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Scientists find global warming fingerprints in extreme rainstorms, floods


WASHINGTON—Extreme rainstorms and snowfalls have grown substantially stronger, two studies suggest, with scientists for the first time finding the telltale fingerprints of man-made global warming on downpours that often cause deadly flooding.
Two studies in Wednesday's issue of the journal Nature link heavy rains to increases in greenhouse gases more than ever before.
One group of researchers looked at the strongest rain and snow events of each year from 1951 to 1999 in the Northern Hemisphere and found that the more recent storms were 7 per cent wetter. That may not sound like much, but it adds up to be a substantial increase, said the report from a team of researchers from Canada and Scotland.
The study did not single out specific storms but examined worst-of-each-year events all over the Northern Hemisphere. While the study ended in 1999, the close of the decade when scientists say climate change kicked into a higher gear, the events examined were similar to more recent disasters: deluges that triggered last year's deadly floods in Pakistan and in Nashville, Tennessee, and this winter's paralyzing blizzards in parts of the United States.
The change in severity was most apparent in North America, but that could be because that is where the most rain gauges are, scientists said.
Both studies should weaken the argument that climate change is a "victimless crime," said Myles Allen of the University of Oxford. He co-authored the second study, which connected flooding and climate change in Britain. "Extreme weather is what actually hurts people."
Jonathan Overpeck, a University of Arizona climate scientist, who did not take part in either study, praised them as sensible and "particularly relevant given the array of extreme weather that we've seen this winter and stretching back over the last few years."
Not all the extreme rain and snow events the scientists studied cause flooding. But since 1950, flooding has killed more than 2.3 million people, according to the World Health Organization's disaster database.
The British study focused on flooding in England and Wales in autumn of 2000. The disaster cost more than $1.7 billion in insured damages and was the wettest autumn for the region in more than 230 years of record-keeping.
Researchers found that global warming more than doubled the likelihood of that flood occurring. Similar studies are now under way to examine whether last year's deadly Russian heat wave and Pakistan floods — which were part of the same weather event — can be scientifically attributed to global warming.
For years scientists, relying on basic physics and climate knowledge, have said global warming would likely cause extremes in temperatures and rainfall. But this is the first time researchers have been able to point to a demonstrable cause-and-effect by using the rigorous and scientifically accepted method of looking for the "fingerprints" of human-caused climate change.
The scientists took all the information that shows an increase in extreme rain and snow events from the 1950s through the 1990s and ran dozens of computer models numerous times. They put in the effects of greenhouse gases — which come from the burning of fossil fuels — and then ran numerous models without those factors. Only when the greenhouse gases are factored in do the models show a similar increase to what actually happened. All other natural effects alone don't produce the jump in extreme rainfall. Essentially, the computer runs show climate change is the only way to explain what's happening.
In fact, the computer models underestimated the increase in extreme rain and snow. That is puzzling and could be even more troubling for our future, said Michael Oppenheimer of Princeton University, who was not part of the study.
Similar fingerprinting studies have found human-caused greenhouse gas emissions triggered changes in more than a dozen other ecological ways: temperatures on land, the ocean's surface, heat content in the depths of the oceans, temperature extremes, sea level pressure, humidity at ground level and higher in the air, general rainfall amounts, the extent of Arctic sea ice, snowpack levels and timing of runoff in the western United States, Atlantic Ocean salinity, wildfire damage, and the height of the lower atmosphere.
All those signs say global warming is here, said Xuebin Zhang, a research scientist for the Canadian government and co-author of the Northern Hemisphere study. "It is affecting us in multiple directions."
Most of the 10 outside climate experts who reviewed the papers for The Associated Press called the research sound and strong.
However, climate scientist Jerry North of Texas A&M University, while praising the work, said he worried that the studies were making too firm a connection based on weather data that could be poor in some locations. But Francis Zwiers of the University of Victoria, a lead author of the study with Zhang, said the data was from National Weather Service gauges and is reliable.
"Put the two papers together and we start to see an emerging pattern," said Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria, who wasn't part of either study. "We should continue to expect increased flooding associated with increased extreme precipitation because of increasing atmospheric greenhouse gas. And we have no one to blame but ourselves."
The Associated Press
 

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Former Skeptic, Weather Channels Ostro Reviews Ths Wild Winter

YouTube - Stu Ostro, Skeptic no more

That was from last year....now this year.

Former climate skeptic Stu Ostro is a senior meteorologist at the Weather Channel. In the video above from a year ago, he explains his journey from legitimate skepticism to acknowledging what the science is telling us.
Recently, he dissected the lessons of this winter’s wild weather in a blog posting. Here are some highlights:

Ridges Rule
During winter in North America, especially the central and eastern part, the extent to which there are strong “blocking” ridges of high pressure aloft in high latitudes is crucially important for the details of temperatures and storminess.
Both last winter, when there was a strong El Nino present (above-average sea surface temperatures in the central-eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean), and this season, with a strong La Nina (the opposite, i.e. below average SSTs), potent and persistent ridges of high pressure aloft were an important player.

As I said in the USA Today interview, I wish the NAO were as much of a household term as El Nino and La Nina have become! Many of those strong blocking ridges were directly associated with aconsistently and strongly “negative” phase of phenomena known as the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) and AO (Arctic Oscillation; nowadays the term “Northern Annular Mode”, or NAM, is increasingly being used instead of the NAO/AO).

Whatever the acronym, and there are others such as the PNA (Pacific – North American pattern), what’s important is what they represent: the configuration of high pressure ridges and low pressure troughs, of dips and bulges in the jet stream.

A couple of those ridges aloft — one over Greenland in December, and another over Alaska in January — set records for how strong they were for the combo of the time of year and so far north.

The graphics below vividly illustrate the predominant pattern during the period when most of this season’s wildness occurred, starting in late November in Europe and continuing into early Februaryin the United States.
The top one shows the departure from average pressures aloft (technically, “500 millibar heights”). You don’t need to be a meteorologist to be able to see that there’s a dramatic signal!

This represents averages across the span of a couple of months — the pressure pattern wasn’t like that every day — but a configuration of strong high-latitude ridges and feisty troughs of low pressure to the south occurred repeatedly.
The bottom graphic depicts preliminary data for departure from average surface temperatures. While London and Paris and Atlanta were shivering from cold and digging out from snow, and that got a lot of attention due to them being big population and media centers, a much different picture is painted across Greenland and the northeast half of Canada.
(Different map projections, which don’t stretch regions in high latitudes, are available here; even on them, the anomalies from Greenland across northeast Canada, and also extending to near Alaska, stick out like a sore thumb.)





Those ridges, i.e. the weather pattern at times this season, may have been influenced by the record low Arctic sea ice extent in December and January, and we need to focus on further understanding the nature of the processes involved.
Prior to this winter, I was intrigued about the possibility, but a little, uh, skeptical about the degree (no pun intended) of influence that had occurred so far. Now I am convinced that the loss of sea ice is having a significant effect upon weather not only locally but also downstream.

This graph, which shows how much more slowly Hudson Bay froze over this season (the bottom, solid line) than in other years, is particularly stunning. When I first saw it, I did a double-take.



The amount and details of the influence vary, as the Earth-atmosphere system is very complex and there is always natural variability also at play at all time scales, but it’s illogical to think that the extra heat being released directly into the atmosphere overhead is not having any effect.

• Beware of Snowfall Over-Achievement

On a number of occasions, storms this winter “overachieved,” producing peak snowfall amounts in given locations greater than what was generally expected by computer models and human forecasters. Perhaps how much that occurred this winter is related to an increased tendency for precipitation extremes.

Whether or not that’s the case, what happened over and over again reinforces how important small-scale details are within the larger-scale snow system — things such as “mesoscale banding” which sets up and persists over the same locations — and the need to consider the potential for such outcomes when communicating forecast information, and then be closely monitoring the evolution of the snowfall rates and pattern when the storms get underway. The latest example was the narrow swath of extreme snowfall in northeast Oklahoma and northwest Arkansas on February 8-9.

Regardless of how/if changes in climate played a role this winter, our vulnerability to extreme weather has been demonstrated yet again.

Just as the 2004 and 2005 hurricane seasons exposed that vulnerability, especially along the Gulf Coast and in Florida (and other years have also done that in this country and elsewhere), this season has dramatically illustrated, in both the U.S. and Europe, how vulnerable we are to severe winter conditions, and raised issues of preparedness.

Examples include a massive impact upon air/road travel; particular traffic fiascos in Chicago, Washington, D.C., Cleveland, Buffalo, and Atlanta; fatalities from vehicular accidents and shoveling heavy, wet snow; many roof collapses in the Northeast, and of the Metrodome; widespread power outages; extended school closings; problems leading up to the Super Bowl; and perceived lack of snow-removal response, and subsequent political heat for mayors in New York City, Chicago, and Atlanta.

It’s not just tropical cyclones, tornadoes, floods, and heat that greatly affect us. Whether those, or blizzards and ice storms, or sunshine and tranquility, every aspect of weather is important to our lives.
 

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Food prices at 'dangerous' levels: World Bank

The World Bank said Tuesday food prices have hit "dangerous levels" that could contribute to political instability, push millions of people into poverty and raise the cost of groceries.



The bank's president, Robert Zoellick, said in Washington rising prices have hit people hardest in the developing world because they spend as much as half their income on food.
The bank, in a report released Tuesday, said that global food prices have jumped 29 per cent in the past year, and are just three per cent below the all-time peak hit in 2008.

On Feb. 3, the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization said prices are already there.
Its Food Price Index rose in January by 3.4 per cent from December to 231 points. The rise was the seventh straight monthly increase.





The index measures monthly price changes for a basket of foods including cereals, oilseeds, dairy, meat and sugar.High prices sparked rioting in 61 countries in 2007 and 2008. Back then, the FAO index was at 200 points for all of 2008.
Wheat prices have traded at record levels recently as commodity traders worry about the quality and quantity of the global wheat supply, given continuing drought in China, and after devastating floods damaged Australia's crop. Last year, yields were affected by drought in Russia and Ukraine and by flooding in Canada.

Wheat futures for May delivery retreated by 3.8 per cent Tuesday, to $8.70 a bushel on the Chicago Board of Trade. A day earlier, the price touched $9.15 a bushel, its highest since Aug. 22, 2008.

The World Bank, in its report Tuesday, estimated higher prices for corn, wheat and oil have pushed 44 million people into extreme poverty since last June.

Zoellick said he expects food prices to continue to rise, and that export bans and weather disruptions are partly to blame.
Food inflation is among the factors blamed for the turmoil in Egypt and Yemen and the overthrow of Tunisian president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.




 

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It is only a matter of time before the rise in food prices start being noticed by the so called middle class, the poor are noticing it already. Food banks are running low nationwide.
 

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It is only a matter of time before the rise in food prices start being noticed by the so called middle class, the poor are noticing it already. Food banks are running low nationwide.

The "poor" are noticing it? How so? The "poor" get free food. The "poor" in the US are obese. They are doing just fine.
 

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That could be because their health is too poor to wear it off.

I am not disputing that they are in poor health. They are. That is because they gorge on crap and sit on their butts all day. I doubt they will notice an increase in food prices.
 

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I am not disputing that they are in poor health. They are. That is because they gorge on crap and sit on their butts all day. I doubt they will notice an increase in food prices.

I'm afraid there is a lot of truth in what you say.................for the majority. I'll tell you a little secret, what you eat is only secondary AFTER getting at least an hour of strenuous exercise EVERY day. However if you are sedentary you have to be very careful about diet. It's much more fun just to exercise and buy yourself a little leeway.
 

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The "poor" are noticing it? How so? The "poor" get free food. The "poor" in the US are obese. They are doing just fine.

Of course some are obese, have you seen what the food banks hand out?

The report shows that hunger is increasing at an alarming rate in the United States, and our network is expanding its reach in response:
  • Feeding America is annually providing food to 37 million Americans, including 14 million children. This is an increase of 46 percent over 2006, when we were feeding 25 million Americans, including 9 million children, each year.
  • That means one in eight Americans now rely on Feeding America for food and groceries.


Hunger in America 2010: Hunger Study Statistics | Feeding America
 

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Of course some are obese, have you seen what the food banks hand out?


The report shows that hunger is increasing at an alarming rate in the United States, and our network is expanding its reach in response:
  • Feeding America is annually providing food to 37 million Americans, including 14 million children. This is an increase of 46 percent over 2006, when we were feeding 25 million Americans, including 9 million children, each year.
  • That means one in eight Americans now rely on Feeding America for food and groceries.

Hunger in America 2010: Hunger Study Statistics | Feeding America

Yep, I'm afraid maybe we've gone from giving people a hand up to giving people hand outs. It's gone from one extreme to the other, I can remember when we were ashamed to ask for help, now it's gotten to where it's an entitlement.
 

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Yep, I'm afraid maybe we've gone from giving people a hand up to giving people hand outs. It's gone from one extreme to the other, I can remember when we were ashamed to ask for help, now it's gotten to where it's an entitlement.


Having volunteered in a food bank and a soup kitchen I can assure you that you're dick.

Not really surprised at that though.
 

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Having volunteered in a food bank and a soup kitchen I can assure you that you're dick.

Not really surprised at that though.

That's your ignorant opinion- You'd do well to keep your f*****g mouth shut until you've experienced the other side.
 

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That's your ignorant opinion- You'd do well to keep your f*****g mouth shut until you've experienced the other side.

Other side of what?

Here's an example for you.

A single mother with two kids who lost her Husband to cancer came in at Christmas time for food and a care package with toys....the kids couldn't care less about the toys, they were more interested in the food and blankets we had to offer.

Lazy turds eh?
 

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Other side of what?

Here's an example for you.

A single mother with two kids who lost her Husband to cancer came in at Christmas time for food and a care package with toys....the kids couldn't care less about the toys, they were more interested in the food and blankets we had to offer.

Lazy turds eh?

Where did I say that? You should learn to f******g read, airhead. :roll:
 

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C'mon let's face the reality here. A healthy majority are just taking advantage of the system, full stop. Make them learn how to earn their keep like Ayn Rand would. I luvs her so much!
 

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Other side of what?

Here's an example for you.

A single mother with two kids who lost her Husband to cancer came in at Christmas time for food and a care package with toys....the kids couldn't care less about the toys, they were more interested in the food and blankets we had to offer.

Lazy turds eh?
They needed blankets because of cancer? What did they sleep with before the cancer? You gotta be able to bull**** better than that.