Krauthammer Tells Inconvenient Truth About Egypt
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Now why would you say something so intensely stupid?
Trolling, or just force of habit?
Islam is a RELIGION, not a RACE.....perhaps you could buy a dictionary and try to figure out the difference.
The future all depends and that is all we know. If they elect a radical government that installs an
Islamic Government that is their right. The truth is, rights come with responsibilities and of course
consequences. To start with if the radicals take over, America should cut off all aid programs and
that would include humanitarian aid, food medicine and everything else.
It is true America backed a dictatorship and they have to take the hit for that responsibility comes
in many disguises. Cool heads must prevail and we must be careful about going on or fostering
speculation.
Islamic Government that is their right. The truth is, rights come with responsibilities and of course
consequences. To start with if the radicals take over, America should cut off all aid programs and
that would include humanitarian aid, food medicine and everything else.
It is true America backed a dictatorship and they have to take the hit for that responsibility comes
in many disguises. Cool heads must prevail and we must be careful about going on or fostering
speculation.
gerryh:
That's not how I interpreted US calls for an "orderly transition to a democracy". The US sided with the dictator in Iran and this time they sided with the people... mind you the did side with the dictator for 30 years, before 2 weeks ago....
My dislike for Mubarak also predates the current fad and I agree... Things can get much worse for Israel,. Egypt isn't the real threat to Israel. Sooner or later Saudi Arabia's dictatorship will fall and I doubt that transition will lead to a secular democracy....
Let's see....the guy prints a set of cartoons that should have been printed by every media outlet in the western world......for two reasons, the first being that the cartoons were news, the very foundation of a world-wide furor, and secondly, because the free western media should wave the flag of freedom of speech proudly, as it was hard won in our society...instead, they stood quaking with fear, their knees knocking, while they claimed they were being "responsible" for collapsing in the face of threats by a bunch of medieval cultists.
So, not Levant.....he had the cojones to live up to his real responsibilities, and printed the cartoons.......and was dragged before a Kangaroo Court by one of the afore mentioned psychos, with the fll collusion of the gov'ts of Alberta and Canada, and winds up spending $100,000 in his own defense....
But he is the bigot.
Sometimes being a bigot is only good sense.
It's amazing how fast the Left dismesses what Krauthammer has to say without giving it single thought..
Basically, what the Americans did in Egypt was replaced the USSR..........and paid off the Egyptian gov't to be on our side, and to maintain peace with Israel, thus stabilizing the entire ME.........
They could have allied with Israel, I suppose, and gone for regime change.........actually their resistance to that exact tactic in 1956 killed the attack on Egypt by France, Great Britain, and Israel......
You guys need to make up your minds.........regime change or no, peace or no, interference or no........I'm all for "death to tyrants" and a muscular promotion of western values.......
And you?
Basically, what the Americans did in Egypt was replaced the USSR..........and paid off the Egyptian gov't to be on our side, and to maintain peace with Israel, thus stabilizing the entire ME.........
They could have allied with Israel, I suppose, and gone for regime change.........actually their resistance to that exact tactic in 1956 killed the attack on Egypt by France, Great Britain, and Israel......
You guys need to make up your minds.........regime change or no, peace or no, interference or no........I'm all for "death to tyrants" and a muscular promotion of western values.......
And you?
Krauthammer is full of sh*t and whoever believes him as well. The Brotherhood is a tiny minority cult whereas Khomeini represented the majority of Iran's population. We have discussed this enough times on the forum but the pro war hysterics will always post the same debunked nonsense until Kingdom come.
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''Islam is a Religion of War, the Prophet was a war monger, Islam was spread throughout the Arab Peninsula by war and murder........''
More people have been killed in the name of the Christian Bible than for any other reason in history.
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''Islam is a Religion of War, the Prophet was a war monger, Islam was spread throughout the Arab Peninsula by war and murder........''
More people have been killed in the name of the Christian Bible than for any other reason in history.
Really? That's kinda conflicting isn't it? You want to kill the tyrants installed and propped up by western countries? What western values is it you want to promote?
ROFLMFAO.... that's not a western value..... just look at colpy and the rest of his right wing cohorts.
''I'm all for "death to tyrants" and a muscular promotion of western values......''
Gee, I don't recall you feeling that way towards Islam Karimov, Rios-Montt, or Suharto.
Gee, I don't recall you feeling that way towards Islam Karimov, Rios-Montt, or Suharto.
Did you see Western, Eastern, right, left, innie, outie, Martian or anything specified?
Yup. western backed tyranny is better than eastern backed tyranny for some strange reason in the eyes of right wing nuts. Unbelievable how lopsided people can think. Millions must suffer to let Israel have the "peace" it needs to oppress the Palestinian people. The Muslim Brotherhood exists because of western interference in the Middle East for the past hundred years or so and they are the bad guys. Yup, Earth really is the insane asylum of the Universe.
Absolute, unmitigated horse****.
not even close.
Communism killed 100 million in the twentieth century, that outdoes any religion by several times.
Islam is murdering dozens per day. Some days hundreds. This has been going on for decades, Islamic wars for 1300 years.
How about thinking before you post something you pulled out of your arse?
Now, where did any of you idiots (and you know who you are) see me write in favour of establishing a western-backed tyranny?
Let me answer for you....you didn't.
It was Ann Coulter that said Liberals don't read books....maybe it is because they have a problem with reading comprehension.
How many millions have died at the hands of US backed tyrants? How many have died because of US lead wars? How many have died because the West thinks it has the right to take whatever they want to prop up their decadent society and protect US interests in third world countries? The US and Western societies are dependent on their war machines. Our economies depend on war and if we are not directly involved in killing people, we set about to foment war through interference in the internal affairs of sovereign nations. That we can have our large screen TV's, ATVs, snowmobiles, motorcycles, ride on lawnmowers, etc, etc, the rest of the world has to die and suffer, endure child slavery and no end to poverty, starvation and suffering. Just so you can lead your decadent lifestyle, millions of people and wild species must dies or go extinct. Sorry, but western values are a joke (kinda like Coulter and Beck). Our freedom comes at a great cost to the rest of the world and you sit comfortably behind your computer and condemn them for being pissed off at us. Yup, this is an insane asylum.
Krauthammer Tells Inconvenient Truth About Egypt and Muslim Brotherhood Media are Ignoring
NewsBusters.org
February 12, 2011
Excerpt:
Most of the media were predictably jubilant and giddy on Friday when it was announced that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak was stepping down.
Acting as the voice of reason was syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer who on PBS's "Inside Washington" spoke some inconvenient truths about the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt's similarities to pre-Islamic Revolution Iran that America's press have been dishonestly downplaying for weeks.
Most of the media were predictably jubilant and giddy on Friday when it was announced that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak was stepping down.
Acting as the voice of reason was syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer who on PBS's "Inside Washington" spoke some inconvenient truths about the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt's similarities to pre-Islamic Revolution Iran that America's press.
Krauthammer Tells Inconvenient Truth About Egypt and Muslim Brotherhood Media are Ignoring | NewsBusters.org
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Why is it that everytime I head someone used the term "inconvenient truth" I think of Al Gore, Global Warming and thus, "baseless fearmongering lies?"
And on that Al Gore/Global Warming comment, I also see that in the original article, they use Global Warming as a bash-item to suit their argument, but don't mind using the well known term that goes with it, "inconvenient truth" to further their agenda...... how ironic.
Here, I'll tell you an actual TRUTH:
The only reason why the Right and their propaganda machines are clinging to this whole Islamic Booga Booga story is because it's Isreal's Islamic Booga Booga story..... and we all know how far up Israel's ass the Right is..... after all, if the Right ever had their way, they'd turn the US and every other nation into Israel. And isolated, racist nation where everybody must be drafted and serve in the military, and all their neighbors are their enemies.
This goof ball (the writer) and his web site claim that main stream media is ignoring the possible risk of Egypt turning into an Islamic state, yet this same idiot, Israel and those who support them continue to ignore the fact that Egyptians have been ruled by a ruthless dictator for 30 years, who's been called the best friend of the US and Israel for so long now, all because he does a few favors for those nations...... forget the fact that the Right have continually ignored these people have had their human rights trampled on for 30+ years..... their dictator in power did things for them and now they might lose a shoe lacky.
Suppose this Muslim Brotherhood does get into power..... That's democracy for ya.
Let's take a deeper look into what was said in the above link shall we?
AKA: Let's further meddle in the affairs of another soverign nation so that our personal interests are met and served, regardless of what the people of Egypt want.
That's sounds familiar...... and does that really sound "Democratic" to any of you?
If it does, then you not only have to read up on what Democracy is, but you should also look up your history as well.
They link all of this to what happened in Iran.
Tell me, what really happened in Iran?
That way I hear is, the US meddled in that nation's personal affairs and pissed a lot of people off, and thus, voted in a government they could trust would serve their nation and not another...... thus you get Iran as an Islamic State.
Now these dumbasses are suggesting to meddle in the affairs of Egypt.......
..... It doesn't take a friggin rocket sceintist to realize what that will do.
They would end up creating the sole thing they're fearmongering about.
These idiots don't think the Egyptian people are strong enough, let along smart enough to "Do the Right Thing" so someone else...... some other nation should jump in and do it for them.
Sounds like your typical Republican Mentality to me...... the same mentality George Bush used throughout his reign. Him and his goons didn't think the US public was smart enough to do the right thing, so he instead slapped down the Patriot Act, ignored the majority of the populations' own wishes..... they didn't even think their allies were smart enough to see the BS he and his goons were pulling off.
I'm not a huge fan of Jean Chretien, but everybody should applaud his decision and reasons for not going into Iraq, because like myself, he didn't see any credible evidence to head off to Iraq and send out troops to die in a pointless war...... and if Harper was PM at the time, he would have sent us there, where we'd probably still be today.
That's your Conservative/Republican mentality...... the population is too stupid to do the right thing (or the thing we want them to) so we should do it for them..... we should make the decisions for them.
Is there a risk that the Muslim Brotherhood might get into power in Egypt?
Perhaps..... but those are the risks involved with Democracy in the first place...... and if you can't handle those risks, you don't deserve to live in a Democracy, period.
Sorry, I gave it more thought then it's worth..... maybe you should give it some thought.
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But... but.... Those crazy Muslims are a murderous bunch of fanatics! Wouldn't it be much preferable to have Egyptians murdered and oppressed by Christians fanatics or US backed fanatics, Muslim or otherwise?
It seems the Right are getting more twisted in their thinking all the time.
It seems the Right are getting more twisted in their thinking all the time.
And 78 Million -/+ people died in the span of just 6 years during WWII..... 100 Million dead in the span of 100 years is a drop in the pale by comparison, as that number was almost reached in less then a decade.
And add up all those killed in the name of the Christian God over the last 2000+ years. People claimed as witches and wizards, those who wouldn't accept Christianity and were tortured and killed because they were possessed by the devil, the Crusades, Homosexuals & other minorities, couples who married outside of their own race, couples who cheated on their spouses, couples who had sex and refused to marry, Women who wouldn't accept their role in society, the list goes on and on......
Oh but if I remember correctly, the counter-argument for all of that is "Oh well Christianity hasn't done any of that for a long time, so those don't count anymore."
Sorry, but if you're going to try and tally up all of what Islam did for the last 1300 years, you have to do the same for Christianity for the last 2000+ years, and when they're put side by side, the picture doesn't look so pretty does it?
That says a lot about a so-called peaceful religion....... so please, don't give me that crap about how horrible Muslims are compared to Christians, because they ain't got sh*t on Christianity's brutality.
Hell, Christians invented most of the methods of torture we know of today and throughout history.
That works both ways, m'dear.
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