not"

I've said this again and again and again. Sort out your party, get a leader who doesn't look as though he was parachuted in and get some vision for gosh sake. The people of Canada have no interest in putting that buffoon in power and until the Liberal Party gets its act together it will be in opposition.

The Liberal party is just that a party, not a single person making all the calls and holding power close to the chest. Ministers work rather than take dictation from the PMO. That's what they are elected to do though you would never know it from this government. And as for the military, we're trying to extricate ourselves from a quagmire that is Afghanistan and already Harper wants to rush into Libya.

Oh stop being a delicate flower drama queen. :)

I thought you liked my sensitive side bitchcakes?!? :p