People in charge of our legal system are crazy!

[darkbeaver]

Check their facebook for posts from Aspen rather than the Hamptons

You will make a good tax collector.

 

[petros]

I'll even break thumbs.

 

[darkbeaver]

I'll even break thumbs.

A journeyman eh. My arthritis robs me of sufficient hand strength these days so I have to employ a short length O pipe to bend back the digit to snap&scream position. The apprentice handles the heavy stuff I'm really just there for the paper work and the weighing. She drives the cart as well.

 

[JLM]

So you'd have no issues in a significant tax hike to properly treat those who need it and staff the extra facilities to adequately deal with dangerous people with mental health issues?

I'm not too sure I'd go as far as to say that. That would be assuming that all the problems in our legal system is the result of lack of money which I'm pretty sure is not the case.

 

[petros]

I'm not too sure I'd go as far as to say that. That would be assuming that all the problems in our legal system is the result of lack of money which I'm pretty sure is not the case.

So dumping thousands upon thousands of mentally ill which a sizeable portion were dangerous onto the streets which in turn cranked up the crime rate was a good idea in the mid 80's?

If those with mental health issues were properly treated, housed and not self-medicating on street drugs would crime go up or down?

How about taxes? Would they rise or fall too?

 

[JLM]

So dumping thousands upon thousands of mentally ill which a sizeable portion were dangerous onto the streets which in turn cranked up the crime rate was a good idea in the mid 80's?

If those with mental health issues were properly treated, housed and not self-medicating on street drugs would crime go up or down?

How about taxes? Would they rise or fall too?

I'm not too sure that it's AN EITHER OR SITUATION. There is just no easy cut and dried solution. Should ALL physically ill people be kept in hospitals?

 

[Cliffy]

I'm not too sure that it's AN EITHER OR SITUATION. There is just no easy cut and dried solution. Should ALL physically ill people be kept in hospitals?

It was cut and dry when the Socreds dumped the mentally ill out on the street and shut down the facilities to save a buck. The majority of drug addicts became druggies on pharmaceuticals prescribed to them. Out on the street they became easy prey to the pushers. That is precisely when crime rates soared and now people want to replace mental health facilities with prisons, more cops, lawyers and judges. It is a vicious circle that the mentally ill are caught in. Money that should go toward their care has been diverted to corporate welfare instead to pay off political patronage. Do you think we are getting our monies worth?

 

[darkbeaver]

The profoundly mentally ill rule the country. The legal system just reflects that. I think.

 

[JLM]

It was cut and dry when the Socreds dumped the mentally ill out on the street and shut down the facilities to save a buck. The majority of drug addicts became druggies on pharmaceuticals prescribed to them. Out on the street they became easy prey to the pushers. That is precisely when crime rates soared and now people want to replace mental health facilities with prisons, more cops, lawyers and judges. It is a vicious circle that the mentally ill are caught in. Money that should go toward their care has been diverted to corporate welfare instead to pay off political patronage. Do you think we are getting our monies worth?

Good point, Cliff. But now we have even a bigger problem and that is to determine which people in the justice system are mentally ill and which aren't. :smile:

 

[Cliffy]

Good point, Cliff. But now we have even a bigger problem and that is to determine which people in the justice system are mentally ill and which aren't. :smile:

I'm with the Beav. Only a lunatic would want to be a politician, layer or judge. That does make straightening out this mess daunting, to say the least.