12lbs Laker, 13lbs Whitie, and a whopping 2lbs Perch. I don't scale Ling or Cisco. But I've pulled up some pretty hefty Ling this year.
More Needless Multiculturalism Problems From Immigrants
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Yep. But we don't catch many. So no one keeps score, lol. They're pretty tasty if you boil them in butter and garlic in the microwave. Almost like lobster.
English battered....MMMMMM. They are easy to catch here if you are too aggressive jigging for pickerel.
I'm a little confused by your post. What does either of the links you posted have to do with the topic?
BTW the first Canadians appear to have come from Asia. Africa is where they came from before that.
Come on, Colpy. Do we really need more bigoted ignoramuses in Canada? Try reading through the Bible and you will find an equal number of references to violence. Does that mean all modern Christians support terrorist activities?
Could you provide the readers with a few examples of terrorists activities in Canada involving Tamil Tigers?
I also wonder what the urbanization of the greater Vancouver area has to do with the thread.
So let me get this straight - increased real estate values are entirely due to Chinese immigration. Given the fact that my house is now worth almost three times what I paid for it in 1995 I guess I should send the Chinese embassy a thank you letter.
[/QUOTE=Trotz;1389613]I believe we need a social immigration system; taking in immigrations who share our core values. Islamicists shouldn't be allowed in, period. Likewise, the Catholic Church (a reflection of European society) had never looked kindly on usury and speculation; two traits which are synonymous to the "entrepreneurial" (more like speculating and stealing) Chinese.[/QUOTE]
Great idea. Can you tell us where these immigrants who share our core values are going to come from? And can you tell us what these core values are? I would like to see how many of them I have.
As for the Catholic Church and its attitude toward moneylending, you appear to be completely unaware of how badly that held back the development of trade and commerce in the areas of Europe that remained Roman Catholic after the Reformation. It was one of the main reasons why nations like the Netherlands and England surged ahead of Catholic Europe after the seventeenth century.
Also why is the Chinese entrepreneurial spirit considered stealing when the same activities by the English, Americans, and others is considered legitimate business?
True, this sort of speculation is not limited to the Chinese but in Vancouver it's definately common among them. A lot of them made their fortune through connections in mainland China; i.e. through the Communist Party, and by paying their employees 10 cents a hour, than they bring their millions here and dump it into our real estate market - usually never moving into the homes.
I think a lot of wealthly people from disadvantaged countries have made their fortunes from taking advantage of the less fortunate and ignorant people in their country.
It's hard to imagine how extremely wealthly people from China or India could get so wealthly in such poor countries.
I don't think we are a "multicultural society", I think the more appropriate description is "blended society". There is no adaptation or assimilation from strictly one side or another. Canada changes the immigrants and the immigrants change Canada.
I doubt many Canadians have left Markham due to immigration. Up until the mid-sixties, it was a farm town in a largely agricultural setting. Urban sprawl brought many newcomers
I've been in the area since the late 90's Lone. I can assure you, I've watched it change hands. I watched strip mall after strip mall, covered in everything but English signage.
I'm not necessarily complaining. I actually love real Asian cuisine. But when you have zero English signage, you really aren't inviting anyone but your fellow ethic group, and the bravehearted gastronomically adventurer like myself.
Am I misunderstanding or is that contradictory? If the immigrants (the Asian's in this example) change the community they come into doesn't that mean that the inhabitants (the population that existed prior to the immigration) have therefore changed since they are the community?
I'm basing my perceptions on my own experience of interacting with individuals who have immigrated (who often identify solely with the culture they immigrated from) versus the offspring of immigrants (who tend to indentify themselves more as Canadian) and my own perspective of how much a place (city, town, province) has changed over time, usually due to immigrant influences.
My biggest problem is with the label of multiculturalism itself. It does not exist. Multiculturalism implies that we have many different cultures co-existing, where we don't really. I think what we have is a constantly changing and evolving culture. At least that's my perspective.
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Even in the Czech Republic, the Czechs are beginning to complain about foreign Chinese businessmen who come in and play speculation on their real estate market. I guess it has been happening for so long in Canada that we can't remember $50,000 homes back in the early 1980s.
So let me get this straight - increased real estate values are entirely due to Chinese immigration. Given the fact that my house is now worth almost three times what I paid for it in 1995 I guess I should send the Chinese embassy a thank you letter.
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Don't be too sure about that. You must pay taxes on that inflated value. I think the inflated real estate prices are pushed by governments looking to raise taxes without pissing off home owners.
[/QUOTE=Trotz;1389613]I believe we need a social immigration system; taking in immigrations who share our core values. Islamicists shouldn't be allowed in, period. Likewise, the Catholic Church (a reflection of European society) had never looked kindly on usury and speculation; two traits which are synonymous to the "entrepreneurial" (more like speculating and stealing) Chinese.[/QUOTE]
Great idea. Can you tell us where these immigrants who share our core values are going to come from? And can you tell us what these core values are? I would like to see how many of them I have.
As for the Catholic Church and its attitude toward moneylending, you appear to be completely unaware of how badly that held back the development of trade and commerce in the areas of Europe that remained Roman Catholic after the Reformation. It was one of the main reasons why nations like the Netherlands and England surged ahead of Catholic Europe after the seventeenth century.
Also why is the Chinese entrepreneurial spirit considered stealing when the same activities by the English, Americans, and others is considered legitimate business?
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I don't share any core values with the pedophile cult. The catholic church has always been more into stealing money from the uneducated poor and laundering cash for criminals. Any church that has all that gold stashed away and used for decoration is not doing all it can to help the poor.
Even in the Czech Republic, the Czechs are beginning to complain about foreign Chinese businessmen who come in and play speculation on their real estate market. I guess it has been happening for so long in Canada that we can't remember $50,000 homes back in the early 1980s.
So let me get this straight - increased real estate values are entirely due to Chinese immigration. Given the fact that my house is now worth almost three times what I paid for it in 1995 I guess I should send the Chinese embassy a thank you letter.
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Don't be too sure about that. You must pay taxes on that inflated value. I think the inflated real estate prices are pushed by governments looking to raise taxes without pissing off home owners.
[/QUOTE=Trotz;1389613]I believe we need a social immigration system; taking in immigrations who share our core values. Islamicists shouldn't be allowed in, period. Likewise, the Catholic Church (a reflection of European society) had never looked kindly on usury and speculation; two traits which are synonymous to the "entrepreneurial" (more like speculating and stealing) Chinese.[/QUOTE]
Great idea. Can you tell us where these immigrants who share our core values are going to come from? And can you tell us what these core values are? I would like to see how many of them I have.
As for the Catholic Church and its attitude toward moneylending, you appear to be completely unaware of how badly that held back the development of trade and commerce in the areas of Europe that remained Roman Catholic after the Reformation. It was one of the main reasons why nations like the Netherlands and England surged ahead of Catholic Europe after the seventeenth century.
Also why is the Chinese entrepreneurial spirit considered stealing when the same activities by the English, Americans, and others is considered legitimate business?
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I don't share any core values with the pedophile cult. The catholic church has always been more into stealing money from the uneducated poor and laundering cash for criminals. Any church that has all that gold stashed away and used for decoration is not doing all it can to help the poor.
Oil and water is a bit harsh don't you think? Blended may not be a perfect description, but I do believe it's a hell of a lot more accurate than multi-cultural.
I didn't take your commentary as in positive change, as in growing together. Displacement and taking over an area. Making it language inaccessible to the host nation. Isn't what I classify as positive growth or change.
I gotchya now.
I don't think our culture is changing. Unless slowly becoming a doormat is what you are referring to.
Coming to a new land, and setting up in a specific area, and catering almost exclusively to your "culture". Isn't going to change the over all culture, it's just going to displace it.
Unless you mean that the original culture will eventually tire of that and become more rigid about immigration.
No real biggie.... Farms sprouted houses for the affluent middle class getting out of Toronto. In the mid sixties, they were mostly white. Markham is still sprouting houses. Hell, I can remember apple orchards and horse farms all along Highway 7
Yep, you be right. Now it's reached Major Mac.
On one side it's congested and over developed. On the other, open fields.
Going through Markham Village in the am is a blood sport lol.