Egypt on the Verge of Collapse?

ironsides

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Ironically ironsides made this comment about Iran today:

Quote: Originally Posted by ironsides
Iran is on the verge of destroying itself, to many Iranians are fed up with this all controlling government.
I responded with this comment about Egypt:

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...farting-around-iran-nukes-37.html#post1373983

I just checked the news and one of the big stories today are the anti-government riots in Egypt.

A dam breaking in Egypt - CSMonitor.com
You hit that one right on the head, didn't think it would happen so quickly. Pat on the head. :)
 

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Ugh,
where is Obama? He should be on the television strongly pushing democracy to Egyptians. I guess it's because the West doesn't want to alienate their former puppets on the run...
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Ugh,
where is Obama? He should be on the television strongly pushing democracy to Egyptians. I guess it's because the West doesn't want to alienate their former puppets on the run...

Be careful what you wish, if the zealots in that region get their way you will see a war that will make Afghanistan look like a heated argument.
 

earth_as_one

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We should know within a few hours if the Mubarak government will collapse.

Today's protests appear significantly bigger and more widespread then previous protests.

Egypt protests: ElBaradei held as thousands pour on to streets in biggest protests yet - Telegraph

Egypt's internet access is 90% shutdown, while mobile phone service is erratic.

ElBaradei, former head of the IAEA has returned to Egypt and offered to lead a caretaker government until democratic elections. Last reports are that he attended public prayer services at a shutdown mosque with about 2000 people and is now surrounded by riot police in an uneasy standoff.
Police pen Egypt's ElBaradei in protest area - Emirates24|7

The regime brought in thugs armed with baseball bats to back up the police and military. Hundreds of people arrested, reports of more deaths as some police have fired into crowds. Also some police have been arrested for refusing to obey live fire orders.

Recent video from Egypt
WARNING: PROTESTER SHOT
YouTube - Raw Video: Man Shot in Egypt Protest

BBC footage of the protests:
BBC News - Tear gas and rubber bullets fired in Egyptian riots

This video gives a good idea of the size of protests:
Video - Egypt police fire tear gas as rioting erupts in Cairo - National People in the News | Examiner.com

Tweets by al Jazeera reporters in Egypt
Friday protests liveblog | Al Jazeera Blogs

In some locations police lines are holding and crowds have been dispersed, only to reform somewhere else. In other locations, protesters have overrun police lines and some cities are now controlled by protesters. In these cities, police stations are now in the hands of protesters and many of the arrested have been set free.

Live video from Egypt:
Al Jazeera English - Live Streams - Watch Now - Al Jazeera English

Police have abandoned their positions in Suez. Protesters now control this key city.

It looks like momentum has shifted towards the protesters. Although police lines are holding firm in key areas of Cairo, they are loosing control pretty much everywhere else. Unless the military steps in, the protesters will likely isolate Cairo and shut down the country.

In Suez, a police van deliberately drove into a huge crowd, running over some protesters, which made the crowd turn violent and ugly. Now Suez is complete chaos as police appear to have taken up defensive positions, police vans are on fire and they appear to be in a desperate battle for their lives.

Meanwhile there is another huge battle being fought on a bridge in the middle of Cairo. The police seem only able to disperse the crowds temporarily, but then the crowd reforms and pushes the police back. The police reform their lines, fire a volley of tear gas and bullets, causing the crowd to disperse again.

The size of the protests continue to grow in size. The police seem to be holding that bridge in Cairo, but each wave is bigger than the previous.

Alexandria appears to be partially controlled by the protesters. The police appear to have taken defensive positions and are using live fire killing protesters. Protesters seem to have discovered a weakness in the police armored vans and are successfully setting them on fire when they try to disperse the crowd. When the police inside the burning van abandoned their burning vehicles, they were attacked by an angry mob. It looks like quite a few deaths on both sides in Alexandria.
 
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darkbeaver

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Be careful what you wish, if the zealots in that region get their way you will see a war that will make Afghanistan look like a heated argument.

We have already seen sixty years of war by the premier regional zealots, Israel. Perhaps the western butchery will not get repeated, but I'm not hopeful after listening to the deceitful scum in Tel Aviv all these years.
 

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Imo the events in Egypt will either result in a military coup or a popular revolution that will be coopted by the Muslim Brotherhood. If the Muslim Brotherhood coopts the revolution the regional winner will be the Iranian theocracy. The loser will be the citizens of much of the West who find their standard of living decline as the price of oil increases.

If the price of oil from the middle east either increases or becomes less available, America will be forced to turn to Canada for increased energy supplies. What choice will America have? Does Canada sell crude oil to anyone other than America? If so, it will be necessary to redirect the entire available export supply to the US.
 

darkbeaver

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The Muslim Brotherhood has already been co opted by Mosshad. The losers will be Israel and the international banking scum. Western standards of living are set to bottom anyway, you're fear mongering is pathetic begging for the consumers ear. He's got no money left, all gone to bonusus you know.
 

BaalsTears

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The Muslim Brotherhood has already been co opted by Mosshad. The losers will be Israel and the international banking scum. Western standards of living are set to bottom anyway, you're fear mongering is pathetic begging for the consumers ear. He's got no money left, all gone to bonusus you know.

You said: "The Muslim Brotherhood has already been co opted by Mosshad." This is where I get to ask you for proof of the truth of the matter you have asserted. Please provide probative evidence so that we can continue our discussion. Thank you.
 

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The Muslim Brotherhood has already been co opted by Mosshad. The losers will be Israel and the international banking scum. Western standards of living are set to bottom anyway, you're fear mongering is pathetic begging for the consumers ear. He's got no money left, all gone to bonusus you know.

Are you mentally retarded?
 

ironsides

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The Muslim Brotherhood has already been co opted by Mosshad. The losers will be Israel and the international banking scum. Western standards of living are set to bottom anyway, you're fear mongering is pathetic begging for the consumers ear. He's got no money left, all gone to bonusus you know.
Your solution will only end in a war (involving us againt them) that will only end with the destruction of the Mid-East as we know it. Israel will however survive.
 

Johnny Utah

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BBC: Egyptian Tanks Surround US, UK Embassies
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Oh ****! 8O

The Muslim Brotherhood has already been co opted by Mosshad. The losers will be Israel and the international banking scum. Western standards of living are set to bottom anyway, you're fear mongering is pathetic begging for the consumers ear. He's got no money left, all gone to bonusus you know.
There can't be a Middle East thread without an Anti-Israeli post.. :roll:
 

petros

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In other words they want the status quo but the US to support their democracy instead of supporting their dictatorship?