Why They All Seem To Hate US

gopher

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Well, it's not like the USA didn't invade Iraq, Afghanistan, or help dictators like Rios-Montt killed 200,000 Indigenous peoples, or that Washington DC didn't cause a myriad of other problems.
 

BaalsTears

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The Russians did blink. Then we cut a deal. JFK did set the goal for the moon launch.

The Democrat party of JFK and RFK is night and day to the Democrat Party of today.

The latter day Kennedy's rolled the waves of the post Vietnam Democrat Party and became very liberal. Not only that, they felt very much entitled and arrogant. They still do in my opnion.

Well I stand corrected.

Krushchev did blink and was subsequently deposed for it. America traded missiles in Turkey for Russian missiles in Cuba.

The entire Kennedy clan was/is a bunch of dilettantes. I know I should give JFK more credit, but I have hardened my heart towards all of those people.

Well, it's not like the USA didn't invade Iraq, Afghanistan, or help dictators like Rios-Montt killed 200,000 Indigenous peoples, or that Washington DC didn't cause a myriad of other problems.

What about China and Xinjiang? What about China and Tibet? What about Canada and its treatment of the Chinese? No one has clean hands.
 

Cliffy

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What about China and Xinjiang? What about China and Tibet? What about Canada and its treatment of the Chinese? No one has clean hands.
But Canadians like to live in their little Utopian fantasies about our superiority. We wear rose coloured glasses to avoid seeing the blood on our hands.
 

BaalsTears

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But Canadians like to live in their little Utopian fantasies about our superiority. We wear rose coloured glasses to avoid seeing the blood on our hands.

Memory is selective among all peoples imo. Maybe that's necessary to help people keep going. I don't know. The history of our species is written in blood.

I sometimes wonder about evolution and consciousness. I know that human consciousness has changed over the last five thousand years or so. But the blood on the hands thing never seems to change.
 

lone wolf

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What about China and Xinjiang? What about China and Tibet? What about Canada and its treatment of the Chinese? No one has clean hands.

Oh, we could go on all week this way. Which part about Canada's treatment of Chinese wasn't done exactly the same as your United States? You're right. No one has clean hands....
 

petros

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Page 147 of the 9-11 Comission will tell you why the attack happened. It wasn't because they hate freedom and democracy that's for sure.
 

cdn_bc_ca

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Why does so much of the world, particularly the Muslim world, hate the United States?

It all boils down to resources. If the Middle East did not have any oil, do you think the US would be so involved there?

Puppet governments do the bidding of the oil companies, not the people living there. Thus the hatred.

Oh, the other thing that pisses me off personally, is that the Americans, and by extension, some Canadians, think it is their right to force their western values on other nations. Sometimes, we need to just leave other people alone... and I think that will happen when the oil dries up over there.
 

Cannuck

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Oh, the other thing that pisses me off personally, is that the Americans, and by extension, some Canadians, think it is their right to force their western values on other nations. Sometimes, we need to just leave other people alone... and I think that will happen when the oil dries up over there.

Do you use the same philosophy if you see a mother or father beating a child with a stick? After all, to step in would be to "force your values" on the parent. What about intervening or calling for help when a rape is in progress?